Author Topic: Apocalypse Ch 12: Sign of the Woman and Planet X - Nirubu - The Red Dragon (Read 18492 times)

sean1846 · « **Reply #90 on:** September 06, 2017, 11:34:43 AM »

It'll be interesting when 12:1 is fulfilled. The red dragon should manifest soon. I do think there is a connection between 12:1 and Fatima. The red dragon could very well have been the communist soviet union. At the height of it's power, it held one third of the world's population.

LaramieHirsch · « **Reply #91 on:** September 06, 2017, 11:37:02 AM »

So...what're you people going to do when September and October comes and goes, and nothing supernatural occurs?

An inquiring mind wants to know.

Student of Qi · « **Reply #92 on:** September 06, 2017, 11:58:21 AM »

Quote from: LaramieHirsch on September 06, 2017, 11:37:02 AM

So...what're you people going to do when September and October comes and goes, and nothing supernatural occurs?

An inquiring mind wants to know.

Suppose there is only an increase of natural catastrophes? Nothing Supernatural has to happen, necessarily. In anycase, whether or not something big happens I will continue to pray for everyone, fight my most prominent fault, and trust in God's Mercy and Mother Mary's advocacy.

Personally, I am among those who think the worst is to come in 2029, since Sr. Lucy didn't receive the formal request for Russia's consecration until 1929. And this, all on the presumption we really have 100 years...

LaramieHirsch · « **Reply #93 on:** September 06, 2017, 12:08:07 PM »

Who knows.

As a man with children, I certainly wouldn't mind if the world isn't demolished, and America is allowed to limp on. I'd like to see the last two Avengers movies, too.

Yet, on the other hand...people sure are collectively asking for it.

I take it all with a grain of salt. Most people seem incapable of doing that, though.

Tradplorable · « **Reply #94 on:** September 06, 2017, 04:08:14 PM »

Quote from: Pax Vobis on August 30, 2017, 10:37:23 PM

Sorry, i meant solar. But the point is that a lunar or solar eclipse could never account for 3 hrs of darkness. Something else must have caused the eclipse. Something BIGGER.

Yes, probably the Destroyer.
But, it isn't hidden, per se, it's just that we can't see it because the sun is too bright in the day and it is basically a big rock that gives no light to be seen at night. Kind of like how you can't see the moon when it passes over at a solar eclipse, but the solar eclipse does show other bodies that are travelling with the sun. I think it is one of those.

cindy gibson · « **Reply #95 on:** September 11, 2017, 01:41:24 AM »

What prophecies talk about planet Nibiru? I have never read or seen any such prophecies. Nor have I ever heard Prelates such as Fr kramer
or Bishop Williamson speak of them. Both of which are prophecy experts. :o

cassini · « **Reply #96 on:** September 11, 2017, 04:15:27 AM »

Last night I was watching EURONEWS. All around the world nature is angry. To see mankind and his structures being blown and washed away shows me that God may well be teaching us a lesson in this year.

And what is the reaction? In my newspaper this female journalist says it is GOD showing Donald Trump that global-warming is a fact. Once they used to say God is angry at the behavior of mankind, now they use it to say 'too many people,' bring on more baby killing.

When the chastisment does come in earnest, it seems man will no longer know what God is really all about and blame it all on 'global warming.'.

Student of Qi · « **Reply #97 on:** September 11, 2017, 08:18:40 AM »

Quote from: cassini on September 11, 2017, 04:15:27 AM

Last night I was watching EURONEWS. All around the world nature is angry. To see mankind and his structures being blown and washed away shows me that God may well be teaching us a lesson in this year.

And what is the reaction? In my newspaper this female journalist says it is GOD showing Donald Trump that global-warming is a fact. Once they used to say God is angry at the behavior of mankind, now they use it to say 'too many people,' bring on more baby killing.

When the chastisment does come in earnest, it seems man will no longer know what God is really all about and blame it all on 'global warming.'.

That may be so in most places, but good things come from chastisements. Here in Houston, there is a traditionalist diocesen prist who went about the evacuee shelters administering Sacraments and disrtibuting communion, but only after the person made a confession. There are also the many people who thank God for their lives, and those who breath repentance for their sins because they are about to die. I've heard that is why the Great Deluge was good, because there were "probably" those who, as they ran out of dry land, uttered their repentance before drowning.
Chastisements are scary, but beautiful in that it can effect the salvation of even one soul.
Something I think that Trads also need to realize is that even though we are frustrated and tired, we should stop wishing for a great chastisement. I wished for it, and others here have wished for it over time, but God only kills us as a last resort. To want these things is to lose Hope, which only we are truly capable of having.

MyrnaM · « **Reply #98 on:** September 11, 2017, 09:36:01 AM »

The following is my take on this event since the Bible is a Catholic book the prophecies in it are for Catholics, not man-made religions with their "end-of-the-world/rapture" stuff.

