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Traditional Catholic Faith => The Catholic Bunker => Topic started by: DigitalLogos on September 29, 2021, 06:50:24 PM
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My wife and I are at a loss for either a boy or girl name for our third child. I've looked at some Catholic names for both, but nothing that really sticks out and many that come across as "too old fashioned" for her liking (she isn't Catholic).
Any suggestions? :laugh1:
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Cyprian? Damian?
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boy- Emile Jean Marie
girl- Emily or Emilie Jeannette Marie
your welcome ;)
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Marcel or Marcellus or Marcella
How long have we go before a decision must be taken?
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I like Rock (Rocky) for a boy. :)
Actually, if you look at the most popular baby names for 2021 a good number of them are saintly or biblical:
https://www.babycenter.com/baby-names/most-popular/top-baby-names
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There is no shortage of Catholic names. There once was the excellent book, "Is It A Saint's Name?", and my wife and I got it, when we were selecting a name for our son. TAN carried it, but I don't think it's in print any longer. Abebooks supposedly has copies starting at $10.00:
https://www.abebooks.com/9780895550248/Saints-Name-Dunne-William-P-0895550245/plp
We found such names as Hannah, Montana, and Elvis (a form of the Irish Ailbe).
And, no, we didn't name our son Elvis.
It seems as though all white people in this country give their children six-letter English-sounding epicene names, to the exclusion of anything else, more Taylors, Saylors, Hunters, Carters, Bradens, Austins, Paytons, and Hayleys, than you can shake a stick at. ("Austin" is actually a short form of Augustine.)
Don't even get me started on black names, it is as though they have a secret website, "findyouruniqueblackname.com", with a registry to ensure that your child, and nobody else, has that name, spells it that way, and/or pronounces it that way. Apostrophes are inserted the same way that the grammatically weak writer takes a stab in the dark to determine whether a word that ends in "s" takes an apostrophe or not. Better stop there. But the pathetic thing, is that it makes crime stories pretty transparent, even if race isn't specified otherwise.
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My wife ...come across as "too old fashioned" for her liking (she isn't Catholic).
There never was such a thing as fashions when it comes to Catholic names, so your wife's attitude is already off. A name is for life, not a fashion for parents to play games with. If your wife wants to play fashion games for a lifetime let her play it on herself and get some tattoos. A child's name is a very important matter. There are a million Catholic names to pick from. My children all have names that can travel the world, names like Peter, Paul, John, Joseph, Thomas, Mary, Maria, Agnes, Catherine, Isabel, Charlotte Clare, Clara. Don't give your children trendy names, they will be dated for life. All trendy names tell me is (at the very least) is that the parents are not really Catholic or were not when they chose the name. Not a good sign.
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It seems as though all white people in this country give their children six-letter English-sounding epicene names, to the exclusion of anything else, more Taylors, Saylors, Hunters, Carters, Bradens, Austins, Paytons, and Hayleys, than you can shake a stick at. ("Austin" is actually a short form of Augustine.)
I wonder why you would include Austin in this list. Austin is a good Catholic traditional manly name and a boy would be proud to wear it.
My great uncle Austin died at the age of 8 from the Spanish flu before my mother (born 1918) could form a memory of him.
Jerome is a fine name. What about Miriam for a girl. Maybe he/she will be born on a special feastday.
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Some good suggestions here. They aren't due until April/May, so we have plenty of time yet. We are planning on keeping the sex a surprise this time around.
My other kids are named Alison and August (derived from Augustine), but we weren't sure if we wanted yet another A-name.
I do like Marcel, but I doubt she would go for it, plus, my midwestern extended family will have a hell of a time properly pronouncing it. I suggested Kieran for a boy, since she is almost 100% Scots-Irish, and she wasn't in love with it.
Edit: I still am leaning toward Ava Marie for a girl, which my wife actually kind of likes but isn't sold on yet.
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I still am leaning toward Ava Marie for a girl, which my wife actually kind of likes but isn't sold on yet.
Ava means female bird in Spanish, does not travel well, will give her problems and questions all her life. Make it Eva like the rest of the world and she can go anywhere
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Ava means female bird in Spanish, does not travel well, will give her problems and questions all her life. Make it Eva like the rest of the world and she can go anywhere
:laugh1: I don't think much traveling is going to happen in this Brave New World. But I will keep that in mind
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It seems as though all white people in this country give their children six-letter English-sounding epicene names, to the exclusion of anything else, more Taylors, Saylors, Hunters, Carters, Bradens, Austins, Paytons, and Hayleys, than you can shake a stick at. ("Austin" is actually a short form of Augustine.)
Actually, the phenomenon is summed up succinctly: they are using LAST NAMES for their childrens' first names.
