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Title: Blood of St. Januarius Fails to Liquify
Post by: ihsv on December 19, 2016, 08:16:40 PM
A 627-year-old 'blood miracle' failed to occur, heralding disaster for 2017 (http://www.businessinsider.com/blood-of-san-gennaro-fails-to-liquefy-meaning-2017-could-be-a-disaster-2016-12)

If you thought 2016 was bad, you might want to gird yourself for an even worse 2017.

The dried blood of Saint Januarius failed to liquefy in a ceremony in Naples, Italy, on Saturday, according to a report in Italy's La Stampa, heralding disaster for next year.

Monsignor Vincenzo De Gregorio, the abbot of the chapel, said: "We must not think about disasters and calamities. We are men of faith, and we must continue to pray."

The ceremony of the blood of Saint Januarius, or San Gennaro, is performed several times a year. The blood is kept in special ampules and liquifies during the ceremony.

San Gennaro blood
The archbishop of Naples, Cardinal Crescenzio Sepe, with a flask believed to contain drops of liquefied blood of San Gennaro at Italy's Naples Cathedral in 2013.REUTERS/Ciro De Luca/Files
If you thought 2016 was bad, you might want to gird yourself for an even worse 2017.

The dried blood of Saint Januarius failed to liquefy in a ceremony in Naples, Italy, on Saturday, according to a report in Italy's La Stampa, heralding disaster for next year.

Monsignor Vincenzo De Gregorio, the abbot of the chapel, said: "We must not think about disasters and calamities. We are men of faith, and we must continue to pray."

The ceremony of the blood of Saint Januarius, or San Gennaro, is performed several times a year. The blood is kept in special ampules and liquifies during the ceremony.

The miracle has been regularly recorded since 1389. San Gennaro was bishop of Naples in the third century and was beheaded in the persecution of early Christians by Roman Emperor Diocletian, who killed about 3,500 Christians.

If the miracle of liquefaction fails to occur, it can herald disaster for the coming months and years.

The blood failed to become liquid in 1939, the year in which World War II started, and in 1980, the year of the Irpinia earthquake, according to the Stampa report.

2016 has been bad enough. Both the US and the UK have had a year of political turmoil, while a cινιℓ ωαr in Syria has destroyed much of the city of Aleppo and resulted in indiscriminate killing.
Title: Blood of St. Januarius Fails to Liquify
Post by: Neil Obstat on December 19, 2016, 08:45:08 PM
Ironic:

The feast day of St. Januarius is in September, the 19th.

Why not have a feast day in January for St. Januarius?

Title: Blood of St. Januarius Fails to Liquify
Post by: Maximus33 on December 19, 2016, 08:59:39 PM
Its coming!!!
Title: Blood of St. Januarius Fails to Liquify
Post by: St Ignatius on December 19, 2016, 09:01:01 PM
Quote from: Neil Obstat
Ironic:

The feast day of St. Januarius is in September, the 19th.

Why not have a feast day in January for St. Januarius?

:laugh1: What you drinking tonight, I want some...
Title: Blood of St. Januarius Fails to Liquify
Post by: mw2016 on December 19, 2016, 09:07:24 PM
Quote from: St Ignatius
Quote from: Neil Obstat
Ironic:

The feast day of St. Januarius is in September, the 19th.

Why not have a feast day in January for St. Januarius?

:laugh1: What you drinking tonight, I want some...


Those Greek names are so confusing...


 :jester:
Title: Blood of St. Januarius Fails to Liquify
Post by: St Ignatius on December 19, 2016, 09:19:11 PM
Quote from: ihsv
The blood failed to become liquid in 1939, the year in which World War II started, and in 1980, the year of the Irpinia earthquake, according to the Stampa report.
What is it with this event that may have caused this to occur when only a few thousand perished? In 2010, there was a earthquake that killed over 100,000 people in Haiti, did the Miracle take place then?
Title: Blood of St. Januarius Fails to Liquify
Post by: Neil Obstat on December 19, 2016, 09:42:48 PM
Quote from: St Ignatius
Quote from: Neil Obstat
Ironic:

The feast day of St. Januarius is in September, the 19th.

