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Offline poche

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Another Police Shooting
« on: January 13, 2015, 01:00:07 AM »
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  • Two police officers in Albuquerque, New Mexico, will face charges for killing a homeless camper, their lawyers say.

    Former detective Keith Sandy and officer Dominique Perez will face a murder charge in the death of James Boyd, 38.

    Their lawyers argued the two will be cleared of wrongdoing.

    The fatal shooting in March last year sparked city protests, some violent, and came amid a federal investigation into the police department's practices.

    A year-long US investigation found Albuquerque police had inappropriately killed suspects and used more force on those with mental illnesses.

    Protests against the city's police department happened before nationwide protests over the shooting deaths of unarmed black men and women by police in various US cities.

    The Albuquerque police department has had more than three dozen police shootings since 2010.

    The justice department ordered the city to reduce the use of deadly force in April, but another woman suspected of stealing a lorry was shot and killed weeks later.

    Boyd was killed in the foothills of the Sandia Mountains on the east side of Albuquerque following a stand-off.

    Protests against Boyd's killing occurred after a video emerged of police shooting him, filmed from a helmet camera.

    In the video, Boyd appears to be surrendering when police shoot a stun grenade at him.

    After the smoke clears, Boyd holds two small knives in his hands and police shoot him several times after yelling at him to get on the ground.

    Police then tell him to put his hands out to the side and drop the knife, to which Boyd replies he can't move.

    Lawyers for Mr Sandy and Mr Perez were confident their clients had done nothing wrong.

    "To the contrary, he followed his training and probably saved his fellow officer's life," said Sam Bregman, Mr Sandy's lawyer.

    Luis Robles, Mr Perez's lawyer, said he was "confident that the facts will vindicate Officer Perez's actions in this case".

    City officials recently signed an agreement with the justice department that requires police to provide better training for officers and dismantle troubled police units.

    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-30783324


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    Another Police Shooting
    « Reply #1 on: January 13, 2015, 02:22:27 AM »
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  • What are you implying with the title of your post " Another Police Shooting" ? do you sympathize with those that protest the recent events that have taken place in the U.S.? The bottom line is this: Every police officer has the right to go home  alive to his wife and children at the end of his shift. He will do a thankless job, spending long hours dealing with as&*holes, violent felons, people who disrespect his authority, criminals, and occasionally`, regular people. If he has to take someones life to accomplish this goal, so be it. When a cop tells you to obey his commands, just do it. His  authority comes from the state. 999 times out of 1000, everybody will go home ( or to jail ) alive.


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    Another Police Shooting
    « Reply #2 on: January 13, 2015, 03:17:08 PM »
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  • Quote from: Sleeplessmedia
    The bottom line is this: Every police officer has the right to go home  alive to his wife and children at the end of his shift. He will do a thankless job, spending long hours dealing with as&*holes, violent felons, people who disrespect his authority, criminals, and occasionally`, regular people. If he has to take someones life to accomplish this goal, so be it. When a cop tells you to obey his commands, just do it. His  authority comes from the state. 999 times out of 1000, everybody will go home ( or to jail ) alive.


    You obviously never watched the video of this particular incident, for if you did watch it, then you would realize the man murdered by police didn't threaten their lives, nor did he impede them in any way from making it home to their families. And if you did watch the video, yet you still posit the man was threatening police, then you are a liar.

    I generally agree with the notion that people should obey police officers' orders, but in this instance, there was absolutely no justification for shooting & killing the man. He was doing nothing wrong. He was minding his own business. He was not threatening police, and he certainly was not attempting to cause physical harm to them.
    Blessed be the Lord my God, who teacheth my hands to fight, and my fingers to war. ~ Psalms 143:1 (Douay-Rheims)

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    Another Police Shooting
    « Reply #3 on: January 22, 2015, 01:07:14 AM »
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  • With the dashboard camera in their cruiser rolling, police pulled a Jaguar over for running a stop sign on a dark night. But things suddenly turned tense when one of the officers warned his partner that he could see a gun in the glove compartment.

    Screaming over and over "Don't you f---ing move!" and "Show me your hands!" at the man in the passenger seat, the officer reached into the car and appeared to remove a silver handgun.

