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Traditional Catholic Faith => The Catholic Bunker => Topic started by: Neil Obstat on November 17, 2017, 05:08:36 PM
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Who can compete with posts like these!
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You live in a toilet?
You deny the ability to recognize heresy. You, like all the others, like you, need help going to the bathroom.
You argue like a little child.
Stop your liberalism. (https://www.cathinfo.com/Smileys/classic/facepalm.gif) (https://www.cathinfo.com/Smileys/classic/facepalm.gif) (https://www.cathinfo.com/Smileys/classic/facepalm.gif)
I have been at this forum long enough to see the tolerance for lies and liberalism
Another double speak moron.
What an idiot!
the number of fools is infinite. Just move on fella!
No, it betrays you idiot. Stop your distortions!
Do you see how stupid your comment to me was?
You will never win, with lies.
I MYSELF HAVE DISMISSED THIS PUKE, AS A LIAR, I'M DONE WITH HIM. HE IS AN UTTER DISGUSTING LIBERAL.
LOL!! What an idiot and a diabolic liar!
You and those like you are not new.
You are an apostate!
Saint worshipping idiot is back!! man as god.
You are on the road to hell!
You have said nothing substantive at all!! But this is common with people like you.
Slithering tongue double speak Ladis, is under demonic influence, for sure!
You are a public fool and a liar! I can recognize the truth and I also recognize that you are a devil.
Hey stupid devil!!!
Moron Ladi's lies.
You are on the road to hell, Neil. You are so arrogant and prideful, your stink is foul.
Two peas, in a rotten pod.
Grow up moron!
There will always be inconsistencies with liars, heretics, false traditionalists.
This is exactly why women are not to teach!!! YOU LIE AND DISTORT.
STOP YOUR OUTRAGEOUS OBSTINANCE.
Stupid, I mean Stubborn, is going to be one of the loudest reprobates screaming and crying; but Lord!, Lord!, I have prophesied in your Name
Heretics like you, in order to have your lies
Idiot Ladi, you are a flaming liberal!
A five year old, would do a better job at understanding what is said in those verse of Paralipomenon than you.
Five year olds are better behaved than a moron like you!!!
Stubborn, you are a donkey, eeah!, eeah!
Desire alone, faith alone, is an outright lie.
Well said, Last Tradhican, these guys are nothing but modernists stooges.
These imbeciles Look at these buffoons
This book is truly amazing, it is a must read! Bro. Peter Dimond, O.S.B. http://www.mostholyfamilymonastery.com/2nd_edition_final.pdf
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www.schismatic-home-aloner.com (http://www.schismatic-home-aloner.com/)
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Birds of a feather flock together. One would have to be a pretty miserable person to go around writing bilge scuм like that
Does MHFM know they're being associated with such calumnious delinquency? Or perhaps the author is from MHFM!!
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The posts of this so-called Freedom remind me of the Little Insults of Bishop of Rome, Francis (https://popefrancisbookofinsults.blogspot.co.uk/):
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Functionary!
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Fomenter of coprophagia!
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Rosary counter!
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Restorationist!
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Ideological Christians!
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Specialist of the Logos!
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Mr and Mrs Whiner!
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Superficial Christians!
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Airport bishop!
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Renaissance prince!
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Leprous courtier!
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Long-faced mournful funeral Christian!
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Querulous and disillusioned pessimist!
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Pickled pepper-faced Christian!
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Watered-down faith, weak-hoped Christian!
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Creed-reciting parrot Christian!
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Such a Church isn't useful, it's no more than a museum!
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https://popefrancisbookofinsults.blogspot.co.uk/
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The posts of this so-called Freedom remind me of the Little Insults of Bishop of Rome, Francis (https://popefrancisbookofinsults.blogspot.co.uk/):
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I was wondering just how many of the insults you presented, Neil, were from brave Anonymous. Now you seem to be implying that they come from the verbacious Freedom. Can you clarify this, please Neil.
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LOL ... a classic compilation.