They feel like it's been used as a name before -- and yes it has! As a last name. NOT as a given name, which used to be called one's "Christian name". The child's "given" name would be solemnly given to the child at their Christening (baptism). The family name -- the surname, or last name -- that part wasn't negotiable, that part nobody got to choose.
Anything -ton is a corruption of "town". E.g., Colton ("coal town"). Preston ("press town"). I'll stick with naming my children after saints, thankyouverymuch. #Sorrynotsorry.
Most of those names describe a career, which is what the last name used to be. Cooper (maker of barrel rings), Carter, Hunter (use your imagination!), Wainwright (maker of wains), Butler, etc.
Then they do the Megan/Meagan into every letter of the alphabet: Teagan, Reagan, Seagan, etc. -- basically just making crap up.
These kids could have been named after a favored Saint of God -- instead they get a dumb last name for a first name. I'm still waiting for a Mr. & Mrs. McKenzie to name their daughter the quite-well-established name "MacKenzie".
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Don't even get me started on black names, it is as though they have a secret website, "findyouruniqueblackname.com", with a registry to ensure that your child, and nobody else, has that name, spells it that way, and/or pronounces it that way. Apostrophes are inserted the same way that the grammatically weak writer takes a stab in the dark to determine whether a word that ends in "s" takes an apostrophe or not. Better stop there. But the pathetic thing, is that it makes crime stories pretty transparent, even if race isn't specified otherwise.
Not to derail your thread DL, but your post, SM, reminded me of a story that I heard from an elementary school teacher that said that she was looking over her student roster before the first class and noticed a name that she was sure had to be a misprint. She rushed to the office and checked it against the registration form and the roster was indeed correct. So when class started she nervously called on the student in question, "Miss X, could you tell me how you pronounce your first name?" The poor kid's first name was spelled S-H-I-T-H-E-A-D. :facepalm:
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Mary, Maura, Isabelle
Brian, Luke,
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Julius, Augustine , Theo ( said like tay-o ) , Leonardo, Joshua, Xavier , Linus
Elizabeth, Ava , Tabitha, Clara , Veronica , Jane, Therese ,
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Dominic, Nicholas, Maximilian
Mariana, Luciana, Vivian or Viviana
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Julius, Augustine , Theo ( said like tay-o ) , Leonardo, Joshua, Xavier , Linus
Elizabeth, Ava , Tabitha, Clara , Veronica , Jane, Therese ,
I’ve always loved the name Joshua. Strong name for a boy. I don’t seem to hear it often either.
And of course it is like our Lord’s Name.
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Stephanie or Stephen
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Ava Maria is sublime!
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Male: Gideon
OT names are coming back in a big way.
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I love Claire, Sophia, Lilian, Rose...Philip, Nicholas, Maximian (Max), Simon
Clair Annette...or maybe not. :laugh1:
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Also Oscar, Oliver, Martin
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You could name the child after the saints day of their birth. Let the Holy Ghost decide their name...
If not, then use St Wolfgang, Oct 31. It’s Halloween season
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I wonder why you would include Austin in this list. Austin is a good Catholic traditional manly name and a boy would be proud to wear it.
My great uncle Austin died at the age of 8 from the Spanish flu before my mother (born 1918) could form a memory of him.
Jerome is a fine name. What about Miriam for a girl. Maybe he/she will be born on a special feastday.
Agreed, I was just including it in the litany of those six-letter English-derived names that everyone seems to be adopting nowadays. You do correctly note that it is far from being a secular name.
In the 1970s and 1980s, it was all about Irish-sounding names, which at least tended to be saints' names. There is a seemingly infinite number of ways to spell Caitlin.
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So far we've narrowed it down to:
Boy - Owen, Kieran
Girl - Ivy, Olivia, Isla
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Nice choices! But how does one pronounce Isla? It is new to me. Is it Is-la or Isla as in Island?
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Nice choices! But how does one pronounce Isla? It is new to me. Is it Is-la or Isla as in Island?
My wife claims it's "eye-la". I like it, but, I'm fairly certain relatives are going to butcher the poor girl's name if we choose it (pending on whether it's a girl).
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My wife claims it's "eye-la".
Oh, good!
In Scottish Baby Names the meaning of the name Isla is: From the name of a Scottish river.
In Spanish Baby Names the meaning of the name Isla is: Devoted to God.
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Not to derail your thread DL, but your post, SM, reminded me of a story that I heard from an elementary school teacher that said that she was looking over her student roster before the first class and noticed a name that she was sure had to be a misprint. She rushed to the office and checked it against the registration form and the roster was indeed correct. So when class started she nervously called on the student in question, "Miss X, could you tell me how you pronounce your first name?" The poor kid's first name was spelled S-H-I-T-H-E-A-D. :facepalm:
That's an old joke, but still a cute one. The way I heard it, the name was "Shi'Thead" and pronounced "shuh-THEED".
