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I wanted to start this thread that would contain various posts in the past that pertained to the Three Days of Darkness.
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This was from Pravoslavni in a 2007 post. (http://www.cathinfo.com/index.php?a=topic&t=3874)
Pravoslavni:
Here are some prohpecies regarding the Three Days of Darkness, and an article by an astronomer, who like some other scientists believe that something catastrophic (sounds like the 3 Days to me) could take place on earth on Dec. 21, 2012.
Prophecy of Blessed Tomasuccio de Foligno c. 1319-1377 A.D.
"By about twelve years shall the millennium have passed when the resplendent mantle of legitimate power shall emerge from the shadows where it was being kept by the schism. And beyond harm from the one who is blocking the door of salvation, for his deceitful schism shall have come to an end."
The schism between the Catholic Church and the Vatican II sect shall come to an end in 2012, according to Blessed Tomasuccio
It is also interesting to note the Prophecy of Blessed Anna Maria Taigi (1769-1837 A.D.):
"After the three days of darkness, St. Peter and St. Paul, having come down from Heaven, will preach in the whole world and designate a new Pope. A great light will flash from their bodies and will settle upon the cardinal who is to become Pope. Christianity, then, will spread throughout the world. He is the Holy Pontiff, chosen by God to withstand the storm. At the end, he will have the gift of miracles, and his name shall be praised over the whole earth. Whole nations will come back to the Church and the face of the earth will be renewed. Russia, England, and China will come into the Church."
If 2012 is indeed the time of the Three Days, it perfectly explains the crisis that the Church has undergone since VII, and it gives some information as to when the legitimate VISIBLE hierarchy of the Catholic Chuch will be restored.
Here is the astronomer's article:
http://survive2012.com/geryl1.php
Author: Patrick Geryl
Pole Shift & Pole Reversal in 2012
In 2012 the next polar reversal will take place on earth. This means that the North Pole will be changed into the South Pole. Scientifically this can only be explained by the fact that the earth will start rotating in the opposite direction, together with a huge disaster of unknown proportions.
In my books I reveal the immense cataclysm that is going to torment the earth in the near future. It is presently assumed by most people and the general scientific world at large, that the rotation of the Earth is stable, however, as expounded in my previous works on this subject, this is not the case. The gruesome reports of the previous catastrophes should, hopefully, be clear to all.
The historical exploration of cosmology in previous books is founded on the translation of hieroglyphs, cracking of codes, unveiling of the magnetic reversal of the sun, study of old maps, decoding of astronomical clues, geological research, and the discovery of the most exciting archaeological find in modern times.
Considering these I came to the following conclusions:
1. With clock-like regularity, sudden reversals and pole shifts are natural to the Earth. The result is worldwide destruction, and is supported by paleo-magnetic evidence and early manuscripts.
2. The reversal of the poles is attributed to the harmonic cycle of the magnetic fields of the sun.
3. Polar reversals can be calculated precisely on the basis of the sunspot cycle theory or the magnetic field theory, which the Maya and the Old Egyptians were privy to. These secrets are contained in the Labyrinth of Hawara, a huge complex consisting of three thousand rooms.
I explained abundantly clearly that life after a polar reversal is nothing but horror, pure unimaginable horror. All securities you presently have at hand, like - amongst others - food, transport, and medicines, will have disappeared in one big blow, dissolved into nothingness. As will our complete civilization. It cannot be more horrifying than this; worse than the worst nightmare. More destructive than a nuclear war in which the entire global arsenal of nuclear weapons has been deployed in one blow. Are you grasping the facts?
The earth will be subjected to total destruction. It will be many times worse than my description. Terrible hunger, cold and pain, and more will rule your daily life: without hope of a quick recovery, because all knowledge and resources will have been completely destroyed. That will be the reality of your daily life after the forthcoming polar reversal. And it is in this scenario you will have to try to survive.
The Riddle of the Magnetic Field Solved
At present scientists still do not know much about the mechanism that generates the magnetic field of the earth, which is more than frightening. Without doubt, our continued existence depends upon this. Thousands of years ago our ancestors knew that when this magnetic field tilts, a worldwide destruction takes place. The present geologists, astronomers and physicists know little about this. For that reason we are running towards our end, without a single acknowledgement from official sources.
So, what do our professors indeed know? Next to nothing. In short, the scenario is as follows: a solid central core rotates in the center of the earth. It is surrounded by a liquid iron-like layer, on top of which the earth's crust is continuously drifting. This whole structure therefore appears to be a huge rotating dynamo. In addition, the liquid layer rotates in the electrostatic field of the sun, recharging itself.
However, this is not at all efficient: more electrical potential is lost than gained. Just like a battery that is almost empty, it is difficult to recharge and it becomes exhausted more easily and quickly. This is the situation with the "battery" of the magnetic field of the earth. For this reason one sees the force of the magnetic field diminishing, almost 60% over the last two thousand years.
