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Re: Bodeens vehicle advice
« Reply #60 on: September 20, 2022, 04:42:43 PM »
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  • I'm coming at this conversation from left field since I haven't read the whole thing, but there was another car buying advice thread on here a while ago (from SimpleMan, I believe), and a lot of people (including me) suggested getting a Toyota or Honda from the first decade of this century. Corolla, Civic, Camry, or Accord. Those things will run forever, so age is irrelevant, and so is mileage. And most of the value has long since depreciated, so they should be available for a couple grand at the most.

    I have a feeling this is not going to be helpful to you :laugh1:

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    Re: Bodeens vehicle advice
    « Reply #61 on: September 20, 2022, 04:44:15 PM »
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  • I'm coming at this conversation from left field since I haven't read the whole thing, but there was another car buying advice thread on here a while ago (from SimpleMan, I believe), and a lot of people (including me) suggested getting a Toyota or Honda from the first decade of this century. Corolla, Civic, Camry, or Accord. Those things will run forever, so age is irrelevant, and so is mileage. And most of the value has long since depreciated, so they should be available for a couple grand at the most.

    I have a feeling this is not going to be helpful to you :laugh1:
    Honda and Toyota are the way to go
    "Be not therefore solicitous for tomorrow; for the morrow will be solicitous for itself. Sufficient for the day is the evil thereof." [Matt. 6:34]

    "In all thy works remember thy last end, and thou shalt never sin." [Ecclus. 7:40]

    "A holy man continueth in wisdom as the sun: but a fool is changed as the moon." [Ecclus. 27:12]


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    Re: Bodeens vehicle advice
    « Reply #62 on: September 20, 2022, 07:57:25 PM »
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  • …they should be available for a couple grand at the most.…

    Should be, but are not:

    Honda 2000-2010 a random sample




    • 2010 Honda Fit

      Sport 4dr Hatchback


      $11,995
      great price
      $1,469 below market
      81,070 miles
      No accidents, 1 Owner, Personal use only
      4cyl Automatic
      AutoNation USA Phoenix (14 mi away)
      Home delivery*

      Tire Pressure Warnin...
      USB Inputs
      Alarm
      Trip Computer
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      2009 Honda Civic EX-L Coupe
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      2009 Honda Civic
      EX-L Coupe


      $10,900
      great price
      $1,181 below market
      111,592 miles
      No accidents, 2 Owners, Personal use only
      4cyl Automatic
      Camelback Volkswagen (19 mi away)

      Heated seats
      Leather Seats
      Sunroof/Moonroof
      Tire Pressure Warnin...
      USB Inputs
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    • 2000 Honda S2000 Base Convertible















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      2000 Honda S2000
      Base Convertible


      $30,452
      fair price
      $317 below market
      49,534 miles
      No accidents, 1 Owner, Personal use only
      AutoNation USA Phoenix (14 mi away)
      Home delivery*

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    • 2010 Honda CR-V EX















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      2010 Honda CR-V
      EX 4dr SUV


      $9,995
      fair price
      $565 below market
      159,672 miles
      No accidents, 1 Owner, Personal use only
      4cyl Automatic
      Good Car Company (32 mi away)

      Sunroof/Moonroof
      Tire Pressure Warnin...
      Alarm
      Trip Computer
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      2007 Honda Civic LX


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      2007 Honda Civic
      LX Sedan


      $10,595
      fair price
      $838 below market
      67,523 miles
      No accidents, 1 Owner, Personal use only
      4cyl Automatic
      AutoNation USA Phoenix Avondale (12 mi away)

      Rear Bench Seats
      Audio and cruise con...
      Aux Audio Inputs
      Fold Flat Rear Seats
      Alarm
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    • 2010 Honda Accord LX-P














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      2010 Honda Accord
      LX-P Sedan


      $11,995
      good price
      $918 below market
      98,590 miles
      No accidents, 2 Owners, Personal use only
      4cyl Automatic
      Rocky's Auto Credit Mesa (32 mi away)

      Power Driver Seat
      Tire Pressure Warnin...
      Rear Bench Seats
      Stability Control
      Aux Audio Inputs
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    • 2009 Honda CR-V LX











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      2009 Honda CR-V
      LX 4dr SUV


      $11,995
      fair price
      $819 below market
      100,076 miles
      No accidents, 1 Owner, Corporate fleet vehicle
      4cyl Automatic
      Brown & Brown Wholesale (33 mi away)

