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Offline AnthonyPadua

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Another case of Trad feminism
« on: Yesterday at 03:31:04 PM »
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  • See attached image.

    >Girl prays to God to send a man her way
    >Guy asks girl for number after Church
    >Rejects him and posts online that she was "mortified"
    >Makes another posts claiming it was not the man she wanted it to be
    >Feminist and simps support her while non-feminists call our her

    It's one thing to reject someone your not interested but posting about it online with strong reactions while claiming to be traditional is not charitable, if the guy she rejected sees it, ouch.

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    Re: Another case of Trad feminism
    « Reply #1 on: Yesterday at 03:39:42 PM »
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  • See attached image.

    >Girl prays to God to send a man her way
    >Guy asks girl for number after Church
    >Rejects him and posts online that she was "mortified"
    >Makes another posts claiming it was not the man she wanted it to be
    >Feminist and simps support her while non-feminists call our her

    It's one thing to reject someone your not interested but posting about it online with strong reactions while claiming to be traditional is not charitable, if the guy she rejected sees it, ouch.
    Before anyone comes out claiming she was just nervous. See image 2. People who don't like attention don't post online about their life for everyone to see.


    Offline Ladislaus

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    Re: Another case of Trad feminism
    « Reply #2 on: Yesterday at 03:41:35 PM »
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  • I'm not sure there's enough information here to call her a feminist, but she definitely does seem to be resisting God's will.  Now, she may be, but this scenario doesn't prove it.

    Let's say I'm an unmarried young man.

    I pray for God to send me a wife.
    Some girl comes up to me after Mass and strongly implies she wants to be asked out.
    But ... I just don't like her, for whatever reason ... not very bright, unattractive, personality not my type, think she's a bit crazy, has a "past", etc.
    So then I reject her and say, "well, that's not who I hoped God would send me."

    That doesn't make me the male equivalent of a feminist, some toxically masculine guy ... just that I resisted what I thought might be the will of God for me in favor of my own preferences, and we all do that on a regular basis, and it's called sin.

    At the same time, it COULD just have been concidence also, and not God answering any prayer of mine.  In a sense, I'd be foolhardy, really, to know for sure that it was God's will that I marry this woman at once just because she came my way ... based on some potentially misreading of God's will from the timing of events, almost to the point of thinking it might be superstitious.

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    Re: Another case of Trad feminism
    « Reply #3 on: Yesterday at 03:49:09 PM »
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  • I'm not sure there's enough information here to call her a feminist, but she definitely does seem to be resisting God's will.  Now, she may be, but this scenario doesn't prove it.

    Let's say I'm an unmarried young man.

    I pray for God to send me a wife.
    Some girl comes up to me after Mass and strongly implies she wants to be asked out.
    But ... I just don't like her, for whatever reason ... not very bright, unattractive, personality not my type, think she's a bit crazy, has a "past", etc.
    So then I reject her and say, "well, that's not who I hoped God would send me."

    That doesn't make me the male equivalent of a feminist, some toxically masculine guy ... just that I resisted what I thought might be the will of God for me in favor of my own preferences, and we all do that on a regular basis, and it's called sin.

    At the same time, it COULD just have been concidence also, and not God answering any prayer of mine.  In a sense, I'd be foolhardy, really, to know for sure that it was God's will that I marry this woman at once just because she came my way ... based on some potentially misreading of God's will from the timing of events, almost to the point of thinking it might be superstitious.
    She had another pervious post about she was sad she wouldn't see the same guy who knelt next to her in communion again. So the Pew guy was an issue but the communion guy was not. Really makes you think. The issue is comes to light because she can't resist posting about it online.

    Imagine if a guy posted complaining about an ugly women sitting next to him at mass and mass would be better seeing no women but also happily commenting about an attractive women he saw at the communion rail... The feminists would be all over attacking him and rightly so.

    I don't see why she would complain about men at mass, mass is for God.

    Offline Ladislaus

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    Re: Another case of Trad feminism
    « Reply #4 on: Yesterday at 03:49:47 PM »
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  • Before anyone comes out claiming she was just nervous. See image 2. People who don't like attention don't post online about their life for everyone to see.

    So, one can be arrogant or entitled, without necessarily being a "feminist".

    If a young many went around rejecting young ladies because he thought himself entitled to much more, deriding them as "fat", "ugly", etc. etc. ... he could be just an a-hole, a jerk, but not making that judgment from the standpoint of men vs. women but himself vs. these other "inferiors".

    Same thing here.  She may not be a feminist in principle, but just thinks very highly of herself in general, i.e. not that she's better than or superior to men in general, but just considers CERTAIN men unworthy of her.