Why not have a feast day in January for St. Januarius?

:laugh1: What you drinking tonight, I want some...

Guinness Extra Stout and Jegermeister chaser.  Both chilled.  Yum.

(https://s3-media3.fl.yelpcdn.com/bphoto/JWAVsQlfzZ0oHTJPQYqdNg/o.jpg)

Title: Blood of St. Januarius Fails to Liquify
Post by: St Ignatius on December 19, 2016, 09:57:24 PM
Quote from: Neil Obstat
Quote from: St Ignatius
Quote from: Neil Obstat
Ironic:

The feast day of St. Januarius is in September, the 19th.

Why not have a feast day in January for St. Januarius?

:laugh1: What you drinking tonight, I want some...

Guinness Extra Stout and Jegermeister chaser.  Both chilled.  Yum.

(https://s3-media3.fl.yelpcdn.com/bphoto/JWAVsQlfzZ0oHTJPQYqdNg/o.jpg)

Would love to join you, but would it be okay if I chased the Jeger with the Stout?

I know, that might be too original.   :cheers:
Title: Blood of St. Januarius Fails to Liquify
Post by: Croix de Fer on December 19, 2016, 10:10:07 PM
Quote from: St Ignatius
What is it with this event that may have caused this to occur when only a few thousand perished? In 2010, there was a earthquake that killed over 100,000 people in Haiti, did the Miracle take place then?


Haitians aren't Catholic. They're a Satanic, syncretized hybrid of voodoo and novus ordoism. This is why they're cursed. The St. Januarius warning doesn't apply to them. It applies to the last remnants of Christendom in Europe and maybe other parts of the world.

By the way, more than 80 million people died in WWII, not "only a few thousand perished". The article states that the blood failed to liquefy in 1939, the same year the war broke out.
Title: Blood of St. Januarius Fails to Liquify
Post by: Incredulous on December 20, 2016, 08:54:02 AM

Haitians aren't Catholic. They're a Satanic, syncretized hybrid of voodoo and novus ordoism. This is why they're cursed. The St. Januarius warning doesn't apply to them. It applies to the last remnants of Christendom in Europe and maybe other parts of the world.

By the way, more than 80 million people died in WWII, not "only a few thousand perished". The article states that the blood failed to liquefy in 1939, the same year the war broke out. [/quote]


Yes, this is another key piece of evidence pointing to a 2017 conflagration not just for Naples, but the whole world.  
Title: Blood of St. Januarius Fails to Liquify
Post by: RomanCatholic1953 on December 20, 2016, 09:22:00 AM
From Novus Ordo Watch

Italians Alarmed as St. Januarius' Blood Fails to Liquefy historically Portending
Impending Disaster:

http://novusordowatch.org/2016/12/not-this-time-saint-januarius-blood-fails-to-liquefy/
Title: Blood of St. Januarius Fails to Liquify
Post by: Last Tradhican on December 20, 2016, 05:05:37 PM
Quote from: ihsv
A 627-year-old 'blood miracle' failed to occur, heralding disaster for 2017 (http://www.businessinsider.com/blood-of-san-gennaro-fails-to-liquefy-meaning-2017-could-be-a-disaster-2016-12)
If the miracle of liquefaction fails to occur, it can herald disaster for the coming months and years.

The blood failed to become liquid in 1939, the year in which World War II started, and in 1980, the year of the Irpinia earthquake, according to the Stampa report.


What is surprising to me is that the blood miracle continued to occur during the reign of the conciliar church. It should have stopped in like 1963.

Saint John Eudes  wrote in "The Priest, His Dignity and Obligations":

“The most evident mark of God’s anger and the most terrible castigation He can inflict upon the world are manifested when He permits His people to fall into the hands of clergy who are priests more in name than in deed, priests who practice the cruelty of ravening wolves rather than charity and affection of devoted shepherds ..."