Some of the less-outlandish black names are actually all right, Malik, Jamal, Ahmad, and the like, aside from being Muslim-inspired, aren't bad. And another fairly common black male name is Kyrie, which is heard in the TLM (but usually pronounced "ky-ree"). And names such as Latisha, Felicia, and Katrina are actually forms of saints' names.
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Looks like you've already narrowed it down but I thought I'd throw another "A" name for a boy out there, Andrew. St. Andrew the Apostle is actually the patron saint of Scotland. I don't know if this has ever been verified but I've read that Scotland was the final resting place of his remains. Andrew is a Greek name meaning "manly".
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Looks like you've already narrowed it down but I thought I'd throw another "A" name for a boy out there, Andrew. St. Andrew the Apostle is actually the patron saint of Scotland. I don't know if this has ever been verified but I've read that Scotland was the final resting place of his remains. Andrew is a Greek name meaning "manly".
Unfortunately, Andrew is more of a tradition on the wife's uncle's side of the family. But I have nothing against the name, of course.
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We've settled on "Isla Rose" for a girl. Rose, after my wife's maternal grandma
Still not settled on boy names, though she thinks "Kieran James" doesn't work. :facepalm:
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We've settled on "Isla Rose" for a girl. Rose, after my wife's maternal grandma
Still not settled on boy names, though she thinks "Kieran James" doesn't work. :facepalm:
What Cyprian, Damian, Linus, or Lawrence?
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Isla Rose is lovely! For a boy, what about using the same initials? (In case it’s twins!)
Ivan, Isaiah, Isias, Ismay, Idon, Igor, Ilon, Ion, Ira? Ralph, Ronald, Roland, Richard, Ross, Roger, Russell, Rodney, Roderick, Reginald, Raymond, Rex, Rollo?
Ivan Ross? Idon Richard? Lots of combos!
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Isla Rose is lovely! For a boy, what about using the same initials? (In case it’s twins!)
Ivan, Isaiah, Isias, Ismay, Idon, Igor, Ilon, Ion, Ira? Ralph, Ronald, Roland, Richard, Ross, Roger, Russell, Rodney, Roderick, Reginald, Raymond, Rex, Rollo?
Ivan Ross? Idon Richard? Lots of combos!
"Isla Rose" is indeed very nice, though "Isla" isn't a saint's name. The "Rose" covers that.
I'm assuming that the name is pronounced "eye-la", as with actress Isla Fisher. "Izz-la Rose" would sound a little strange.
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Male: Gideon
OT names are coming back in a big way.
Terrible name lol :facepalm:
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Terrible name lol :facepalm:
Better than Dingbat! :fryingpan:
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"Isla Rose" is indeed very nice, though "Isla" isn't a saint's name. The "Rose" covers that.
I'm assuming that the name is pronounced "eye-la", as with actress Isla Fisher. "Izz-la Rose" would sound a little strange.
Lol yes, it is "eye-la"
We still can't come to an agreement on a boy's name
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I wonder why you would include Austin in this list. Austin is a good Catholic traditional manly name and a boy would be proud to wear it.
My great uncle Austin died at the age of 8 from the Spanish flu before my mother (born 1918) could form a memory of him.
Jerome is a fine name. What about Miriam for a girl. Maybe he/she will be born on a special feastday.
St. Augustine is referenced as St. 'Austin' in various places.
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St. Augustine is referenced as St. 'Austin' in various places.
That is true, it is a fine name, and most emphatically a saint's name. I was merely using it as an example of six-letter, two-syllable English names that are so in vogue these days. I have even thought, if people so have their cap set on giving their children these euphonic, epicene names, such surnames might be found among the various English martyrs who died in the Henrican and post-Henrican persecutions. St John Fisher comes immediately to mind, though unlike "Hunter", "Fisher" isn't a commonly encountered first name.
As I alluded to earlier, twenty or thirty years ago, it was all about Irish names, Caitlin spelled every way you can imagine, and some people went full-on Hibernian and named their daughters Siobhan (she-von) and even Niamh (neeve), and Caiomhe (kee-va). These are all lovely names, but I'd only say to the parents, while Siobhan has become somewhat mainstream (and often spelled phonetically), no one outside of Irish culture would have a clue as how to pronounce Niamh and Caiomhe --- I had to look it up myself. Saiorse (ser-sha), as in Miss Ronan, is another example.
And I cringe whenever I hear "Nguyen" pronounced "noo-jen" (like Ted without the T at the end). It's something like "hw-inn", with the "ng" lightly aspirated.