At this rate there will not be much left within a couple of decades! And then one can expect a reversal of the poles. But nobody knows in what way this will happen, nor what the consequences will be, in contrast to the Maya and the Old Egyptians who knew the terrible consequences only too well. Their science, their religion and way of life were completely based on them. They encoded their knowledge in Holy Numbers and in their architecture.
I needed days, weeks, months and years to follow their carefully applied clues and decode them. After an exasperatingly long search, I found out that these codes were connected with the catastrophic events on earth that were caused by pole shifts. Some of the codes were terribly complicated, although not incomprehensible. Once you have figured out the cipher, you are able to decipher the different levels of their scientific language. Then you can literally peel away layer after layer until you reach the ultimate result: the naked scientific figures regarding the background of these catastrophes.
Unknown Sunspot Cycle Theory Gives the Answer
The answers to these questions are alarming and devastating. All my deciphering points to a complex and ingenious science. Let me explain. When you, as a scientist, stumble upon results that the present astronomers do not know, you have, without doubt, stumbled upon something terribly important. Everybody will have to admit it, and that is exactly what I have done: I discovered an echo of a long-lost technological terminology; a majestic building with immensely sophisticated keys. Many numbers were based on the sunspot cycle, which they had discovered. A theory that is irrefutably correct and not known by our physicists! It cannot be more alarming!
This theory, in turn, correlates with the periodical polar reversals of the earth. I succeeded in cracking the whole puzzle and a large-scale structure appeared. Its development was such that the mathematical matrix ends on the day of the next polar reversal!
Just like the way we count down to the launching of a rocket, they counted down to the End of Times. On the last day of the calendar the magnetic north of the earth will change into the south. They knew this would not only mean the end of their civilization, but also of the whole civilized world!
Solar Lightning Causes the Polar Reversal
From legends and the sunspot cycle theory of the Maya, we can reconstruct the cause of a polar reversal. It has long been known that when a beam of lightning strikes a magnet, a reversal of the magnetic poles takes place. Let's apply this principle on a broader scale.
Our earth is a huge magnet, with its own North and South Poles. A short-circuit with another external "beam of lightning,” or magnet, can end in a catastrophic polar reversal. This means that the magnetic North Pole changes place with the magnetic South Pole. But what sort of external beam can cause this? What force is powerful enough to stop the rotation of the earth and revert it?
Only one object can cause this: our sun. You know from my book, The OrionProphecy that the magnetic field of the sun undergoes a drastic change every 11,500 to 12,000 years. Once a crucial point has been reached, it reverses instantaneously. Chaotic outbursts accompany this phenomenon and an immense cloud of plasma is catapulted into space. Then a shock wave of particles reaches our planet and the polar reversal of our earth commences.
With unknown power this solar lightning strikes our planet and causes a gigantic short circuit. That is the catastrophic truth behind a polar reversal of the earth. But how can we scientifically describe this fact? What is the precise physical cause that produces this polar reversal?
Solar Storms Cause the Pole Shift
In the book Earth under Fire I came upon the correct theory. More precisely, in the chapter entitled "Solar Storms and Geomagnetic Flips." The astronomer Paul La Violette writes “Field flips have been accomplished experimentally, by shooting large quantities of loaded particles on a strong bipolar magnet. These particles are then caught in the magnetic fields and cause a "ring-stream" in them. At a certain moment this stream speeds up to such an extent that the field of the magnet reverses completely.”
In an equivalent scenario the field of the earth can reverse in just the same way. Astronomers know that the particles of a solar storm can compress the earth's magnetic field and temporarily speed up the power of the earth's field.
When the solar particles reach our planet, the electromagnetically-loaded particles will move in a spiral along the magnetic lines: from the magnetic north pole to the magnetic south pole and back. While passing this north-south axis, they will move into the direction of the equator. When they arrive there, they will join into a super powerful "ring current."
This "ring current" generates an intense magnetic field that is opposite to the earth's magnetic field. In order to overpower the earth's magnetic field you need a solar flame a hundred times more forceful than the biggest one we have ever seen. At the reversal of the magnetic field of the sun this degree will certainly be reached.
From here on, my point of view deviates from that expressed by Paul La Violette. Not only will the poles reverse, but also the earth will begin to rotate in the opposite direction! This can only occur when the "ring current" pushes the inner core of the earth in the opposite direction.
Everybody knows that when you change the poles of an electric motor, it will start turning the other way. The same holds for the interior of the earth. When an external short circuit takes place, the core cannot do otherwise but start turning in the opposite direction!
Destruction & Renewed Life
This catastrophe will not only result in the massive destruction of life on earth, but also its continued existence, however incomprehensible this may sound. Let me explain this.