Title: Blood of St. Januarius Fails to Liquify
Post by: AMDGJMJ on December 21, 2016, 07:52:57 AM
Quote from: Last Tradhican
Quote from: ihsv
A 627-year-old 'blood miracle' failed to occur, heralding disaster for 2017 (http://www.businessinsider.com/blood-of-san-gennaro-fails-to-liquefy-meaning-2017-could-be-a-disaster-2016-12)
If the miracle of liquefaction fails to occur, it can herald disaster for the coming months and years.

The blood failed to become liquid in 1939, the year in which World War II started, and in 1980, the year of the Irpinia earthquake, according to the Stampa report.


What is surprising to me is that the blood miracle continued to occur during the reign of the conciliar church. It should have stopped in like 1963.

Saint John Eudes  wrote in "The Priest, His Dignity and Obligations":

“The most evident mark of God’s anger and the most terrible castigation He can inflict upon the world are manifested when He permits His people to fall into the hands of clergy who are priests more in name than in deed, priests who practice the cruelty of ravening wolves rather than charity and affection of devoted shepherds ..."




Relics are still relics even if they are in the hands of apostates or heretics...

Yet, it would have made sense if the blood had failed to liquefy right before Vatican II.  :-)
Title: Blood of St. Januarius Fails to Liquify
Post by: Last Tradhican on December 21, 2016, 08:29:20 AM
Quote from: ascent
Quote from: St Ignatius
What is it with this event that may have caused this to occur when only a few thousand perished? In 2010, there was a earthquake that killed over 100,000 people in Haiti, did the Miracle take place then?


Haitians aren't Catholic. They're a Satanic, syncretized hybrid of voodoo and novus ordoism.




99% of over 1 billion baptized Catholics are Novus Ordo's or fallen away Novus Ordo.

Catholicism was in the Haitian constitution as its official state religion until 1987, when at the request of the conciliar church it was removed as the state religion.

Between 80 and 85% of Haitians are baptized Catholics.

Is the USA physically chastised for the daily 4000 abortions, the financing/spreading of population control throughout the world (more abortions and contraceptives), immorality, divorce, breakup of the family? It does not look like they have received any physical chastisement to me.

the USA has a population of  25% baptized Catholics. It is a Masonic government, with no religion.

God chastises his own to turn them back. God's worst chastisement is no chastisement, the people are left to do as they please, God has given them up to their desires, and even provided blind guides to confirm them in whatever sin they desire.(as is happening in the USA)
Title: Blood of St. Januarius Fails to Liquify
Post by: Miseremini on December 21, 2016, 09:28:05 AM
Is it coincidence that after the failed liquification the city of Naples is now concerned about the volcano it is sitting atop is rumbling?  That appears to be a pretty quick response to the non liquification.

http://blog.spiritdaily.com/news-links/quake-2
Title: Blood of St. Januarius Fails to Liquify
Post by: Marie Teresa on December 21, 2016, 10:21:13 AM
Quote from: Miseremini
Is it coincidence that after the failed liquification the city of Naples is now concerned about the volcano it is sitting atop is rumbling?  That appears to be a pretty quick response to the non liquification.  ...


https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/dec/20/volcano-near-naples-showing-signs-of-reawakening

https://www.rt.com/news/371144-italy-supervolcano-reawakens-naples/

Title: Blood of St. Januarius Fails to Liquify
Post by: snowball on December 21, 2016, 12:38:13 PM
I don't think there's anything truly supernatural to this, and
suspect that its designation as a reliable omen may not be
firmly established.
The earthquake in 1980 was major, however in 1973 when
the relic did not liquefy, and the proponents of this omen
point to the cholera outbreak, what they don't tell you is
that only 12 people died, 127 were infected but cured.
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0140673674932140

We can keep an eye on it, if something bad enough happens
in Naples this year, the legend will build further.
Title: Blood of St. Januarius Fails to Liquify
Post by: Marie Teresa on December 21, 2016, 01:59:31 PM
Also saw this (http://w.w.w.newadvent.org/cathen/08295a.htm):

"Rarely has the liquefaction failed to take place in the expositions of May or September, but in that of 16 December the mass remains solid more frequently than not."
Title: Blood of St. Januarius Fails to Liquify
Post by: Alexandria on December 21, 2016, 05:09:42 PM
Quote
God's worst chastisement is no chastisement, the people are left to do as they please, God has given them up to their desires, and even provided blind guides to confirm them in whatever sin they desire.(as is happening in the USA)