    Then, the passenger, despite being warned repeatedly not to move, stepped out of the Jaguar, his hands raised about shoulder level.

    The officers opened fire, killing him.

    The video of the Dec. 30 killing of Jerame Reid in Bridgeton, a struggling, mostly minority city of 25,000 people just south of Philadelphia, was released this week, raising questions and stirring anger over another death at the hands of police.

    The nearly two-minute deadly standoff came after the killings of black men in New York and Ferguson, Missouri, triggered months of turbulent protests, violence and calls for a re-examination of police use of force.

    Reid and the man driving the car were black. The Bridgeton officer who spotted the gun, Braheme Days, is black; his partner, Roger Worley, is white. Both officers have been placed on leave while prosecutors investigate.

    "The video speaks for itself that at no point was Jerame Reid a threat and he possessed no weapon on his person," Walter Hudson, chairman and founder of the civil rights group the National Awareness Alliance, said Wednesday. "He complied with the officer and the officer shot him."

    A Philadelphia lawyer, Conrad Benedetto, said he has been hired by Reid's wife, Lawanda, to investigate. He said in a statement the footage "raises serious questions as to the legality and/or reasonableness of the officers' actions that night" because Reid was shot as he raised his hands.

    Reid, 36, spent about 13 years in prison for shooting at three state troopers when he was a teenager. And Days knew who he was; Days was among the arresting officers last year when Reid was charged with several crimes, including drug possession and obstruction.

    In Bridgeton, where two-thirds of the residents are black or Hispanic, the killing has stirred small protests over the past couple of weeks, including a demonstration on Wednesday, a day after the video was made public at the request of two newspapers under the state's open records law.

    The cuмberland County prosecutor's office previously said a gun was seized during the stop but would not comment further on the investigation. Bridgeton police would not answer any questions about the video and said they opposed its release as neither "compassionate or professional."

    County prosecutor Jennifer Webb-McRae has disqualified herself from the case because she knows Days. But Lawanda Reid's lawyer and activists are demanding the state attorney general's office take over the investigation, something it said it will not do.

    In the video, the mood changes in a flash when Days tells his partner about the gun and starts yelling, "Show me your hands!" The driver, Leroy Tutt, raises his hands immediately. Reid does not at first.

    Days, still yelling, reaches into the car and appears to remove a gun.

    "I'm going to shoot you," Days shouts, at one point addressing Reid by his first name. "You're going to be f---ing dead. If you reach for something, you're going to be f---ing dead."

    Days tells his partner, "He's reaching for something."

    Faintly on the video, Reid can be heard telling the officer, "I ain't doing nothing. I'm not reaching for nothing, bro. I ain't got no reason to reach for nothing."

    Then one of the men in the car tells the officer, "I'm getting out and getting on the ground."

    The officer again orders Reid not to move. Seconds later, Reid emerges from the car, raising his hands, which appear to be empty. Both officers fire immediately, shooting at least six rounds.

    Bystanders start yelling at the officers, and other emergency vehicles arrive.

    The South Jersey Times reported this week that residents had filed seven municipal court complaints against Days since 2013 and two against Worley in that span for alleged abuses of power; all the complaints were dismissed.

    http://news.yahoo.com/video-shows-man-shot-jersey-police-raising-hands-150049422.html

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    Another Police Shooting
    « Reply #4 on: January 23, 2015, 06:54:44 AM »
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  • Quote from: Nado
    That is not Catholic morality, that is humanist, situation ethics.


    On the contrary law and order for the nation-state is the higest form of morality. Only an anrchist believes otherwise, which is an ideology that is murderous and utopian.


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    Another Police Shooting
    « Reply #5 on: January 23, 2015, 01:03:30 PM »
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  • Quote from: poche
    With the dashboard camera in their cruiser rolling, police pulled a Jaguar over for running a stop sign on a dark night. But things suddenly turned tense when one of the officers warned his partner that he could see a gun in the glove compartment.

    Screaming over and over "Don't you f---ing move!" and "Show me your hands!" at the man in the passenger seat, the officer reached into the car and appeared to remove a silver handgun.

