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Offline Mark 79

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Re: Best Long Range Rifle Out of Box
« Reply #25 on: August 20, 2021, 09:46:31 AM »
...Tikka T3X
For some reason the Finns stick with a slow twist 1-11" barrel in .308, so it is marginal for stabilizing the heavier projectiles used for XLR, e.g., the Berger 185gn Juggernauts. IIRC The Ruger uses the better 1-10" twist, as do most US manufacturers.

Re: Best Long Range Rifle Out of Box
« Reply #26 on: August 20, 2021, 10:08:29 AM »
Lights with a match and a single page of newspaper. Hot coals in about 5 minutes, No aftertaste. Durable. About $10. Charcoal chimney.

Thanks, I'll check this out.  We only cook out a handful of times per year, but I find that I have to use a lot of lighter fluid, which is where the nasty taste comes from.  A little taste, I can live with, but too much lighter fluid, and it's pretty repulsive, and could even pose health hazards.  Propane wouldn't do that.  They sell simple, basic full-sized propane grills at Lowe's from $99-$119.  I may let my father get me that for Birthday #61 next month.  I think he'd have been okay with that.

My father was the cook-out master, had it down to a science, but growing up, I was taught that rare meat, or indeed any meat that did not have all the pink cooked out of it, was nasty and not fit to eat.  Everything we had from the grill, was so thoroughly cooked, that A-1 Steak Sauce was needed in abundance.  (Donald Trump flies in the face of all culinary sophistication, and likes his meat the same way.)  As our family economics became better over the years --- frugal didn't even begin to describe it --- my father discovered filets mignons, but he could not get his head around such a thick steak that cannot easily be grilled well-done, so he'd slice them horizontally so that they would be small, thin steaks.  My cousin's husband, Baltimore guy, found this bizarre and questioned it, but as my father noted, that didn't keep George from eating his fill of them!

Sorry for the thread drift (miss my father), let's talk about guns now.  That is a subject that can never be exhausted.


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Re: Best Long Range Rifle Out of Box
« Reply #27 on: August 20, 2021, 10:52:22 AM »
The founder/engineer at American Rifle Company make some interesting bolt actions and a chassis.  His first venture was a blend of the best features of the Mauser and the Springfield—voila, the "Mausingfield." Most recently he designed the Archimedes that uses a pivoting bolt handle lever for extraction.

https://www.americanrifle.com/






Re: Best Long Range Rifle Out of Box
« Reply #28 on: August 20, 2021, 12:48:37 PM »
Nice bolt-actions, looks like they fit in any R700 furniture.

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Re: Best Long Range Rifle Out of Box
« Reply #29 on: August 20, 2021, 06:16:58 PM »
Nice bolt-actions, looks like they fit in any R700 furniture.
Yes. As feature-filled as his Xylo chassis is, it is heavy. Rifle, chassis, rings, and optics make about 13#.

We customized a Rem700, a Proof Carbon barrel, and an ultralightweight Manners stock into a package of about 7#.

An ARC Archimedes action, carbon wrapped barrel, a Trigger Tech Diamond trigger, and a Manners stock would probably weigh about the same 7#, but we really don't need another rifle.

Here's are two interesting options for the "offbeat" 6.5 Grendel cartridge, a very efficient round with excellent inherent accuracy, but ammo is not nearly as prevalent as milspec cartridges.

The Howa Mini Action rifle https://www.howausa.com/rifles/mini-action-rifle/ :

The CZ 527 https://cz-usa.com/product/cz-527-american-synthetic-suppressor-ready/ :

Both of these are available in 7.62x39 chamberings, but that round is at best a 300 yard cartridge, while the 6.5 Grendel is still a performer at 1000-1200 yards.  The CZ is also available in .223, but even with 77gn Berger loadings, that is at best a 600-800 yard performer and with rather anemic terminal ballistics at its limits.