I believe that about 75% of these were directed at me.
And this doesn't include the Anonymous blowhard whom I suspect to have been Freedom also.
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I was wondering just how many of the insults you presented, Neil, were from brave Anonymous. Now you seem to be implying that they come from the verbacious Freedom. Can you clarify this, please Neil.
Nadir, I believe that that particular bale of insults are a collection of those statements which Francis Bergolio has used when referring to Traditional Catholics. This is the "catholic" teaching of the conciliar bandits,but is here used as a comparison to the terms used to describe Francis himself. How ironic is such a mutual hate society?
Do not take that as an endorsement though, Fracis is a devil if ever there was one.............
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Thanks JPaul. I was referring to the list Neil complied of insults which have appeared in more recent times on CathInfo, and not to Bergoglio's collection.
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Thanks JPaul. I was referring to the list Neil complied of insults which have appeared in more recent times on CathInfo, and not to Bergoglio's collection.
Sorry friend,
My error.......again ;)
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No, you can't.
I saw Freedom's recent posts, saw that he was a huge fan of the Dimond Bros (MHFM), and decided to ban him.
You're right -- if he's not one of them himself, they have certainly taught him well how to anathematize, lack charity, spew bile, etc.
" [15] (http://drbo.org/x/d?b=drb&bk=47&ch=23&l=15-#x) Woe to you scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites; because you go round about the sea and the land to make one proselyte; and when he is made, you make him the child of hell twofold more than yourselves."
Men like him make it difficult to want to be (or stay) Catholic. Saints inspire people to convert to the Faith, even if that means hardships in the process. See the difference?
Even though forums are usually "the more the merrier" when it comes to # of members, nevertheless I think CathInfo is overall better-off with one less member in this case.
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I was wondering just how many of the insults you presented, Neil, were from brave Anonymous. Now you seem to be implying that they come from the verbacious Freedom. Can you clarify this, please Neil.
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They were ALL from Freedom's posts, every single one. None of them were from Anonymous, unless those show up on your profile search, which I don't think they do. I could provide links but I didn't think it was worth the bother. Links take time.
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No, you can't.
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That's a relief. Thank you.
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Men like him make it difficult to want to be (or stay) Catholic. Saints inspire people to convert to the Faith, even if that means hardships in the process. See the difference?
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Something to think about. Saints inspire people to convert to the Faith -- a prime example ought to be the man the Church presents as the Holy Father. Unfortunately these days, we have a hard time following his example to become saints. Which see (https://www.cathinfo.com/the-catholic-bunker/apparently-you-can-post-all-manner-of-malediction-on-cathinfo/msg579727/#msg579727).
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I checked out The Pope Francis
Little Bumper Book of Insults
https://popefrancisbookofinsults.blogspot.co.uk/
Is there a Pope Francis double running around?
One of the pictures displayed on that blog does not look like Francis at all.
All we need are doubles reminiscent of the Hillary campaign.
Lord have mercy.
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No, you can't.
I saw Freedom's recent posts, saw that he was a huge fan of the Dimond Bros (MHFM), and decided to ban him.
You're right -- if he's not one of them himself, they have certainly taught him well how to anathematize, lack charity, spew bile, etc.
" [15] (http://drbo.org/x/d?b=drb&bk=47&ch=23&l=15-#x) Woe to you scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites; because you go round about the sea and the land to make one proselyte; and when he is made, you make him the child of hell twofold more than yourselves."
Men like him make it difficult to want to be (or stay) Catholic. Saints inspire people to convert to the Faith, even if that means hardships in the process. See the difference?
Even though forums are usually "the more the merrier" when it comes to # of members, nevertheless I think CathInfo is overall better-off with one less member in this case.
Thank you for banning him. He had abused us all too far too long.
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This should be a lesson to us all, about why we should steer clear of MHFM, the Dimond Brothers, at all costs.