The magnetic field of the earth is not an accident of natural science. Its primary task is to protect us against cosmic and solar radiation. Without this field, life is practically impossible and in a short time, life on our planet would be extinguished. An all-burning, deadly radioactive radiation would torment the earth's surface.
So here we are talking about an incompatible duality: despite the fact that a huge amount of people, animals and plants will die, life will continue to exist, because the exhausted battery of the earth will be reloaded by the enormous solar storm. During thousands of years the magnetic field of the earth can therefore remain stable, protecting the flora and fauna against the damaging radiation. While doing this job, the inner battery of the earth will run out again and another cycle of destruction followed by creation and mutation will start anew.
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OP (Mathhew):
Padre Pio and the Three Days of Darkness
From translation of a copy of a personal letter written by Padre Pio addressed to the Commission of Heroldsbach appointed by the Vatican that testifies to the truth and reality of these revelations on the Three Days of Darkness given by Our Lord to Padre Pio, a Capuchin priest who bore the stigmata.
JANUARY 28, 1950
Keep your windows well covered. Do not look out. Light a blessed candle, which will suffice for many days. Pray the rosary. Read spiritual books. Make acts of Spiritual Communion, also acts of love, which are so pleasing to Us. Pray with outstretched arms, or prostrate on the ground, in order that many souls may be saved. Do not go outside the house. Provide yourself with sufficient food. The powers of nature shall be moved and a rain of fire shall make people tremble with fear. Have courage! I am in the midst of you.
FEBRUARY 7, 1950
Take care of the animals during these days. I am the Creator and Preserver of all animals as well as man. I shall give you a Few signs beforehand, at which time you should place more food before them. I will preserve the property of the elect, including the animals, for they shall be in need of sustenance afterwards as well. Let no one go across the yard, even to feed the animals--he who steps outside will perish! Cover your windows carefully. My elect shall not see My wrath. Have confidence in Me, and I will be your protection. Your confidence obliges Me to come to your aid.
The hour of My coming is near! But I will show mercy. A most dreadful punishment will bear witness to the times. My angels, who are to be the executioners of this work, are ready with their pointed swords! They will take special care to annihilate all those who mocked Me and would not believe in My revelations.
Hurricanes of fire will pour forth from the clouds and spread over the entire earth! Storms, bad weather, thunderbolts and earthquakes will cover the earth for two days. An uninterrupted rain of fire will take place! It will begin during a very cold night. All this is to prove that God is the Master of Creation. Those who hope in Me, and believe in my words, have nothing to fear because I will not forsake them, nor those who spread My message. No harm will come to those who are in the state of grace and who seek My mother's protection.
That you may be prepared for these visitations, I will give you the following signs and instructions: The night will be very cold. The wind will roar. After a time, thunderbolts will be heard. Lock all the doors and windows. Talk to no one outside the house. Kneel down before a crucifix, be sorry for your sins, and beg My Mother's protection. Do not look during the earthquake, because the anger of God is holy! Jesus does not want us to behold the anger of God, because God's anger must be contemplated with fear and trembling.
Those who disregard this advice will be killed instantly. The wind will carry with it poisonous gases which will be diffused over the entire earth. Those who suffer and die innocently will be martyrs and they will be with Me in My Kingdom.
Satan will triumph! But after three nights, the earthquake and fire will cease. On the following day the sun will shine again. angels will descend from Heaven and will spread the spirit of peace over the earth. A feeling of immeasurable gratitude will take possession of those who survive this terrible ordeal-the impending punishment-with which God has visited the earth since creation.
I have chosen souls in other countries too, such as Belgium, Switzerland. Spain, who have received these revelations so that other countries also may be prepared. Pray much during this Holy Year of 1950. Pray the Rosary, but pray it well, so that your prayers may reach Heaven. Soon a more terrible catastrophe shall come upon the entire world, such as never before has been witnessed, a terrible chastisement never before experienced! The war of 1950 shall be the introduction to these things.
How unconcerned men are regarding these things! which shall so soon come upon them, contrary to all expectations. How indifferent they are in preparing themselves for these unheard of events, through which they will have to pass so shortly!
The weight of the Divine balance has reached the earth! The wrath of My Father shall be poured out over the entire world! I am again warning the world through your instrumentality, as I have so often done heretofore.
The sins of men have multiplied beyond measure: Irreverence in Church, sinful pride committed in sham religious activities, lack of true brotherly love, indecency in dress, especially at summer seasons...The world is filled with iniquity.
This catastrophe shall come upon the earth like a flash of lightning at which moment the light of the morning sun shall be replaced by black darkness! No one shall leave the house or look out of a window from that moment on. I Myself shall come amidst thunder and lightning. The wicked shall behold My Divine Heart. There shall be great confusion because of this utter darkness in which the entire earth shall be enveloped, and many, many shall die from fear and despair.