    Could just be personal arrogance or pride, vs. a principled feminist one.  Now personal arrogance will often easily transition over into feminism, but isn't necessarily the same thing.


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    Re: Another case of Trad feminism
    « Reply #5 on: Yesterday at 03:57:27 PM »
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  • She had another pervious post about she was sad she wouldn't see the same guy who knelt next to her in communion again. So the Pew guy was an issue but the communion guy was not. Really makes you think. The issue is comes to light because she can't resist posting about it online.

    Imagine if a guy posted complaining about an ugly women sitting next to him at mass and mass would be better seeing no women but also happily commenting about an attractive women he saw at the communion rail... The feminists would be all over attacking him and rightly so.

    I don't see why she would complain about men at mass, mass is for God.

    Yeah, as I said, not necessarily that she felt entitled to a certain feminist role vis-a-vis all men, just like one guy but not another guy.

    As for posting online, if it weren't that, then the women would be blabbering over coffee.  It's well known that when women hang out together, they regularly talk this same kind of trash, even about their own husbands.  Social media just give them a public forum in which to do the same thing.  At least they expose themselves.  If I were a man and knelt near her for Holy Communion and saw her looking and acting all devout, but then saw this crap online, I'd actually thank God for social media that she exposed herself for who she was before we had tied the knot.

    And of course Mass is for God.

    Don't get me wrong ... I'm not condoning this bad behavior.  I just don't think it's necessarily "feminist".  I think she comes across as arrogant, entitled, and extremely uncharitable towards these men in the tone that she adopts (a corollary to her entitlement), and men should run, not walk, but run, as fast as their legs can carry them, away from this woman.  But this is the type of woman who would also deride inferior females, where she'd refuse to allow inferiors into her own superior social circle.

    I just don't think it's NECESSARILY feminist, as I've known men who had the same derisive attitude toward women, but not all women, in principle, just the ones they considered ugly, fat, "whales", etc.

    See, this woman here, MIGHT be perfectly submissive to some male Adonis, her perfect vision of the man whom she deserves, and have no problem with that, in principle ... but then holds the men inferior to her in contempt.

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    Re: Another case of Trad feminism
    « Reply #6 on: Yesterday at 04:16:11 PM »
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  • Before anyone comes out claiming she was just nervous. See image 2. People who don't like attention don't post online about their life for everyone to see.
    .. that one of the many Bruegemanns? lol

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    Re: Another case of Trad feminism
    « Reply #7 on: Yesterday at 04:53:55 PM »
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    I think it was better when I saw no guys at church
    What is this even supposed to mean? :fryingpan::popcorn:
    John 15:19  If you had been of the world, the world would love its own: but because you are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you.


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    Re: Another case of Trad feminism
    « Reply #8 on: Yesterday at 05:07:01 PM »
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  • Keep in mind this girl has her name, age, and multiple pictures of herself on her profile. 7000+ followers. Chances are other people at her chapel (Church? Maybe an indulter) follow her, see her posts. Now people are going to know she was "mortified" having her number asked for by this guy...lucky him! He dodged a bullet, but at what cost!
    John 15:19  If you had been of the world, the world would love its own: but because you are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you.

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    Re: Another case of Trad feminism
    « Reply #9 on: Yesterday at 05:24:41 PM »
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  • I pray for God to send me a wife.



    God sends the man to the woman, not the woman to the man.

    The man is the active agent.

    You should know better Laddy.


    A single man should pray rather that God helps HIM to find her, not for her to find him.

    Offline AnthonyPadua

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    Re: Another case of Trad feminism
    « Reply #10 on: Yesterday at 08:25:04 PM »
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  • What is this even supposed to mean? :fryingpan::popcorn:
    Either he was ugly and it was a problem for her or he was handsome and it was a problem for her. Most likely the first considering her comment on the communion guy.
    Keep in mind this girl has her name, age, and multiple pictures of herself on her profile. 7000+ followers. Chances are other people at her chapel (Church? Maybe an indulter) follow her, see her posts. Now people are going to know she was "mortified" having her number asked for by this guy...lucky him! He dodged a bullet, but at what cost!
    Apparently she's 27... He dodged a massive bullet.


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    Re: Another case of Trad feminism
    « Reply #11 on: Yesterday at 08:29:20 PM »
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  • .. that one of the many Bruegemanns? lol
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    Re: Another case of Trad feminism
    « Reply #12 on: Yesterday at 09:10:09 PM »
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  • Ok, this was a very interesting anecdote.

    First of all, I wouldn't say "feminist" so much as "typical modern woman".

    As I've said many times recently, you can't completely ignore and isolate "modern woman behavior" and the behavior of the Trad girls at your chapel -- as if those women aren't influenced at all by the world, OR as if they are influenced ONLY by pre-Vatican II Catholic books and the sermons of devout Catholic Trad priests. If only!