I see two meanings in this prophecy. I imagine it is a sign to signal the conversion of the Jєωs, accepting Jesus Christ, Jupiter the King planet REPRESENTS their Saviour as well as ours, the twelve stars might represent the 12 tribes, also Mary, giving birth to the Saviour and twelve stars the apostles starting with Peter as the head of His Church.
I do think it is also a sign for Catholics to prepare for the physical chastisement. Vatican II is the spiritual chastisement.
This physical chastisement will bring on the conversion of the Israel in my opinion.

One scientist claimed that when Jupiter leaves the womb of the Virgo (September 23rd or so) it goes into a constellation that means the scales of justice, I find that interesting also. However, I forgot the name of the constellation since I am not familiar with the science of universe and its constellations.

That is my understanding of this September 23, nothing will happen THAT DAY and the world will soon forget all about it, Protestants will be disappointed and be confused. The Novus Order will laugh about it, but it does mean something for Traditional Catholics to look forward to in the near future and when September comes and goes, we should not forget the happening, it is not just a coincidence.

cassini · « **Reply #99 on:** September 11, 2017, 01:05:53 PM »

Great posts Student of Q1 and MyrnaM.

MyrnaM, here is a little information on Zodiac:

‘The story which the Zodiac unfolds in the course of the year lies in the meanings of these names given by God to each of the star-clusters [‘Praise the lord: He tells the number of the stars; he calls each by name.' (Psalms 146)] in its forty-eight constellations when He set them in order in the beginning, making of them, as the Psalmist says: “faithful witnesses in heaven” (Ps. 88:38) of His plan for the world… Put in proper order, beginning not with Aries as now deployed, but with Virgo, [Libra, Scorpio, Sagittarius, Pisces, Aries, Taurus, Gemini, Cancer] and ending with Leo rather than with Pisces, the Zodiac foretold in the stars the story of the Incarnation, the Redemption and the world to come long before the Bible was written. Virgo is of course the Blessed Virgin and Leo is Jesus Christ, the Lion of Judah, universal Lord of Creation. (This incidentally, provides the answer to the mystery of the Sphinx which, having the head of a woman and the body and tail of a lion is therefore simply a representation in stone of the ancient Zodiac).’[1]

It will come as no surprise then, in the context of that great battle of principalities and powers resulting from that martial decree of Genesis 3:15, to find occult powers commandeering the Zodiac phenomena and signs for their own needs and to blind humanity to their original purpose of creation. First the sun replaced the Earth at the centre of the Zodiac. The Earthmovers then turned astronomy into astrology, insisting the positions of the sun, moon, stars and wandering stars were Earthly spirits, ghosts and other agents who joined the heavenly angels and all began to influence planetary formations in a manner that, they said, had a direct effect on human behaviour and our destiny depending on where these cosmic bodies are within the Zodiac belt. This way the astrology ‘signs’ became the object of fraud, superstition and the occult, with men and women claiming to read personal prophesies and messages from the ‘gods’ in them. So, just as the signs in the stars were hijacked for diabolical purposes, an astrology that became a useless occult belief system for vast numbers of people throughout the last few thousand years even to this day, so too would God’s astronomy be hijacked and replaced by a heliocentrism that would also be used to serve the occult forces on Earth. The Catholic Church of course, absolutely rejects the idea that the sun, moon or planets could actually influence or predict one’s personal present or future behaviour. The Church teaches that men have free will and that God alone knows the future.

[1]Solange Hertz: The Sixth Trumpet, Remnant Press, Minnesota, 2002, p.11.

happenby · « **Reply #100 on:** September 11, 2017, 05:59:02 PM »

S.Hertz

So, just as the signs in the stars were hijacked for diabolical purposes, an astrology that became a useless occult belief system for vast numbers of people throughout the last few thousand years even to this day, so too would God’s astronomy be hijacked and replaced by a heliocentrism that would also be used to serve the occult forces on Earth

Excellent observation. Earth is not a spinning ball in a heliocentric universe as the atheists of NASA claim. Most of the world has adopted this pagan religion of scientism at the expense of God's Word. Apostasy naturally follows.

Cera · « **Reply #101 on:** September 12, 2017, 04:00:57 PM »

Quote from: RoughAshlar on August 03, 2017, 08:46:26 PM

Just a few points?

1)Don't know where you guys are getting your solar information but this is the first total eclipse of the Sun visible from the contiguous United States (excluding Alaska and Hawaii) since February 26, 1979. The last time a total eclipse was visible from coast to coast was on June 8, 1918.