Those who shall fight for My cause shall receive grace from My Divine Heart; and the cry: "WHO IS LIKE UNTO GOD!" shall serve as a means of protection to many. However, many shall burn in the open fields like withered grass! The godless shall be annihilated, so that afterwards the just shall be able to stand afresh.
On the day, as soon as complete darkness has set in, no one shall leave the house or look from out of the window. The darkness shall last a day and a night, followed by another day and a night, and another day--but on the night following, the stars will shine again, and on the next morning the sun shall rise again, and it will be SPRINGTIME!!
In the days of darkness, My elect shall not sleep, as did the disciples in the garden of olives. They, shall pray incessantly, and they shall not be disappointed in Me. I shall gather My elect. Hell will believe itself to be in possession of the entire earth, but I shall reclaim it!
Do you, perhaps, think that I would permit My Father to have such terrible chastisements come upon the world, if the world would turn from iniquity to justice? But because of My great love, these afflictions shall be permitted to come upon man. Although many shall curse Me, yet thousands of souls shall be saved through them. No human understanding can fathom the depth of My love!
Pray! Pray! I desire your prayers. My Dear Mother Mary, Saint Joseph, Saint Elizabeth, Saint Conrad, Saint Michael. Saint Peter, the Little Therese, Your Holy Angels, shall be your intercessors. Implore their aid! Be courageous soldiers of Christ! At the return of light, let everyone give thanks to the Holy Trinity for Their
protection! The devastation shall be very great! But I, Your God, will have purified the earth. I am with you. Have confidence!
(Here ends Padre Pio's Message)
Home spared in Hiroshima, Japan . . .
There is connection between atomic explosion in Hiroshima, Japan and events in Fatima, because one group of Jesuits survived this explosion without any scratch and they lived right in the middle of Hiroshima where was center of explosion. Even theirs animals and grass on land was protected. Scientists were not able to find answer on this but theologians did: "They lived the Message of Fatima".
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Another Matt OP:
The Three Days of Darkness
by Yves Dupont
THE ACT OF GOD
The most spectacular aspect of the Act of God will be the three days of darkness over the whole earth. The Three Days have been announced by many mystics, viz., Bl.Anna-Maria Taigi, Padre Pio, Elizabeth Canori-Mora, Rosa-Colomba Asdente, Palma d'Oria, in Italy; Father Nectou, in Belgium; St. Hildegard, in Germany; Pere Lamy, Marie Baourdi, Marie Martel, Marie-Julie Jahenny, in France. (This list is not exhaustive; many more mystics have announced the Three Days.)
The Church does not oblige us to believe in any particular prophecy as a matter of faith, but we are indeed obliged to believe that prophecies may be made even in our own times, for this is in the Gospel: the Holy Ghost will speak to many in the Latter Days.
Moreover, when an identical prophecy has been made by widely separated people in time and space, when this particular prophecy was accompanied by other predictions which have already come to pass, and when the holiness of the mystics in question has been recognized by the Church, we would be foolish indeed not to believe that the prophecy must come to pass. Such is the case concerning the Three Days of Darkness. How else could we explain that an illiterate peasant woman of Brittany is describing the very thing that another mystic in, say, Germany or Italy is also describing?
THE PROXIMATE SIGNS
Here are the proximate signs in their probable order of occurrence. This, to be sure, is only my own opinion, and I may be wrong for I am no prophet myself; but, after studying a large number of prophecies, this order appears to me to be the most likely:
1. Flouting of church laws, irreverence and immodesty in church, fall in attendance at church.
2. Lack of charity towards others, heartlessness, indifference, divisions, contentions, godlessness, pride in human knowledge.
3. Breakdown of family life: immorality, adultery, perversion of youth (e.g. ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖs giving lectures in schools), immodest fashions (e.g. mini-skirts and hot pants, bikinis and see-throughs), people concerned only with eating, drinking, dancing and other pleasures.
4. Civil commotions, contempt for authority, downfall of governments, confusion in high places, corruption, coups d'etat, cινιℓ ωαr, revolution. (The first four proximate signs have already come to pass, at least partly; for we are yet to see cινιℓ ωαr and revolution in the West. But the sequence of events is not strictly chronological; there is room for some overlapping. Thus, the 5th proximate sign seems to have begun also.)
5. Floods and droughts, crop failures, unusual weather, tornadoes, earthquakes, tidal waves, famines, epidemics, unknown diseases (e.g. new strains of viruses).
THE WARNING AND THE MIRACLE
These will take place between the proximate and the immediate signs. Both will be supernatural occurrences, and the Miracle will closely follow the Warning. There will be a solar prodigy; a Cross will be visible in the sky all over the world. The Warning will be associated with the letter "A"; it will not fall on a Feast day of Our Lady, nor on the l8th of the month.
The Miracle will fall on the Feast day of a young martyr of the Eucharist; this will be on a Thursday evening, and it will coincide with an important Church event.
Since the Miracle is to be seen only in Northern Spain and in Rome, and since the Cross in the sky is to be seen everywhere, it seems that the latter occurrence will take place with the Warning, not with the Miracle. However, the Miracle may also have a Cross in the sky.
During the Warning, everyone will be made aware of his/her own sinfulness, and many will wish to die, but the Warning itself will be completely harmless.
Both the Warning and the Miracle must be viewed as the last act of mercy from God, a final appeal to mankind to do penance before the three days of darkness and the destruction of three-quarters of the human race. At a time when the murder of unborn babies and the sin of Sodom and Lesbos have become respectable and sometimes legal, we should not wonder why God is going to punish mankind.
By that time, war and revolution will have already caused a high deathtoll, and Communism will be victorious, but all this will be as nothing compared with the deathtoll caused by the Three Days.
THE IMMEDIATE SIGN
It will be a bitterly cold winter night in the Northern hemisphere. (Presumably, a very cold summer night in Australia or, by contrast, a torrid night.) The wind will howl and roar. Lightning and thunderbolts of an unprecedented magnitude will strike the earth. The whole earth will shake, heavenly bodies will be disturbed – (this will be the beginning of the Three Days). Every Demon, every evil spirit will be released from hell and allowed to roam the earth. Terrifying apparitions will take place. Many will die from sheer fright. Fire will rain forth from the sky, all large cities will be destroyed, poisonous gases will fill the air, cries and lamentations everywhere. The unbelievers will burn in the open like withered grass. The entire earth will be afflicted; it will look like a huge graveyard.
As soon as you notice that bitterly cold night, go indoors, lock all doors and windows, pull down the blinds, stick adhesive paper on vents and around windows and doors. Do not answer calls from outside, do not look at the windows, or you will die on the spot: keep your eyes down to make sure you do not see the windows; the Wrath of God is mighty and no one should attempt to behold it. Light blessed wax candles; nothing else will burn, but the candles will not be extinguished once lit. Nothing will put them out in the houses of the faithful, but they will not burn in the houses of the godless. Sprinkle holy water about the house and especially in the vicinity of doors and windows: the devils fear holy water. Bless yourself with it and anoint your five senses with it: eyes, ears, nose, mouth, hands, feet, and forehead. Keep on hand a sufficient supply of drinking water and, if possible, food also (but you can live without food for three days.) Kneel down and pray incessantly with outstretched arms, or prostrate on the floor. Make acts of contrition, faith, hope, and charity. Above all say the Rosary and meditate on the Sorrowful mysteries.
Some people, especially children, will be taken up to Heaven beforehand to spare them the horror of these days. People caught outdoors will die instantly. Three-quarters of the human race will be exterminated, – more men than women. No one will escape the terror of these days.
But, when all seems lost and hopeless, then, in the twinkling of an eye, the ordeal will be over: the sun will rise and shine again as in springtime over a purified earth.
Some nations will disappear entirely, and the face of the earth will be changed. There will be no more "Big Business" and huge factories which sap men's souls. Craftsmanship will revive, and assembly lines will give way to the working bench.
People will return to the land, but food will be scarce for about three years. Married women will bear many children, for it will be regarded as a disgrace not to have children, – no more "career women" addicted to the "pill". Unmarried females, – there will be many, will enter the religious orders and form large congregations of Nuns within the reborn Church. Disease will decrease dramatically, and mental illnesses will be rare, for man will have retrieved his natural environment. It will be an age of faith, true brotherhood between neighbors, civil harmony, peace, and prosperity. The land will yield crops as never before. Police will have little work to do: crime will disappear almost entirely. Mutual trust and honesty will be universal. There will be little work for lawyers, either. All the manpower which is currently taken up by the wickedness of the modern world will be released and available for the production of useful commodities. Thus, prosperity will be very great. This wonderful period will probably last 30 years approximately.
As soon as you see the sun rise again at the end of the Three Days, drop to your knees and give thanks to God.
Be warned, SPREAD THE MESSAGE, but do not fear: it would be an offense to God to show lack of confidence in His protection. Those who spread the message will be protected, but the scoffers, the skeptics, and those who dismiss the message because they are frightened, will not escape the chastisement.
WHAT TO DO NOW
SPREAD THE MESSAGE; do not be put out by those who laugh it off or think you are a bit odd. This is the price we have to pay, for no disciple of Christ can escape scorn or even persecution. Remain in the state of grace. Go to Mass, and regularly receive Holy Communion. Say your rosary every day. Obtain some wax candles and have these blessed by a Traditionalist priest. Do not buy ordinary white candles; they are not made of wax. Do not trust either a "new-breed" priest to bless your candles. Pray for the Church and for the Pope in particular; it is not for us to judge the Pope, no matter what he does or says, – this is God's prerogative, but we must pray for him. Say the prayer to St. Michael which Leo XIII composed after witnessing a terrifying vision of Satan's power. Wear the Brown Scapular and the miraculous medal. Deny yourself some legitimate pleasures and entertainment; many seers insist on this. Eat sparingly, frugally, to sustain life more than to gratify the palate. When the proximate signs are over, i.e., war and revolution culminating in the victory of communism, when you behold the Warning, then store up food, drinking water, blankets and other necessities.
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Fascinating info so far. Thank you for posting this.
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Is this a redundant effort? Hasn't there already been a 3 Days thread that attempted to aggregate everything?
I think it's a great idea, but I believe this has been done?
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Recognizing that there is uncertainty about the scientific dating processes, I still wonder if there is any evidence suggesting how quickly past polar reversals occurred. 3 days?
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The Warning and Miracle are from the Garabandal prophecies. The final incident to be mentioned in Garabandal is the Chastisement. The Three Days of Darkness are not mentioned by name in the Garabandal prophecies. If the Chastisement and the Three Days are the same event, and that event is to occur in December this year, then we ought to be expecting the Warning very soon.
There has been speculation that, if true, the Warning will be insufficient to change the hearts of most people, or at least there will still be many evil people. The people who will not repent after the warning might even become more depraved than they are now.
Can this all happen yet this year??
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I am an archaeologist and I the magnetic reversals or pole shifts are recorded. They are recorded in lava flows where the orientation of the north pole was preserved as the lava cooled.
I have no idea about the consequences of a pole shift could be, other than the obvious. There are even theories that state the mantle could shift or move under the floating skin of the solid part of the earth related to the earth's surface.
I never studied this in great depth but I went through a lot of material related to pole shifts. The magnetic pole is not at the North Pole and it moves or varies location.
I do think this is not sufficent danger involved in this to worry over. But this is navel gazing.
Miles Dei
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But this is navel gazing.
Miles Dei
:cheers:
Thanks, one less thing to worry about! Welcome to the forums. Miles Dei.
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....but on the other hand
http://poleshift.ning.com/profiles/blogs/sweeden-200-ft-wide-entrance-to-hell-opens-up-in-meimberget
and go to Main Page for scary navel gazing :scared2:
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The post has been renamed:
http://poleshift.ning.com/profiles/blogs/sweeden-200-ft-wide-entrance-to-hell-opens-up-in-malmberget
I don't know if the content is the same.
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The post has been renamed:
http://poleshift.ning.com/profiles/blogs/sweeden-200-ft-wide-entrance-to-hell-opens-up-in-malmberget
I don't know if the content is the same.
It's a nutty website.
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I just noticed that our links look the same. The only difference is that the spelling of Malmberget has been corrected. I wonder how long before Sweeden gets corrected.
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Fascinating.
But it is my understanding that Padre Pio did not have anything to say about the Three Days of Darkness.
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I find it hard to put a date on the Three Days of Darkness especially for so soon, that would mean the warning would be happening this year. I would think there would have to be the great chastisement first, aka world war III, plagues, famines, etc. But who knows.
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I find it hard to put a date on the Three Days of Darkness especially for so soon, that would mean the warning would be happening this year. I would think there would have to be the great chastisement first, aka world war III, plagues, famines, etc. But who knows.
Didn't the whole idea of a warning come out of Garabandal, which is not approved?
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Didn't the whole idea of a warning come out of Garabandal, which is not approved?
No. There are a good number of old prophecies that tell of a warning before the 3DD happens, but they don't specify what exactly it will be, or what year it will happen.
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I find it hard to put a date on the Three Days of Darkness especially for so soon, that would mean the warning would be happening this year. I would think there would have to be the great chastisement first, aka world war III, plagues, famines, etc. But who knows.
I'm open to the possibility of it happening this year. After all, we've got 9 more months to burn before the year's out, and it really doesn't take long at all for famine to set in with the current layout of production and distribution of the food supply. Diseases can now easily spread across the globe with air travel and the dense population in the cities. War can break out in no time at all. So it's possible for all the things we expect to happen to occur in a short period of time.
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I believe this timeline is the accurate one, so I do not believe the 3DD of darkness would happen this year. I have been studying Eschatology for about 12 years, and it happening this year just makes no sense when it is studied in unison with other prophecies.
I go by this timeline:
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_jCLJb9lPZaQ/TIZhVleZasI/AAAAAAAACgc/1uF-WTIHguA/s400/prophecy-timeline.jpg)
I believe we are at the very end of the dotted line at the beginning since we are about to engage upon WWIII.