    Then, the passenger, despite being warned repeatedly not to move, stepped out of the Jaguar, his hands raised about shoulder level.

    The officers opened fire, killing him.

    The video of the Dec. 30 killing of Jerame Reid in Bridgeton, a struggling, mostly minority city of 25,000 people just south of Philadelphia, was released this week, raising questions and stirring anger over another death at the hands of police.

    The nearly two-minute deadly standoff came after the killings of black men in New York and Ferguson, Missouri, triggered months of turbulent protests, violence and calls for a re-examination of police use of force.

    Reid and the man driving the car were black. The Bridgeton officer who spotted the gun, Braheme Days, is black; his partner, Roger Worley, is white. Both officers have been placed on leave while prosecutors investigate.

    "The video speaks for itself that at no point was Jerame Reid a threat and he possessed no weapon on his person," Walter Hudson, chairman and founder of the civil rights group the National Awareness Alliance, said Wednesday. "He complied with the officer and the officer shot him."

    A Philadelphia lawyer, Conrad Benedetto, said he has been hired by Reid's wife, Lawanda, to investigate. He said in a statement the footage "raises serious questions as to the legality and/or reasonableness of the officers' actions that night" because Reid was shot as he raised his hands.

    Reid, 36, spent about 13 years in prison for shooting at three state troopers when he was a teenager. And Days knew who he was; Days was among the arresting officers last year when Reid was charged with several crimes, including drug possession and obstruction.

    In Bridgeton, where two-thirds of the residents are black or Hispanic, the killing has stirred small protests over the past couple of weeks, including a demonstration on Wednesday, a day after the video was made public at the request of two newspapers under the state's open records law.

    The cuмberland County prosecutor's office previously said a gun was seized during the stop but would not comment further on the investigation. Bridgeton police would not answer any questions about the video and said they opposed its release as neither "compassionate or professional."

    County prosecutor Jennifer Webb-McRae has disqualified herself from the case because she knows Days. But Lawanda Reid's lawyer and activists are demanding the state attorney general's office take over the investigation, something it said it will not do.

    In the video, the mood changes in a flash when Days tells his partner about the gun and starts yelling, "Show me your hands!" The driver, Leroy Tutt, raises his hands immediately. Reid does not at first.

    Days, still yelling, reaches into the car and appears to remove a gun.

    "I'm going to shoot you," Days shouts, at one point addressing Reid by his first name. "You're going to be f---ing dead. If you reach for something, you're going to be f---ing dead."

    Days tells his partner, "He's reaching for something."

    Faintly on the video, Reid can be heard telling the officer, "I ain't doing nothing. I'm not reaching for nothing, bro. I ain't got no reason to reach for nothing."

    Then one of the men in the car tells the officer, "I'm getting out and getting on the ground."

    The officer again orders Reid not to move. Seconds later, Reid emerges from the car, raising his hands, which appear to be empty. Both officers fire immediately, shooting at least six rounds.

    Bystanders start yelling at the officers, and other emergency vehicles arrive.

    The South Jersey Times reported this week that residents had filed seven municipal court complaints against Days since 2013 and two against Worley in that span for alleged abuses of power; all the complaints were dismissed.

    http://news.yahoo.com/video-shows-man-shot-jersey-police-raising-hands-150049422.html




    Atlantic city press says the suspect had served time for shooting New Jersey State Troopers.


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    Another Police Shooting
    « Reply #6 on: January 23, 2015, 01:11:29 PM »
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  • Also, there is trend of anti police being promoted by liberals and media.
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    Another Police Shooting
    « Reply #7 on: January 23, 2015, 11:02:17 PM »
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    With the dashboard camera in their cruiser rolling, police pulled a Jaguar over for running a stop sign on a dark night. But things suddenly turned tense when one of the officers warned his partner that he could see a gun in the glove compartment.

    Screaming over and over "Don't you f---ing move!" and "Show me your hands!" at the man in the passenger seat, the officer reached into the car and appeared to remove a silver handgun.

    Then, the passenger, despite being warned repeatedly not to move, stepped out of the Jaguar, his hands raised about shoulder level.