      AWD/4WD
      Tire Pressure Warnin...
      Trip Computer
      Rear Bench Seats
      Stability Control
      +more
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    • 2010 Honda Accord LX-P















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      2010 Honda Accord
      LX-P Sedan


      $16,590
      fair price
      $784 above market
      40,038 miles
      No accidents, 3 Owners, Personal use only
      4cyl Automatic
      Carvana - Phoenix (18 mi away)
      Free home delivery*

      Power Driver Seat
      Tire Pressure Warnin...
      Rear Bench Seats
      Stability Control
      Aux Audio Inputs
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    • New Listing


      2007 Honda CR-V LX








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      2007 Honda CR-V
      LX 4dr SUV


      $9,977
      good price
      $425 below market
      110,300 miles
      No accidents, 3 Owners, Personal use only
      4cyl Automatic
      Value Price Auto (14 mi away)

      Tire Pressure Warnin...
      Rear Bench Seats
      Stability Control
      Aux Audio Inputs
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    • 2009 Honda Accord LX-P















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      2009 Honda Accord
      LX-P Sedan


      $15,990
      44,745 miles
      No accidents, 1 Owner, Personal use only
      4cyl Automatic
      Carvana - Phoenix (18 mi away)
      Free home delivery*

      Power Driver Seat
      Tire Pressure Warnin...
      Rear Bench Seats
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    • 2007 Honda Element EX















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      2007 Honda Element
      EX 4dr SUV


      $10,495
      good price
      $335 below market
      131,477 miles
      1 Accident, 2 Owners, Personal use only
      4cyl Automatic
      Reed Motors Pre-Owned Auto Sales (20 mi away)

      Tire Pressure Warnin...
      Power Liftgate/Trunk
      Rear Bench Seats
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    • 2010 Honda Accord EX







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      2010 Honda Accord
      EX Sedan


      $13,995
      fair price
      $636 above market
      95,272 miles
      No accidents, 2 Owners, Corporate fleet vehicle
      4cyl Automatic
      Cactus Jack's Glendale (12 mi away)

      Sunroof/Moonroof
      Power Driver Seat
      Tire Pressure Warnin...
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    • 2009 Honda Accord EX-L V-6

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      2009 Honda Accord
      EX-L V-6


      $14,995
      73,365 miles
      No accidents, 2 Owners, Personal use only
      Cactus Jack's Avondale (12 mi away)

      Heated seats
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      Power Driver Seat
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    • 2010 Honda Fit Sport Hatchback















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      2010 Honda Fit
      Sport 4dr Hatchback


      $15,990
      51,369 miles
      No accidents, 2 Owners, Personal use only
      4cyl Automatic
      Carvana - Phoenix (18 mi away)
      Free home delivery*

      Tire Pressure Warnin...
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    • 2001 Honda S2000 Base Convertible








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      2001 Honda S2000
      Base Convertible


      $22,550
      fair price
      $684 below market
      102,412 miles
      1 Accident, 2 Owners, Personal use only
      4cyl Manual
      Arrowhead BMW (7 mi away)

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    Re: Bodeens vehicle advice
    « Reply #63 on: September 20, 2022, 08:44:53 PM »
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  • Maybe last spring you could get a decent Honda for that price, I know I had my eye on an '06 Accord EX V6 for $3k before I got my Pilot. Now you can't find a comparable Accord for under $5k.
    "Be not therefore solicitous for tomorrow; for the morrow will be solicitous for itself. Sufficient for the day is the evil thereof." [Matt. 6:34]

    "In all thy works remember thy last end, and thou shalt never sin." [Ecclus. 7:40]

    "A holy man continueth in wisdom as the sun: but a fool is changed as the moon." [Ecclus. 27:12]

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    Re: Bodeens vehicle advice
    « Reply #64 on: September 20, 2022, 10:07:43 PM »
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  • I don't know where you're getting these crazy ads. I just typed similar vehicles into my local Craigslist's search engine and got equivalent cars for about half the price these things are going for.

    Here's a 2009 Accord with 85k for $8600. Here's a 2004 Accord with 131k for $5900. Here's a 2004 Civic for $3500. The last one has 246k but as I said, these things last forever so that isn't a huge deal. Here's a great 2002 Camry with only 132k for only $3600.

    I found this with only a few minutes' search, but similar vehicles are available in my area in great abundance at similar prices. If I were in the market for a car, I'd look pretty hard at any one of those. They'll all be good for at least another decade and will all go over 300k if you change the fluids at the proper intervals.


