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  • Yes, Apocalypse 12 will come to pass this year. Yes it is the 100th anniversary of Fatima. But a very wise friend once told me never to make predictions about chastisements or punishments for any such occasion. The problem is if nothing happens it brings these occurrences into some disrepute. The only prediction one can guarantee will happen is if Our Lady says it will happen. She forecast the very day and sign (a light in the sky that would reach down to Moscow) World war II would begin.

    That said, we can pray Our Lord will put a stop to this world-wide insult. Over the weekend a gambling company posted pictures of Our Lady holding a football cup at Knock. Then we had our elected ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ head of government visited Canada where he and the Canadian prime-minister headed a sodomite parade. His timing to visit Canada was planned so, and he even announced to the Canadian press that he is going to have a referendum next spring to bring about unborn baby killing in Ireland. If ever we need a chastisement it is now.

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  • But I do believe there will be a chastisement sooner or later.
     If ever we need a chastisement it is now.

    Uh, guys...is it out of the question to state that the Chastisement is already happening?  I mean, worldwide madness...it has NOT always been like this, contrary to what some "rose-tinted glasses" Pollyanna types say.
    I'd say we're already experiencing punishment.  With more to come.  
    Remember, this Revelations prophecy isn't just God coming out of the clouds to kill a third of the people.  1/3rd of the people also get killed in revolutions and wars.  After all is said and done, 2/3rds of us are dead.  A lot of good people are gonna die.  Often killed by their own countrymen.    
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  •   A lot of good people are gonna die.  Often killed by their own countrymen.    
    Yes, it is like weeding your garden, you pull the weeds but sometimes the good plants come up with the weeds. 
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    Did you notice what WASN'T in the skies during totality?  Nibiru.
    For the record, no one on this board ever said that Nirubu/Planet X was going to be seen during the eclipse.  However, we know that Apocalypse ch 12 says that the sign of Our Lady will be seen in the sky (on Sept 23), therefore we know that (at some point) there will be a sign of the dragon also in the sky.  If verses 1&2 refer to a literal constellation sign, then so do verses 3&4.

    Further, there are many prophecies which talk of a destructive 'comet' which causes earthquakes, floods, tsunamis, and the 3 days of darkness.  There could be a gap of many years between verses 1&2 ('the woman') and verses 3&4 ('red dragon'), or it could be a gap of a few months.  But it is undeniable that both signs will be able to be seen (maybe not like the eclipse, with the naked eye) but through a telescope, in constellation form.

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  • For the record, no one on this board ever said that Nirubu/Planet X was going to be seen during the eclipse.  However, we know that Apocalypse ch 12 says that the sign of Our Lady will be seen in the sky (on Sept 23), therefore we know that (at some point) there will be a sign of the dragon also in the sky.  If verses 1&2 refer to a literal constellation sign, then so do verses 3&4.

    Further, there are many prophecies which talk of a destructive 'comet' which causes earthquakes, floods, tsunamis, and the 3 days of darkness.  There could be a gap of many years between verses 1&2 ('the woman') and verses 3&4 ('red dragon'), or it could be a gap of a few months.  But it is undeniable that both signs will be able to be seen (maybe not like the eclipse, with the naked eye) but through a telescope, in constellation form.
    Provided that, of course, the premise that this conjunction phenomenon on Sept 23rd is really that Woman of Revelations spoken of in Scripture.  
    It's quite possible that this 2-year old theory is bunk, and along the same lines as the Nibiru hype.
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  • There are plenty of astronomers, many of whom are protestants and have no idea this is related to Our Lady, who have confirmed that this 'sign of the woman' is unique in the history of recorded astrological events.  Planet X may not have any connection to the 'red dragon' but I do believe, without a doubt, that the 'red dragon' will be seen in some capacity.