Just look at the level of hate they foment in their closest disciples! But the scary part is, the more docile and "teachable" you are, the more like this member 'Freedom' you become! In other words, he didn't develop that lack of charity and abundance of hate IN SPITE OF the Dimond Brothers teaching and example. He is precisely this way because of it!
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LOL ... a classic compilation.
I believe that about 75% of these were directed at me.
And this doesn't include the Anonymous blowhard whom I suspect to have been Freedom also.
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I only had to use his 7 most recent pages, when there are 18 more to use. But he was getting more and more bold lately, so those older 18 pages weren't so, how do you say, rich?
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It was getting pretty rank and he was absolutely immune to correcting his attitude. You endured quite a storm of fury, Ladislaus, you and Stubborn and a few others.
Hat's off to you! :cowboy: .. :) <----(the hat's missing)
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Thanks JPaul. I was referring to the list Neil complied of insults which have appeared in more recent times on CathInfo, and not to Bergoglio's collection.
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The one that really got to me was this one from November 10th:
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Quote from: Clemens Maria on November 09, 2017, 09:25:05 PM (https://www.cathinfo.com/crisis-in-the-church/dogma-gt-desire-and-laver-of-regeneration-cannot-be-separated/msg578312/#msg578312)
You probably don't want to go there given that the schismatic-home-aloner YouTube channel is one of the most popular Catholic channels. Popularity doesn't discredit the message.
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Necessarily, one does not support the other. There are people starving for the truth out in the world. The Brothers, work is impeccable. I have been at this forum long enough to see the tolerance for lies, and liberalism, instead of fighting against it, without worrying about respect or what someone will think of that person.
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Since his first post was only October 10th, how could he have "been at this forum" that long? He must have been a lurker for some time before October. So perhaps he was a contributor to the Anonymous sub-forum, to the effect of dragging IT down....
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You see, he was convinced that there is a total "Freedom" of responsibility on CI; and when you consider that perhaps he chose his username in order to demonstrate that opinion was for me the last straw! As it were, a "special circuмstance" of premeditation. So I opened this thread with his own choice of words, to let them stand on their own merit.
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Thank you Matthew!
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hCg5NsY2aFE
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Hat's off to you Matthew! :cowboy: .. :) <----(the hat's missing)
Echoing this part of Neil's post toward Matthew for banning Freedom. I'm sure he was banned a year or so before too, but I cannot remember what screen name he went by back then.
It's good that he lasted the three or four weeks he was here this trip, that should be plenty long enough to show what the Dimonds can do to some people and why it's best to just stay away from them completely.
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When Matthew gets done cleaning house maybe it will be safe for me to come back. :-\
To those who called Matthew a hypocrite for doing what especially Freedom has done. That is the problem he brings out the worst in people either in thought or in replying back. That is not a good thing.
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DZ Please and "Catholictrue" have both been banned for insulting the moderator.
I don't know how "Catholictrue" flew under the radar thus far -- he must not have spoken his mind yet. He completely doesn't belong here, or in any other group of Trad Catholics.
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DZ Please and "Catholictrue" have both been banned for insulting the moderator.
I don't know how "Catholictrue" flew under the radar thus far -- he must not have spoken his mind yet. He completely doesn't belong here, or in any other group of Trad Catholics.
:applause: :applause:
Sad but good for you Matthew!
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This is what I had been complaining about in an earlier post. I didn't realise, however, that most of the bile was from a single person. This will definitely be a better place without him.
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No, you can't.
I saw Freedom's recent posts, saw that he was a huge fan of the Dimond Bros (MHFM), and decided to ban him.
You're right -- if he's not one of them himself, they have certainly taught him well how to anathematize, lack charity, spew bile, etc.
" [15] (http://drbo.org/x/d?b=drb&bk=47&ch=23&l=15-#x) Woe to you scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites; because you go round about the sea and the land to make one proselyte; and when he is made, you make him the child of hell twofold more than yourselves."
Men like him make it difficult to want to be (or stay) Catholic. Saints inspire people to convert to the Faith, even if that means hardships in the process. See the difference?