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    Re: Bodeens vehicle advice
    « Reply #65 on: September 20, 2022, 10:18:13 PM »
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  • Honda and Toyota are the way to go

    For the most part, but both of these have had some pretty significant quality issues the past 7-8 years or so, including some safety recalls.

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    Re: Bodeens vehicle advice
    « Reply #66 on: September 20, 2022, 10:20:18 PM »
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  • Yes, we can finance it for 28k and some change. That's about 8k more than I want to spend, especially finance, for our next vehicle. And I'd rather get something that may be older, but we can buy outright, especially since my wife doesn't really drive a lot anymore. So, I have been thinking about that. But, since we close on selling our house next week, and we can pay off virtually all of our debt including my Pilot (praise God!); our credit wouldn't yet be where it needs to be for us to get a good rate by November.

    And when we assume the mortgage for her parent's home (they have about $100k left on it at 3-3.5% interest, much better than the 5.5-6.5% right now), that'll be an increase of about $500/month. So I don't really want to be paying another $400-500 for this Jeep on top of that. When I still had by Silverado lease the monthly payment to finance was almost $500/month, which was more than the lease payment I originally had.

    At 28K, depending on the year and the mileage, you might be able to purchase it for that and then sell it for a pretty significant profit.

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    Re: Bodeens vehicle advice
    « Reply #67 on: September 20, 2022, 11:50:37 PM »
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  • At 28K, depending on the year and the mileage, you might be able to purchase it for that and then sell it for a pretty significant profit.
    That is the other possibility, for sure.
    "Be not therefore solicitous for tomorrow; for the morrow will be solicitous for itself. Sufficient for the day is the evil thereof." [Matt. 6:34]

    "In all thy works remember thy last end, and thou shalt never sin." [Ecclus. 7:40]

    "A holy man continueth in wisdom as the sun: but a fool is changed as the moon." [Ecclus. 27:12]


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    Re: Bodeens vehicle advice
    « Reply #68 on: September 21, 2022, 03:55:58 AM »
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  • I don't know where you're getting these crazy ads. …

    Random sample from edmunds.com for Phoenix.



     2009 Accord with 85k for $8600. … 2004 Accord with 131k for $5900.


    To my thinking neither $8600 nor $5900 are "a couple of grand."

    I also ask myself, "In this market, why would someone unload a '300,000 mile car'?"


    2004 Civic for $3500. The last one has 246k but as I said, these things last forever so that isn't a huge deal. Here's a great 2002 Camry with only 132k for only $3600.…

    Closer to "a couple of grand," but 246,000 miles???

    We had a 2000 Camry that died (head gasket, repair estimate from reliable independent mechanic was $3500 in 2014 Jєωbux) at 120,000 odometer miles, scrupulously maintained, and no hard driving.

    I'm not saying there is not a needle in the haystack, only that I burned out on the car shopping process until the spirit moves me again.

    It's possible that our inflation rate in Phoenix (currently the highest in the nation) may be coloring our local prices. I also looked out-of-state, but that added to the headache and burn-out.

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    Re: Bodeens vehicle advice
    « Reply #69 on: September 21, 2022, 08:40:48 AM »
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  • That is the other possibility, for sure.

    I actually have a Jeep that's worth several thousand more than what I paid for it about 2 years ago.  I could sell it ... but then I'd overpay for something else to replace it.

    Interestingly, I had a 2000 Jeep Wrangler that I bought new that year.  After we were expecting our third child (in 2005), I sold it (to replace it with a van) and got about $10,000 for it.  I looked the other day, and the exact same 2000 Jeep Wrangler Sahara (with about 175K miles on it ... probably what I would have put on it over the years) is currently selling for about $10,000-$11,000, so the same price as what I solid it for in 2005.  Except that back then it was only 5 years old and had about 30,000 miles on it.  That says a lot about inflation.

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    Re: Bodeens vehicle advice
    « Reply #70 on: September 21, 2022, 11:00:59 AM »
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  • I actually have a Jeep that's worth several thousand more than what I paid for it about 2 years ago.  I could sell it ... but then I'd overpay for something else to replace it.

    Yes, that's the rub. Sell-at-a-profit (a.k.a. drive-for-free) only works if you are in a situation like DigitalLogos where he doesn't need to replace the car.



    …That says a lot about inflation.

    (((The Economic Cycle))) of inflation/ deflation boom/bust has been a key tool used to loot all nations. That is why the US$ only has about 3% of its buying power compared to before (((the Fed))) and IRS tax-farming for the JMFs.