    It's just hard to 'write off' the Planet X theory, because it's red, has a tail, and there are historical records from ancient civilizations (who studied these things like we study cellphone technology) which talk about the same kind of planetary being.  The reason this is not reported is political, I believe, and also because it's not as easily seen by the public in the sky or a computer program, like a constellation can be.

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  • Nibiru now  :ready-to-eat:  Nibiru now  :ready-to-eat:
    "Some preachers will keep silence about the truth, and others will trample it underfoot and deny it. Sanctity of life will be held in derision even by those who outwardly profess it, for in those days Our Lord Jesus Christ will send them not a true Pastor but a destroyer."  St. Francis of Assisi


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  • I believe it is safe to say that September 23rd will be the fulfillment of Apocalypse 12:1, it is word for word the fulfillment. I don't think it's just an accident that it occurs one hundred years after Fatima.

    I do think that the red dragon may have a literal fulfilment too. It could be a case of only understanding the prophecy after it has been fulfilled. I believe we are deep into the end times and this is one of the last signs God will give us, I would agree with any poster on hear that believes we have lived through the great apostasy and that the second coming is approaching. I believe this sign to be a major signal of the second coming of Our Lord Jesus Christ.

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  • The Catholics have not understood the meaning of this sign, and that is a tragedy...

    The most ancien Fathers taught that the woman, in chapter 12, symbolized the Church. Of course she is Our Lady in a spiritual sense, but she is the Church in an eschatological sense; and Father Gallois theorized that the male son was the Pope in an eschatological sense, at the same time as Our Lord in a spiritual sense. Fathers Berry and Kramer adopted this idea, and they said that it should be a given pope, not only the Pope in an abstract sense.

    In chapter 12, all angels are gathered in heaven; and since angels allude to bishops and heaven alludes to the Church in the Apocalypse, it means that this chapter describes an oecuмenical council, during which all bishops of the earth are gathered. There is a fight between the wicked shepherds and the good ones. When the wicked are defeated, Satan is rejected from heaven and "cast out upon the earth": it is a metaphor of the excommunication of the modernist clergy. And this excommunication is depicted in the following words: "he has been cast out, the accuser of our brethren". This phrase alludes to the Book of Zachary, when Joshua the high priest came back from the Babylonian Captivity and restored the Jєωιѕн theocracy. It thus means that a legitimate pope will come back from the captivity of the new Babylon (the false Church) to excommunicate the modernist clergy. But who is this Pope? Chapter 12 of the Apocalypse gives us the answer: he is the "male son" (the Pope) elected during the oecuмenical council, which means that this Pope can only be Paul VI. And the latter truly went through the captivity of the new Babylon, because he remained imprisoned in the Vatican from 1972 until 1981. In some way we are also spiritual captives of the counterfeit Church, because she exerts her wicked influence over the world.

    Chapter 12 predicts the triumph of the Martyr Pope, because verse 5 tells us that the male son is given back to God's throne; and in chapter 4, God's throne symbolizes the headquarters of the theocracy, the papacy. Therefore, the Martyr Pope will be given back to the headquarters of the Church, just as Our Lord was given back to His Father.

    The refuge of the woman means the exile of the Pope; and the 42 months are to be heard in years, just like the weeks of Daniel. Now, between the date when Paul VI was replaced with a double and the date when he will reappear, there will be 42 years (1975-2017). The alternative replacement of Paul VI with a double occured in 1972, and the definitive replacement in 1975. There are 1260 years between the donation of the Papal States and the false canonization of Wojtyla, and there are 42 years between the alternative replacement of Paul VI with a double and this false canonization. In the Apocalypse, this gruesome ceremony marks the imminence of God's chastisement, and the end of the Papal States until the end of the world.

    More information here: https://paulvisurvivalsecretfatima.wordpress.com/

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  • Yes, the Apocalypse has many meanings.  Chapter 12 speaks of the woman 'about to give birth' which many Church Fathers say that this means the Church is about to elect a new pope.  I could very easily see Pope Francis and Benedict dying at anytime, which, hopefully, would give rise to a good pope, who would "clean house".