You are correct. The worst chastisement is leaving mankind to their own devices and letting them suffer the consequences of thinking they know better than God.  
Title: Blood of St. Januarius Fails to Liquify
Post by: Croix de Fer on December 22, 2016, 05:31:28 PM
Quote from: Last Tradhican
Quote from: ascent

Haitians aren't Catholic. They're a Satanic, syncretized hybrid of voodoo and novus ordoism.


Catholicism was in the Haitian constitution as its official state religion until 1987, when at the request of the conciliar church it was removed as the state religion.

Between 80 and 85% of Haitians are baptized Catholics.


But many of the Haitian people incorporate voodoo into their practicing of "Catholicism", which, ipso facto, doesn't make it Catholic.

The fact that they were baptized Catholic, and their own constitution made Catholicism the official state religion, but the Haitian people still practiced a Satanic voodoo mixed with ostensible "Catholicism" (Novus Ordoism), cursed them as a people. God initially blessed them with Catholicism and a government that instituted the true Faith as the official national religion, but the Haitian people still turned their backs on God and the Faith. They embraced Satan through spiritualism and rituals.

It's similar to the Jєωs abandoning God many times after He revealed Himself to them, but they continued to worship Moloch and Remphan and Baal and other false entities and make void sacrifices to them.

The US was never a Catholic nation, nor was it founded on Catholic principles per se, so its sin is not the same as apostasy.  

Try growing a brain and using critical thinking, you might understand the parallels of the Haitians and Jєωs, and how God tells us that more is expected from people to whom He has revealed Himself more, and if they abandon Him, they will be cursed more.


Quote from: Last Tradhican
Is the USA physically chastised for the daily 4000 abortions, the financing/spreading of population control throughout the world (more abortions and contraceptives), immorality, divorce, breakup of the family? It does not look like they have received any physical chastisement to me.


Another fallacy in thinking. Just because it hasn't happened yet doesn't mean it won't happen.


Title: Blood of St. Januarius Fails to Liquify
Post by: poche on December 22, 2016, 11:27:46 PM
Quote from: Maximus33
Its coming!!!


If we reform ourselves and try to come closer to Jesus God may relent and cancel or mitigate whatever calamity he intends to do.  
Title: Blood of St. Januarius Fails to Liquify
Post by: poche on December 28, 2016, 01:15:31 AM
A volcanic field off the shore of Sicily, near Naples, has become active, scientists report.

The Campi Flegrei volcano is much larger than nearby Mt. Vesuvius, the volcano whose eruption destroyed the ancient city of Pompei. An eruption of this “supervolcano” could endanger much of Europe.

News of the volcanic activity was made public less than a week after the blood of St. Januarius failed to liquefy in when displayed in the Naples cathedral. Sicilians have long believed that when the miracle of St. Januarius does not occur, disaster will follow for the people of Naples.

http://www.catholicculture.org/news/headlines/index.cfm?storyid=30281
Title: Blood of St. Januarius Fails to Liquify
Post by: AMDGJMJ on December 28, 2016, 07:10:38 AM
Quote from: poche
A volcanic field off the shore of Sicily, near Naples, has become active, scientists report.

The Campi Flegrei volcano is much larger than nearby Mt. Vesuvius, the volcano whose eruption destroyed the ancient city of Pompei. An eruption of this “supervolcano” could endanger much of Europe.

News of the volcanic activity was made public less than a week after the blood of St. Januarius failed to liquefy in when displayed in the Naples cathedral. Sicilians have long believed that when the miracle of St. Januarius does not occur, disaster will follow for the people of Naples.

http://www.catholicculture.org/news/headlines/index.cfm?storyid=30281


I remember hearing about a huge earthquake that took place some time back in Italy, and that Mt. Vesuvius erupted a few months after a similar earthquake...

I wonder what God is planning, but I guess time will tell..

 :pray: :pray: :pray: