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Offline JoeZ

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Re: Angel of Akita speaks to Sr. Sasagawa again after 46-year silence
« Reply #15 on: November 12, 2019, 04:47:30 PM »
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  • "Thanks.  Now hand me a cigarette, that bottle of Jack Daniels and some cotton candy".
    Thumbs up for this quote alone!!!!
    Pray the Holy Rosary.

    Offline Endoplasmic Reticulum

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    Re: Angel of Akita speaks to Sr. Sasagawa again after 46-year silence
    « Reply #16 on: November 12, 2019, 04:53:21 PM »
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  • Just read the Apocalypse of John to know about the end times and, to what the book might be alluding, the chastisement before it.

    Catholics need to read the Bible and not invest in "apparitions" as a compass for discerning the end times.


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    Re: Angel of Akita speaks to Sr. Sasagawa again after 46-year silence
    « Reply #17 on: November 12, 2019, 06:49:28 PM »
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  • By 1973, my guess is that probably 90% of the world was without the True Mass for *at least* a year - but not one single word about it from Akita. Also not one word about the Council, the new "mass", heretical teachings , heretical hierarchy, heretical priests and so on. Repeating the message of Fatima does not make any sense because between 1965 and 1973, the Church was taken over by her enemies, yet not one word about any of that.

    Akita tells us to repent and better ourselves - whatever that means. Are we supposed to go to a NO priest who hears confession in a sports shirt and blue jeans face to face to repent? - only to be told by the NO priest that we have no need of repentance? Or do we repent and better ourselves like the prots and go directly to God?

    In short, as far as Akita is concerned, by all accounts the conciliar church is the Catholic Church - which is enough for me to reject Akita as a fraud.

    You are being deliberately obtuse. Not locution or apparition ever addressed every ill in the Church from apostasy to ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity to heresy to blasphemy to the bad council to bad popes and idolatry and every single other thing that somebody could conceivably dangle from their hand and say "See, this was never mentioned, so the locution or apparition must be bogus." What idiocy!
    "Church-approved" apparitions, even prior to 1958, have never been considered de fide. But if Our Lady is trying to tell us something, it would be a good idea to not reject it out of hand because of sloppy reasoning.
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    Re: Angel of Akita speaks to Sr. Sasagawa again after 46-year silence
    « Reply #18 on: November 12, 2019, 06:51:51 PM »
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  • Just read the Apocalypse of John to know about the end times and, to what the book might be alluding, the chastisement before it.

    Catholics need to read the Bible and not invest in "apparitions" as a compass for discerning the end times.
    Sorry buddy, but sola scriptura is a Protestant heresy.
    "Let us thank God for having called us to His holy faith. It is a great gift, and the number of those who thank God for it is small."
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    Re: Angel of Akita speaks to Sr. Sasagawa again after 46-year silence
    « Reply #19 on: November 12, 2019, 06:56:05 PM »
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  • Honestly, I pray more than some people and try not to sin, though I do not fast enough, but sometimes I try. But for some reason I do not believe in Akita. I will not go out of my way to oppose it or try to argue people against believing in it, but I will believe it when I see the first balls of fire falling from the sky.
    R.I.P.
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    Re: Angel of Akita speaks to Sr. Sasagawa again after 46-year silence
    « Reply #20 on: November 12, 2019, 08:22:15 PM »
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    Sorry buddy, but sola scriptura is a Protestant heresy.

    Sorry buddy, but your strawman argument is illogical.

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    Re: Angel of Akita speaks to Sr. Sasagawa again after 46-year silence
    « Reply #21 on: November 12, 2019, 08:39:39 PM »
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    Thank God for Saintly Sister Agnes Sasagawa, probably one of the holiest souls today.
    Whoa now, Xavier.  I thought +Fellay was the holiest person of our times, because he walked down a church aisle with an injured foot?  :laugh2:

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    Re: Angel of Akita speaks to Sr. Sasagawa again after 46-year silence
    « Reply #22 on: November 12, 2019, 08:46:25 PM »
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  • Sorry buddy, but your strawman argument is illogical.
    So you're the moron that's been downvoting every post of mine.
    Maybe you need to learn what a straw man argument is before you start flinging the term around. You're just embarrassing yourself.
    "Let us thank God for having called us to His holy faith. It is a great gift, and the number of those who thank God for it is small."
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    Re: Angel of Akita speaks to Sr. Sasagawa again after 46-year silence
    « Reply #23 on: November 12, 2019, 10:08:15 PM »
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    So you're the moron that's been downvoting every post of mine.
    Maybe you need to learn what a straw man argument is before you start flinging the term around. You're just embarrassing yourself.

    Says the guy who doesn't know the meaning of strawman argument, and doesn't realize he's illogically using it to argue. You just embarrassed yourself (again).

    And how can I downvote your comment when I'm unable to vote due to being a new member? You just embarrassed yourself a third time. Have a good night, Mr. Strawman. 