You should also read this entire blog post, it is exactly the same position I take and which I have held for years, I just never wrote it down, this guy did, so I was astounded he was on the exact same page as me with regards to all this:
Catholic Prophecy by The Catholic Knight (http://catholicknight.blogspot.com/p/catholic-prophecy.html)
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I find it hard to put a date on the Three Days of Darkness especially for so soon, that would mean the warning would be happening this year. I would think there would have to be the great chastisement first, aka world war III, plagues, famines, etc. But who knows.
Didn't the whole idea of a warning come out of Garabandal, which is not approved?
Garbandal is approved from what I gathered. Gregg can tell you all about it, he is an expert in Garabandal.
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There are a good number of old prophecies that tell of a warning before the 3DD happens, but they don't specify what exactly it will be, or what year it will happen.
Nifty. What are these prophecies about the warning? I've only heard of the Garabandal one.
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There are a good number of old prophecies that tell of a warning before the 3DD happens, but they don't specify what exactly it will be, or what year it will happen.
Nifty. What are these prophecies about the warning? I've only heard of the Garabandal one.
They're mostly prophecies given by saints from the middle ages. There might be a few of them in Yves Dupont's book Catholic Prophecy, but I found most of them in other old books and pamphlets. I can't remember the titles, and the books are lost on top of that, but I'll keep em close at hand when I dig em up again and let you know.
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"I am an archaeologist and the magnetic reversals or pole shifts are recorded. They are recorded in lava flows where the orientation of the north pole was preserved as the lava cooled. The magnetic pole is not at the North Pole and it moves or varies location. I do think this is not sufficent danger involved in this to worry over." Miles Dei
For a long time now I've looked for a reference that brings together information on the 3 Days of Darkness prophecies, but up 'til now all I've been able to find was bits & pieces. Your post is the best I've seen yet on bringing this information together in one place. Thank you for posting it.
...however, your speculations on pole shift, as politely noted by Miles Dei, are incorrect. These ideas rely on a confuson between the Earth's spin axis & its magnetic axis, which are 2 entirely different things.
I'm a prospector, & I've studied geology, physical geography, & planetary astronomy at the university level.
The Earth, as we all know, rotates on its spin axis. This is the motion that gives us our day & night. In all of its existence, the Earth's spin axis has never changed, nor can it change, absent a cataclysm that would probably destroy the planet. More of this in a moment. The only exception to this is a process called "precession", which means that every few thousand years the poles of the spin axis describe a small circle with respect to the celestial sphere. Back to the beginning of the planet, precession has always been a constant, not an intermittent variable; & there are no disturbances of nature or cataclysms that have ever been associated with it.
In addition, the Earth has magnetic poles which are located several hundred miles away from the poles of its spin axis. Like the poles of the spin axis, the magnetic poles "wander" a little bit, but their wanderings aren't as rigidly controlled as precession is. In fact they appear to be random, or nearly so. In addition to wandering, there is evidence from volcanic lava flows-- again as pointed out by Miles Dei-- that at widely separated periods of time the magnetic poles have flipped, the North magnetic pole become the South & vice versa. Scientists know of no negative consequences of this magnetic flipping, nor does present scientific theory provide for any. The only logical outcome would be that your compass needle points South instead of North.
Returning for a moment to the idea of the Earth changing its direction of rotation on its spin axis, there is just 1 possible event that could produce this result. That's the close passage to the Earth of a very massive object of at least planetary size-- possibly a stellar core fragment. The gravity of such an object, in theory, might reverse the rotation of the Earth, but in doing so it would perturb the Moon out of its orbit, ocean tides would be hundreds of feet high, mountains & continents on the Earth would shift, there would be earthquakes the strength of which would put all others in the shade, the atmosphere might be attenuated, & the Earth might very well be perturbed out of its present orbit around the Sun. In short, doomsday. It is very unlikely that life on Earth would survive such an event. Not just human life, but any life.
I'm aware that some commentators, in confusing the Earth's spin axis with its magnetic axis, have created websites that cater to the idea that since the Earth's magnetic axis is known to reverse itself from time to time, this has some sort of consequence for its spin axis. That view, as I hope I've made clear, is incorrect.
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"Garbandal is approved from what I gathered. Gregg can tell you all about it, he is an expert in Garabandal."
Garabandal has not been approved by the Vatican. However, the Vatican has canonized St. Pio of Petrelcina, & St. Pio said that the BV explicitly told him in a vision that the Apparitions of Garabandal were authentic. This is not a situation in which the private judgemnent of a saint comes into play & the saint can err, because St. Pio said he was told this specifically by the BV. He therefore entered into correspondence with Conchita of Garabandal, he sent people there, he met privately with her at his monastery in Italy, & he bequeathed her 1 of the 3 veils that covered his face in death. She still has it. If St. Pio deserved to be canonized-- & he did-- then Garabandal is authentic, irrespective of the fact that the Church has never approved it.