    The officers opened fire, killing him.

    The video of the Dec. 30 killing of Jerame Reid in Bridgeton, a struggling, mostly minority city of 25,000 people just south of Philadelphia, was released this week, raising questions and stirring anger over another death at the hands of police.

    The nearly two-minute deadly standoff came after the killings of black men in New York and Ferguson, Missouri, triggered months of turbulent protests, violence and calls for a re-examination of police use of force.

    Reid and the man driving the car were black. The Bridgeton officer who spotted the gun, Braheme Days, is black; his partner, Roger Worley, is white. Both officers have been placed on leave while prosecutors investigate.

    "The video speaks for itself that at no point was Jerame Reid a threat and he possessed no weapon on his person," Walter Hudson, chairman and founder of the civil rights group the National Awareness Alliance, said Wednesday. "He complied with the officer and the officer shot him."

    A Philadelphia lawyer, Conrad Benedetto, said he has been hired by Reid's wife, Lawanda, to investigate. He said in a statement the footage "raises serious questions as to the legality and/or reasonableness of the officers' actions that night" because Reid was shot as he raised his hands.

    Reid, 36, spent about 13 years in prison for shooting at three state troopers when he was a teenager. And Days knew who he was; Days was among the arresting officers last year when Reid was charged with several crimes, including drug possession and obstruction.

    In Bridgeton, where two-thirds of the residents are black or Hispanic, the killing has stirred small protests over the past couple of weeks, including a demonstration on Wednesday, a day after the video was made public at the request of two newspapers under the state's open records law.

    The cuмberland County prosecutor's office previously said a gun was seized during the stop but would not comment further on the investigation. Bridgeton police would not answer any questions about the video and said they opposed its release as neither "compassionate or professional."

    County prosecutor Jennifer Webb-McRae has disqualified herself from the case because she knows Days. But Lawanda Reid's lawyer and activists are demanding the state attorney general's office take over the investigation, something it said it will not do.

    In the video, the mood changes in a flash when Days tells his partner about the gun and starts yelling, "Show me your hands!" The driver, Leroy Tutt, raises his hands immediately. Reid does not at first.

    Days, still yelling, reaches into the car and appears to remove a gun.

    "I'm going to shoot you," Days shouts, at one point addressing Reid by his first name. "You're going to be f---ing dead. If you reach for something, you're going to be f---ing dead."

    Days tells his partner, "He's reaching for something."

    Faintly on the video, Reid can be heard telling the officer, "I ain't doing nothing. I'm not reaching for nothing, bro. I ain't got no reason to reach for nothing."

    Then one of the men in the car tells the officer, "I'm getting out and getting on the ground."

    The officer again orders Reid not to move. Seconds later, Reid emerges from the car, raising his hands, which appear to be empty. Both officers fire immediately, shooting at least six rounds.

    Bystanders start yelling at the officers, and other emergency vehicles arrive.

    The South Jersey Times reported this week that residents had filed seven municipal court complaints against Days since 2013 and two against Worley in that span for alleged abuses of power; all the complaints were dismissed.

    http://news.yahoo.com/video-shows-man-shot-jersey-police-raising-hands-150049422.html




    Atlantic city press says the suspect had served time for shooting New Jersey State Troopers.



    So he should die while with his hands raised in surrender? no trial? no jury?


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    Another Police Shooting
    « Reply #8 on: January 23, 2015, 11:54:51 PM »
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  • I'll be interested to see what the investigation reveals. In the video it appears as though the situation took a turn when the officer found and removed a gun from the vehicle. In a highly agitated state, the officer keeps telling the passenger "not to move" but you can clearly see movement in the vehicle. He opens the door to the vehicle and the man immediately comes out, disobeying the repeated commands of the officer. Having found a gun in the glove compartment combined with failure to follow instructions and refusal to remain still is a huge problem. On that alone, I find it difficult to fault the officer especially considering he hadn't had time to pat the man down.

    In the meantime, I'm glad that it wasn't the white officer who opened fire because I don't feel like listening to another few weeks' worth of news discussions centered on racism.
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