Even though forums are usually "the more the merrier" when it comes to # of members, nevertheless I think CathInfo is overall better-off with one less member in this case.
What's so incredibly bizarre is that I do not believe in Baptism of Desire myself. I was merely arguing that BoD is NOT heresy. At one point he called me a heretic for saying that BoD isn't heresy. So now merely disagreeing with a theological note qualifies as heresy.
No, he's not one of the Dimond Brothers, as the latter are much more intelligent and educated than he is. I believe that Catholictrue is one of the Dimond Brothers. I called him Brother at one point and he didn't object; his thinking and his writing style are almost identical to that of MHFM.
Most true "Feeneyites" (and Father Feeney himself) considered the position on Baptism of Desire to be an opinion and would never anathematize those who disagree with them. We have other problems with regard to Catholic ecclesiology that we consider more substantial and more important. It's the mix of dogmatic sedevacantism with "Feeneyism" that has yielded the bitter fruits you describe. On those threads, I laid out the problem with dogmatic anything-ism. What these guys do is to equate various positions that they have drawn by way of argument (syllogism) FROM dogma with dogma itself, believing that the validity of their logic has the certainty of faith. As everyone who has studied logic knows, peiorem partem sequitur conclusio (the conclusion is only as strong as the weakest point in the argument); consequently, the INSTANT that human reason starts applying logic to a dogma, the conclusion cannot be dogma because it cannot have the certainty of faith ... not until the Church defines it as such.
When, from time to time, a theological opponent of theirs passes away, they write these articles in which it sounds very much as if they're relishing the (in their opinion) certain eternal damnation of the departed "heretic". I'm sure that they'll be exulting in the same upon my demise.
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DZ Please and "Catholictrue" have both been banned for insulting the moderator.
I don't know how "Catholictrue" flew under the radar thus far -- he must not have spoken his mind yet. He completely doesn't belong here, or in any other group of Trad Catholics.
I'm pretty sure that Catholictrue was one of the Dimond Brothers.
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I only had to use his 7 most recent pages, when there are 18 more to use. But he was getting more and more bold lately, so those older 18 pages weren't so, how do you say, rich?
Yeah, I'm pretty sure that I brought this out in him with the last few pages of posts, especially on that one particular thread. Then he went after Stubborn for not being a sedevacantist.
In a tragic sort of way (vis-a-vis the condition of his soul), he was in fact rather entertaining. I was on the edge of my seat waiting for what manner of colorful insult he would come up with next. And, on a more serious note, he did provide a lesson in what bitter zeal and dogmatism on some matter can do to the mind and the soul.
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Yeah, I'm pretty sure that I brought this out in him with the last few pages of posts, especially on that one particular thread. Then he went after Stubborn for not being a sedevacantist.
In a tragic sort of way (vis-a-vis the condition of his soul), he was in fact rather entertaining. I was on the edge of my seat waiting for what manner of colorful insult he would come up with next. And, on a more serious note, he did provide a lesson in what bitter zeal and dogmatism on some matter can do to the mind and the soul.
Yes, yes--the bitter zeal. That's what I just cannot understand about so many of these guys like "Freedom". They leave no room for disagreement, discussion, opinion and good faith. Disagree with them and immediately they call you a heretic, a simpleton, a liar, a soul in bad faith, etc., and finally this: They condemn you to hell and do it with an almost demonic glee. I know they would disagree with this last part and I can't prove it to be true, but they write in a way that sure sounds as though they are really pleased to see you damned. I wish they would take time off from the polemics and read something spiritual like, maybe, Saint Francis de Sales, and let him teach them about honey and vinegar and flies. If you want somebody to swallow your message you gotta make it taste good, not bitter.