    I heard this prophecy a few years ago and I think we will see its fulfillment soon:

    "When the White Pope and the Black Pope shall die during the same night then there will dawn for the Christian nations the Great White Day. Woe unto the City of Philosophers, woe unto Lombardy for thy towers of joy shall be broken down; All the tyrants shall be put out of God's Church, and there shall occur a general conversion to the faith of Christ under the Great Lion."

    White pope = Benedict.  He's still called the pope and still wears white.
    Black pope = Francis, because the leader of the jesuits has always had the nickname of 'black pope' and Francis is the ONLY jesuit pope ever.
    City of Philosophers = the ancient greek city of Campania, which is now Naples, Italy in the south of the country.
    Lombardy = the northern part of Italy, with the capital of Milan.
    Great Lion = the coming great, holy and Catholic monarch who will eventually be Holy Roman Emperor.

    When's the next time there will even be 2 popes alive at the same time??


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  • That depends!  
    In the conclusion of a sedevacantist there isn't even one pope alive, unless of course Amakusa is correct then there is Paul VI still alive.  

    Which I know that God can keep him alive, look how long the two witnesses are still alive.  Enoch and Elijah, prophets who did not die.

    I would like to ask Amakusa;  if Paul VI is so special of a pope, why didn't he consecrated Russia as Our Lady requested ( to her Immaculate Heart )?  This should have been his first act after his election and before he was kidnapped.
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  • That depends!  
    In the conclusion of a sedevacantist there isn't even one pope alive, unless of course Amakusa is correct then there is Paul VI still alive.  

    Which I know that God can keep him alive, look how long the two witnesses are still alive. Enoch and Elijah, prophets who did not die.

    I would like to ask Amakusa;  if Paul VI is so special of a pope, why didn't he consecrated Russia as Our Lady requested ( to her Immaculate Heart )?  This should have been his first act after his election and before he was kidnapped.

    Why is it that if it all depends on Pope Paul V (or Pope Benedict XVI) doing an Enoch and Elijah I cannot see anything improving. Didn't both do all the harm at Vatican II? Wasn't it Pope Paul VI who brought in the vernacular NO Mass and endless other Vatican II reforms? Who wants him back?

    Oh yes, that was the twin, the REAL PAUL VI was kidnapped just after being elected and placed in hiding. Born in 1897 he would be 120 years old now, probably the oldest man in the world today. If the salvation of the Catholic Church depends on all this nonsense it brings Catholicism into disrepute.

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  • Why is it that if it all depends on Pope Paul V (or Pope Benedict XVI) doing an Enoch and Elijah I cannot see anything improving. Didn't both do all the harm at Vatican II? Wasn't it Pope Paul VI who brought in the vernacular NO Mass and endless other Vatican II reforms? Who wants him back?

    Oh yes, that was the twin, the REAL PAUL VI was kidnapped just after being elected and placed in hiding. Born in 1897 he would be 120 years old now, probably the oldest man in the world today. If the salvation of the Catholic Church depends on all this nonsense it brings Catholicism into disrepute.
    I would still like to hear from Amakusa about my question I asked for some strange reason the font came out so tiny, perhaps he didn't see it.  No idea why the font appeared that small.  

    I would like to ask Amakusa;  if Paul VI is so special of a pope, why didn't he consecrated Russia as Our Lady requested ( to her Immaculate Heart )?  This should have been his first act after his election and before he was kidnapped.
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  • I think there's far more evidence that Cardinal Siri was elected in 1958, and forced to resign, which would mean he was pope-elect until 1989 when he died, and all the others (John XXIII, Paul VI, JP, JPII) were not validly elected.  That would mean Benedict could have been valid.  This would mean the above prophecy could still be true.

    The first i've heard of the twin Paul VI was 2 months ago.  I just don't buy it.