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    Re: Angel of Akita speaks to Sr. Sasagawa again after 46-year silence
    « Reply #24 on: November 13, 2019, 06:13:55 AM »
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  • You are being deliberately obtuse. Not locution or apparition ever addressed every ill in the Church from apostasy to ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity to heresy to blasphemy to the bad council to bad popes and idolatry and every single other thing that somebody could conceivably dangle from their hand and say "See, this was never mentioned, so the locution or apparition must be bogus." What idiocy!
    "Church-approved" apparitions, even prior to 1958, have never been considered de fide. But if Our Lady is trying to tell us something, it would be a good idea to not reject it out of hand because of sloppy reasoning.
    Sorry MMD, but the NO approval of Akita to me is the first evidence against it. What exactly is Our Lady trying to tell us at Akita anyway? Certainly She is not trying to tell us to avoid the NO to keep the faith.

    From your link in the OP: "That angel said, “No. I am who protects you”.  Then the angel guided Sr. Agnes, “Let’s go to the chapel.”  All the pictures I can find online of the chapel, show the inside of the chapel, the sanctuary in particular, is obviously NO.

    Now you can feel free to blow it off as idiocy if that's what you want to do, but Our Blessed Mother would never have a protecting angel guide one of Her children into a NO chapel - as if it is Catholic.  
    "But Peter and the apostles answering, said: We ought to obey God, rather than men." - Acts 5:29

    The Highest Principle in the Church: "We are first of all under obedience to God, and only then under obedience to man" - Fr. Hesse

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    Re: Angel of Akita speaks to Sr. Sasagawa again after 46-year silence
    « Reply #25 on: November 13, 2019, 06:52:21 AM »
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  • She is 88.  Is it not possible she is senile?  Plenty of people are losing their marbles at that age.

    Since we don't get any useful information and what we get comes through an anonymous nun how are we any better off for this new titbit of div8be revelation?  Fire will still fall from the sky and wipe out the greater part of humanity and the survivors will envy the dead.

    I am saying the Rosary anyway, have been for years.  Cover myself with ashes?  Highly impractical since I have a full time job.

    Are we supposed to wear these ashes daily, weekly till the end of the year?   How many pounds of ashes do I need to order from eBay?  What if I run out?  Will ashes created by the fireballs suffice?

    Why am I even trying to survive this?  I'd rather pity the living.  There's no moral duty to avoid the fireballs, and no information telling one how to dodge them.  So why go out of my way to do that if I end up envying the dead?  Dying is the best option.



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    Re: Angel of Akita speaks to Sr. Sasagawa again after 46-year silence
    « Reply #26 on: November 13, 2019, 08:19:34 AM »
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  • I have noticed a flaw here.

    The allegedly miraculous statue at Akita, Japan was that of Our Lady of all Nations in Holland.  This would strongly imply that if Akita was real, then Our Lady of all Nations was real too.  Since it would be utterly preposterous that Our Lady would use a statue of a false vision to work a miracle proving a real apparition.

    http://unveilingtheapocalypse.blogspot.com/2012/03/ida-peerdeman-and-prophecies-of-our.html

    http://ourlady3.tripod.com/LadyofNations.htm

    There are a lot of errors in the predictions of Ida Peerdeman, but notwithstanding those, they each predict a DIFFERENT method of chastising the world.

    Ida Peerdeman says floods will be the instrument of the chastisement and Sister Sasagawa says fire.

    Which is it?  Did God change his mind about the method in the 1960s?

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    Re: Angel of Akita speaks to Sr. Sasagawa again after 46-year silence
    « Reply #27 on: November 13, 2019, 08:22:25 AM »
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  • Seems obvious that Akita has more than enough red flags to be suspicious of the whole thing. Not sure why some people are eager to completely disregard them.
    "But Peter and the apostles answering, said: We ought to obey God, rather than men." - Acts 5:29

    The Highest Principle in the Church: "We are first of all under obedience to God, and only then under obedience to man" - Fr. Hesse

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    Re: Angel of Akita speaks to Sr. Sasagawa again after 46-year silence
    « Reply #28 on: November 13, 2019, 11:21:56 AM »
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  • But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach a gospel to you besides that which we have preached to you, let him be anathema.
    - Galatians 1:8

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    Re: Angel of Akita speaks to Sr. Sasagawa again after 46-year silence
    « Reply #29 on: November 13, 2019, 03:27:22 PM »
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  • Can an apparition message like Akita ever be falsified?

    There is no date attached.  The nun Sister Sasagawa who made the claim 46 years ago did not say she needed to be alive when the event happened.

    If God punishes the world in another way, say a virus, or the greater part of humanity are not killed, assume 100 million die or the Church slowly recovers over the next 150 years, then can we say Akita was false?  Or can it be dug up again in the year 2456 when Pope John Paul XI is fighting Cardinal Wong and the all sorts of abominations we know today return plus human animal clones?

    If it cannot be reused why not?  What expires it or exposes it as false?

    Prophecies are very pliable if they don't suggest dates and times.  The prophet never has to face the music in this life.