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Yes, yes--the bitter zeal. That's what I just cannot understand about so many of these guys like "Freedom". They leave no room for disagreement, discussion, opinion and good faith. Disagree with them and immediately they call you a heretic, a simpleton, a liar, a soul in bad faith, etc., and finally this: They condemn you to hell and do it with an almost demonic glee. I know they would disagree with this last part and I can't prove it to be true, but they write in a way that sure sounds as though they are really pleased to see you damned. I wish they would take time off from the polemics and read something spiritual like, maybe, Saint Francis de Sales, and let him teach them about honey and vinegar and flies. If you want somebody to swallow your message you gotta make it taste good, not bitter.
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If only it were that simple. These people show signs of a deeper emotional problem, one that would require them to endure an extreme and dangerous experience which surviving would give them the opportunity to outgrow their malicious heart. But it wouldn't necessarily work out that way. They still have free will.
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In any case, I doubt that there ever could be something happening on the Internet that would effect the necessary change of heart. The Internet isn't capable of accomplishing that. It's all virtual reality.
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But you have a good point in the reading of good spiritual books. There is something about physical turning of pages in a book that changes the soul, much more so than clicking icons and flipping virtual pages on a computer's display.
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Quote from: Neil Obstat on Yesterday at 07:30:18 PM (https://www.cathinfo.com/the-catholic-bunker/apparently-you-can-post-all-manner-of-malediction-on-cathinfo/msg579757/#msg579757)
Hat's off to you Matthew! (https://www.cathinfo.com/Smileys/classic/cowboy.gif) .. (https://www.cathinfo.com/Smileys/classic/smiley.gif) <----(the hat's missing)
Echoing this part of Neil's post toward Matthew for banning Freedom. I'm sure he was banned a year or so before too, but I cannot remember what screen name he went by back then.
It's good that he lasted the three or four weeks he was here this trip, that should be plenty long enough to show what the Dimonds can do to some people and why it's best to just stay away from them completely.
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Just for the record -- I didn't put "Matthew" in that post. But curiously, it was directed at Stubborn. :confused:
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...... that is, Ladislaus, Stubborn, etc. I guess that also means Matthew.
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Yes, yes--the bitter zeal. That's what I just cannot understand about so many of these guys like "Freedom". They leave no room for disagreement, discussion, opinion and good faith. Disagree with them and immediately they call you a heretic, a simpleton, a liar, a soul in bad faith, etc., and finally this: They condemn you to hell and do it with an almost demonic glee. I know they would disagree with this last part and I can't prove it to be true, but they write in a way that sure sounds as though they are really pleased to see you damned. I wish they would take time off from the polemics and read something spiritual like, maybe, Saint Francis de Sales, and let him teach them about honey and vinegar and flies. If you want somebody to swallow your message you gotta make it taste good, not bitter.
It's worse than that. We're not talking about sugar coating a truth, being polite, being civil, etc.
There's something much more fundamentally wrong with these people than just being "rough", "impolite", "rough around the edges", or "over zealous". We're talking about people swollen with pride, who don't really have the love of God in their souls.
The proof is that when someone is going to Hell, they don't care. You won't catch one of these types offering up a sacrifice (in secret) to convert a sinner -- you know, like the saints did. No, instead you have more of a power trip, an exercise in vainglory and pride, seeing who is right, tons of emotion, etc.
You could talk about the honey & flies thing with regards to pagan relatives addicted to sinful worldly amusements and lifestyles. But that's not what we're talking about here. We're talking about serious Traditional Catholics who are -- according to all evidence and appearances -- making great sacrifices to keep the Faith and live their lives in accordance with God's law.
Such people you shouldn't have to sugarcoat. They SHOULD be considered your co-religionists (those in the same religion), fellow Catholics, allies against the world, and even friends.
In other words, you're granting too much. These demons of bitter zeal are not dealing with a society of pagans who need conversion, but Traditional Catholics. It's like they are in a different religion or something -- and for most intents and purposes, they are! That's why I call such people cultists. If you consider their religion "MHFM cult" then their behavior will make MUCH more sense than if you consider their religion "Roman Catholic" or "Traditional Catholic".
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I also note that "Truecatholic" claims to have exposed Eric GaJєωski to the world (which they did with their videos), but he downplays and even denies the fact that CathInfo (in the form of the member Croixalist) had him beat by several weeks.
