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Offline Kazimierz

Re: Best Long Range Rifle Out of Box
« Reply #10 on: August 19, 2021, 03:15:31 PM »
Quote from: remy on August 19, 2021, 02:53:11 PM
No way, dude. The .270 and 30-06 retain more energy and velocity, and they're flatter shooting, than a .308 at longer distances including 1000 yards. Look it up on a ballistics chart.
The 308 has the advantage of being more plentiful, both in number and type. Most deer hunters I have come across like the 270 WIN. 
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Offline Yeti

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Re: Best Long Range Rifle Out of Box
« Reply #11 on: August 19, 2021, 03:36:55 PM »
Wow, zombie thread! To the main point, a thousand yards seems a little unrealistic. At that range, I think accuracy depends a lot more on the shooter than on the rifle itself. I'd certainly not go lighter than a .308, and even then I don't know how well it would do at that range. Not that I'm an expert by any means, but at that range you'd probably be better off with a .338 Lapua Magnum or a .50 BMG.
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By the way, what on earth do you want to shoot at such a range, anyway??!!
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Offline Kazimierz

Re: Best Long Range Rifle Out of Box
« Reply #12 on: August 19, 2021, 03:47:28 PM »
Quote from: Yeti on August 19, 2021, 03:36:55 PM
Wow, zombie thread! To the main point, a thousand yards seems a little unrealistic. At that range, I think accuracy depends a lot more on the shooter than on the rifle itself. I'd certainly not go lighter than a .308, and even then I don't know how well it would do at that range. Not that I'm an expert by any means, but at that range you'd probably be better off with a .338 Lapua Magnum or a .50 BMG.
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By the way, what on earth do you want to shoot at such a range, anyway??!!
It is hard enough where I be to find a 500 yard range let alone 1000. There may be a time where picking off offthemarxists will be required. I leave that to the long range experts.  :cowboy:
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Offline Mark 79

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Re: Best Long Range Rifle Out of Box
« Reply #13 on: August 19, 2021, 03:58:48 PM »
If the shooter is capable, the .308 is capable of 1,000 yds. As Kazamierz notes, the omnipresence of the .308 is an advantage—even over ballistically superior cartridges.

I don't like the new format at Sniper's Hide (firearms, optics, and accessories used to have separate threads), but, compared to gunbroker.com, there is a much higher percentage of excellent used equipment for sale here: https://www.snipershide.com/shooting/forums/firearms-buy-sell-trade/

While I wouldn't dream of buying a recently manufactured Remington 700, older 700's and any of the high end actions that share the Rem 700 footprint are good choices.

I think very highly of the Desert Tech SRSA2.  It has the advantage of being a bullpup configuration bolt-action with return-to-zero 20-second barrel conversions. You can shoot multiple cartridges without having to put a high-end optic on every single one, a huge cost saving if you shoot multiple cartridges from .223 to .338 Lapua. I have gotten ⅛ moa groups from a bench with the 6.5 Creedmoor barrel and our most perfect reloads.

http://deserttech.com/srs.php

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Offline Mark 79

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Re: Best Long Range Rifle Out of Box
« Reply #14 on: August 19, 2021, 04:04:51 PM »
Quote from: Yeti on August 19, 2021, 03:36:55 PM
...a thousand yards seems a little unrealistic..
Not at all unrealistic for anyone who has a grasp of basic rifle technique.
Though I mentioned ⅛ moa accuracy above, Bryan Litz, Berger Bullets' ballistician and a seasoned XLR competitor did a very interesting statistical analysis demonstrating that 1 moa is perfectly adequate for 1,000 yards. That article mellowed my pursuit of ever smaller groups.
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