2)The path of the solar eclipse you are referring to is linked here https://eclipse.gsfc.nasa.gov/SEsearch/SEsearchmap.php?Ecl=-17761130

3) If you have ever visited Yellowstone Park, they will tell you they experience near daily 3.0-4.0 earthquakes. The activity isn't really interesting

4 Nirubu....Wll I'll just copy/paste this off Wikipedia:
The Nibiru cataclysm is a supposed disastrous encounter between the Earth and a large planetary object (either a collision or a near-miss) which certain groups believe will take place in the early 21st century. Believers in this doomsday event usually refer to this object as Planet X or Nibiru. The idea that a planet-sized object will collide with or closely pass by Earth in the near future is not supported by any scientific evidence and has been rejected by astronomers and planetary scientists as pseudoscience and an Internet hoax.^[2]^[3]

The idea was first put forward in 1995 by Nancy Lieder,^[4]^[5] founder of the website ZetaTalk. Lieder describes herself as a contactee with the ability to receive messages from extraterrestrials from the Zeta Reticuli star system through an implant in her brain.

Just a thought, but this doesn't really sound like the second coming.

Wikipedia? Please.

Cera · « **Reply #102 on:** September 12, 2017, 04:04:16 PM »

Quote from: cassini on September 11, 2017, 01:05:53 PM

Great posts Student of Q1 and MyrnaM.

MyrnaM, here is a little information on Zodiac:

‘The story which the Zodiac unfolds in the course of the year lies in the meanings of these names given by God to each of the star-clusters [‘Praise the lord: He tells the number of the stars; he calls each by name.' (Psalms 146)] in its forty-eight constellations when He set them in order in the beginning, making of them, as the Psalmist says: “faithful witnesses in heaven” (Ps. 88:38) of His plan for the world… Put in proper order, beginning not with Aries as now deployed, but with Virgo, [Libra, Scorpio, Sagittarius, Pisces, Aries, Taurus, Gemini, Cancer] and ending with Leo rather than with Pisces, the Zodiac foretold in the stars the story of the Incarnation, the Redemption and the world to come long before the Bible was written. Virgo is of course the Blessed Virgin and Leo is Jesus Christ, the Lion of Judah, universal Lord of Creation. (This incidentally, provides the answer to the mystery of the Sphinx which, having the head of a woman and the body and tail of a lion is therefore simply a representation in stone of the ancient Zodiac).’[1]

It will come as no surprise then, in the context of that great battle of principalities and powers resulting from that martial decree of Genesis 3:15, to find occult powers commandeering the Zodiac phenomena and signs for their own needs and to blind humanity to their original purpose of creation. First the sun replaced the Earth at the centre of the Zodiac. The Earthmovers then turned astronomy into astrology, insisting the positions of the sun, moon, stars and wandering stars were Earthly spirits, ghosts and other agents who joined the heavenly angels and all began to influence planetary formations in a manner that, they said, had a direct effect on human behaviour and our destiny depending on where these cosmic bodies are within the Zodiac belt. This way the astrology ‘signs’ became the object of fraud, superstition and the occult, with men and women claiming to read personal prophesies and messages from the ‘gods’ in them. So, just as the signs in the stars were hijacked for diabolical purposes, an astrology that became a useless occult belief system for vast numbers of people throughout the last few thousand years even to this day, so too would God’s astronomy be hijacked and replaced by a heliocentrism that would also be used to serve the occult forces on Earth. The Catholic Church of course, absolutely rejects the idea that the sun, moon or planets could actually influence or predict one’s personal present or future behaviour. The Church teaches that men have free will and that God alone knows the future.

[1]Solange Hertz: The Sixth Trumpet, Remnant Press, Minnesota, 2002, p.11.

Thank you for posting this. Didn't Solange Hertz also write about Our Lady of Guadalupe and the astronomical signs on the stars of her garment?

Tradplorable · « **Reply #103 on:** September 12, 2017, 09:43:42 PM »

Quote from: Cera on September 12, 2017, 04:04:16 PM

Thank you for posting this. Didn't Solange Hertz also write about Our Lady of Guadalupe and the astronomical signs on the stars of her garment?

Well, Our Lady is standing upon a crescent in that miraculous image, which I would presume to indicate her victory over Islam, since Islam's symbol is a crescent.

Tradplorable · « **Reply #104 on:** September 12, 2017, 10:17:11 PM »

Quote from: LaramieHirsch on August 23, 2017, 11:23:15 AM

I think we can stick a fork in the Nibiru idea.

I disagree.
God works thru physical means to affect His punishments and His miracles.
Example: He used water to Flood the world, He used brimstone to destroy Sodom and Gomorrah. He used mud mixed with His spittle to heal the blind man.
The Book of Apocalypse says the Destroyer is the physical means with which He will destroy the world by fire. Maybe that is what we are referring to as Nibiru. I would say the Great Chastisement will have a physical cause also, maybe a forerunner of the Destroyer.

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