    No, there IS some crossover. Now I'll admit, we shouldn't assume single Trad ladies pushing 30 are still single for the usual reasons (they were chasing Chad, they can't pair bond anymore, alpha widows, they rode the "carousel" too long, etc.) but that doesn't mean they don't absorb SOME of the culture, tendencies, and habits of the thousands of TYPICAL, MODERN women they interact with on a yearly basis.

    I am not saying that all Trads are worldly. But we must remember that Trads don't exist in a vacuum. The world is all around us. We share a world with the "worldlings". We watch the same movies, listen to the same music, visit the same websites, interact with the same people, watch the same news, etc. It's even worse if you go to the same schools/colleges, and/or have lots of non-Catholics in your friend group. The culture we absorb as 2020's Americans is NOT universal or inevitable. Just go overseas to see just how differently other people see the world, and how they handle daily life. And I'm not talking about the truth/religion either -- I'm talking about other, neutral things.

    Next point: Is this woman truly a Trad? Well, she was found at a Trad chapel. So right there that means you COULD meet women like her at YOUR chapel as well. But at the risk of falling for the "no true Scotsman" fallacy, it IS true that some "Latin Mass" attendees are truly not Traditional Catholic in any measurable way. Does warming a pew for 1 hour every Sunday make you fundamentally different from the rest of the world, a so-called "Traditional Catholic"? I don't think so. NEVERTHELESS, these "not Traditional Catholics" or "Latin mass attendees" are found at chapels all across the country -- so be aware.

    Next point: My main reason for posting this is the HUGE similarity between this behavior, and what I've seen countless times among worldly women on other Social Media platforms (usually TikTok). Just for starters, I'm guessing she's not very Trad, on account of the fact she's on Social Media, complaining about men asking her out, and she has 7,000 followers. That doesn't happen by accident.

    I've studied this a lot, and it's VERY typical for women to make posts like this on Social Media, complaining about guys that asked them out. The usual case is this: the guy wasn't attractive to her. And women can be *very* picky when it comes to physical traits. Let's put it this way: you know the stereotype about men -- how they are superficial, and drool after beautiful women? Modern women are JUST AS BAD, if not more superficial. At least when they're looking for "non-serious fun". Now I sincerely hope that Trad women aren't looking for hookups. But the illusion of overwhelming number of choices, the Disney Princess dream: these are some of the modern trends I think DO bleed somewhat into the Tradosphere. Remember, a lot of these things aren't rational or consciously thought about. Unless a woman is super rational and/or self-aware, she's not going to see it. Self-knowledge isn't common or easy to achieve.

    Social Media (and dating apps, of WHATEVER variety) do something to a woman's mind. Being able to sit there and sift through dozens, hundreds, or thousands of men is NOT natural! The apparently "plentiful" choices overwhelms the mind, and shuts down the rational part of her brain. It reduces men to physical stats and looks, and the whole thing becomes an equation. It brings out one of their dark tendencies: HYPERGAMY.

    Let's put it this way. If we didn't have Media and the Internet (nevermind Social Media and dating sites), women would only have men IN THEIR LOCAL AREA to compare men with. They wouldn't be so damn picky, or impossible to please. And guess what? As a matter of historical fact, they didn't used to be! Even in the 90's things were infinitely better compared to today.
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    Offline AnthonyPadua

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    Re: Another case of Trad feminism
    « Reply #13 on: Today at 01:25:30 AM »
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  • I find it 'interesting' she uses the word "mortified", and calls her sister a witness.



    In essence a man who she wasn't interested in asking for her number was 'death' for her.. rather than appreciate the attempt and be done with it she posts about it online, it's very rude and disrespectful, it takes a lot of courage to ask a girl for her number, not to mention a lot of guys fear asking girls out nowdays due to them posting and mocking/insulting them online... which is what she did. :fryingpan:

    That's really the issue here not that she rejected someone she wasn't interested in.

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    Re: Another case of Trad feminism
    « Reply #14 on: Today at 02:41:14 AM »
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  • See attached image.

    >Girl prays to God to send a man her way
    >Guy asks girl for number after Church
    >Rejects him and posts online that she was "mortified"
    >Makes another posts claiming it was not the man she wanted it to be
    >Feminist and simps support her while non-feminists call our her

    It's one thing to reject someone your not interested but posting about it online with strong reactions while claiming to be traditional is not charitable, if the guy she rejected sees it, ouch.
    I think ‘attention seeking idiot’ would be a more accurate description than ‘trad feminist’. If she doesn’t like the guy she can just not give him her number. Why is she mortified a man wants her number? Weird woman.