I wasn't doing nothing, or helping to hide the situation. On the contrary. He probably found out about it via CathInfo. But did he acknowledge that truth, or even thank us here? Oh no. He instead attacked us, even making up lies since there was nothing true to attack us about, on this heading.
Such is the behavior of a devil or a bad guy, not a saint or servant of God.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hCg5NsY2aFE
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Thanks for re-posting this. I'm surprised I laughed harder the second time around!
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Quote (4:40):
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Why devote the nearly 200 pages of this encyclical to ... well, essentially, Environmental nagging?
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Oh, Raymond! Seens against Mother Earth and Brother Moon, seens against the sky, the sun, the rocks, the dirt, seens against the eagle eggs perched on craggy cliffs, these are among the most serious moral failings imaginable!
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Really?! It's quite remarkable that no other Pope in the 2,000-year history of the Church has realized that!
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I know, RhIGHT?
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Let's discuss a few of your actions and statements that have caused much consternation among the faithful.
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You mean, among the reegid, Pharasaical, self-absorbed, Promethean, pickle-pepper-faced, neo-Pelagian, sour-pussed, Creed-reciting, parrot Christians?!
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You know, in generations gone by, these people would simply be called, "Believing Catholics."
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Rosary-counting, whiny, poop-obsessed, gnostic, liquid, mummified, pastry-shop Christians? I could go on!!
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(min. 6:00)
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But, before we go, a special treat for our viewers. As you know, for the last 4 years, there's been more than one man "wearing white" at the Vatican. Yet, since the 2013 announcement of his resignation from the Chair of Peter, we've heard very little from Pope Benedict XVI. I asked Francis for an update on Benedict, and you may be surprised about what this 90-year old has been up to. One last question, your Holiness. Can you give us any new-ws or updates on Pope Benedict?
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Yhes, of course! I think Benedict imagined that he whould lead a slower pace of life after retiring, but trrrust me, whe have manhaged to keep heem beesy whith duuties. In fact, heer, let me show yhou one of the most huseful duuties we have deefized for heem. Look out that wheendow behind yhou..... Peek up dee paayce, Rrrahtzeeenger!! .. Ha-Ha-Ha-Ha-Ha!
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Keep up with the trouble we're causing at MeddlingCatholics.com!
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Not to derail the thread, but I'm not sure where else to put this one. It's satire on Protestants by Protestants.
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It's the video that came up after the above one was finished, it's a year old but aging very well .........
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Pope Francis comes up at minute 3:56, and at 4:30 along with Pope St. Leo X (English with an Italian accent).
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lM9BR55nA2U
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Francis is portrayed with his hypothetical shtick talking about himself, hypothetically, as if he can FOOL an apparition of St. Leo X. It's pretty funny. Even for Protestants!
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I also note that "Truecatholic" claims to have exposed Eric GaJєωski to the world (which they did with their videos), but he downplays and even denies the fact that CathInfo (in the form of the member Croixalist) had him beat by several weeks.
I wasn't doing nothing, or helping to hide the situation. On the contrary. He probably found out about it via CathInfo. But did he acknowledge that truth, or even thank us here? Oh no. He instead attacked us, even making up lies since there was nothing true to attack us about, on this heading.
Such is the behavior of a devil or a bad guy, not a saint or servant of God.
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Okay, back to reality. Thank you Matthew for explaining this. I've been surprised to find out how many Catholics who know about TradCatKnight know nothing about where he got his hit counts or the fact that it was discovered when it was or by whom -- nor are they much interested when I try to explain it.
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It's even more disconcerting when the one to whom I speak is a priest.
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What a world. It's times like this I get a glimpse of what you face almost every day.
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Hey, Matthew, you missed one ... Deliveringit:
https://www.cathinfo.com/crisis-in-the-church/real-catholic-traditionalists-vs-false-traditionalists/msg579857/?topicseen#msg579857