The Vatican will never approve the Apparitions of Garabandal because Garabandal was explicitly skeptical of the 2d Vatican Council. "That depends on how the Council turns out," "Many priests are on the road to perdition, & they take many souls with them," & so forth.
Much more on this subject in my thread, "End Times Prophecy" in the "Crisis in the Church" forum.
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BTW, I neglected to mention the example of an electric motor, that when you reverse its polarity it reverses its direction of rotation. This is perfectly true, but it doesn't apply to the Earth. An electric motor is driven by its electric current, but the rotation of the Earth is in no sense driven by its magnetic field. The rotation of the Earth is the result of the conservation of the angular momentum of the primordial nebula of gas & particles out of which it oridinally condensed. As the gas & particles were compacted by gravity, their angular momentum was conserved in the physical structure of the Earth, which maintains its spin by momentum-- & not in any sense by its magnetic field. Proof of this can be found in the other planets, every 1 of which rotates, but many of which-- like the Moon & Mars-- have no detectable magnetic fields.
It can be very misleading to perform research on this & other subjects-- including the 3 Days of Darkness-- relying primarily on the InterNet. This is because a lot of misleading information relating to pole-flipping, for example, has been posted. Also, many spurious quotes have been attributed to St. Pio & others. This is why, in verifying his statement that the BV told him about the Apparitions of Garabandal, I wrote to his monastery, to the priest who delivered his death veil to Conchita, & to others with 1st-hand knowledge of the facts.
It is a deeply troubling fact that some of these spurious quotes have begun making their way into works that are published in hard copy. I recently got in trouble for this on another site, where I posted a quote attributed to St. Ignatius of Antioch that I got out of my personal library-- not off the InterNet. When I was challenged I checked the attribution & found that it wasn't listed in the index of attributions, so I checked my copy of the Letters of St. Ignatius & couldn't find it; so I went on-line & found that in addition to Ignatius of Antioch, it has also been attributed to St. Irenaeus of Lyons & St. Ignatius of Loyala-- but no one could provide an authentic attribution for any of them. I had to admit defeat, which happens to me rarely.
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"Garbandal is approved from what I gathered. Gregg can tell you all about it, he is an expert in Garabandal."
Garabandal has not been approved by the Vatican. However, the Vatican has canonized St. Pio of Petrelcina, & St. Pio said that the BV explicitly told him in a vision that the Apparitions of Garabandal were authentic. This is not a situation in which the private judgemnent of a saint comes into play & the saint can err, because St. Pio said he was told this specifically by the BV. He therefore entered into correspondence with Conchita of Garabandal, he sent people there, he met privately with her at his monastery in Italy, & he bequeathed her 1 of the 3 veils that covered his face in death. She still has it. If St. Pio deserved to be canonized-- & he did-- then Garabandal is authentic, irrespective of the fact that the Church has never approved it.
The Vatican will never approve the Apparitions of Garabandal because Garabandal was explicitly skeptical of the 2d Vatican Council. "That depends on how the Council turns out," "Many priests are on the road to perdition, & they take many souls with them," & so forth.
Much more on this subject in my thread, "End Times Prophecy" in the "Crisis in the Church" forum.
Graehame,
What's your source(s) in re to St. Pio's view on Garabandal? Numerous sites state pro and con on this. I don't know which to believe.
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I never said it was approved by the Vatican, I am pretty sure it is approved by the local bishop. Gregg is the person to talk to on this, he knows pretty much everything there is to know on Garabandal. If you search Fisheaters, there is a really long thread about Garabandal on there where he goes into explicit detail why it is a legitimate apparition of Our Lady.
Regardless of Garabandal or not, I sincerely and highly doubt the 3DD will take place this year.
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Graehame, What's your source(s) in re to St. Pio's view on Garabandal? Numerous sites state pro and con on this. I don't know which to believe.
The 1st thing you need to understand about Padre Pio is that he would never speak on such a matter before the Church did. I never met him, but I've spoken to several who did, & they all speak of his great humility. So I have no published statement of his favorable to Garabandal.
Padre Pio sent a letter to the visionaries of Garabandal, but the letter was unsigned-- so I don't even have that. But his handwriting was recognized by someone who was present in Garabandal at the time, Felix Lopez (who later became the schoolteacher in Garabandal)-- surely a nearly miraculous coincidence. Lopez translated the letter from Italian to Spanish & then helped the visionaries write a reply, which led to a later verified visit of Conchita Gonzalez, the oldest of the visionaries, to Padre Pio at his monastery of San Giovanni Rotundo in Italy.
As I mentioned previously, I wrote to the monastery & was able to verify this visit.
Also, my mother was active in the mid-to-late '60s starting a Garabandal center in S. Michigan. As part of this project she entered into correspondence with Joey Lomangino, who'd been adopted by Padre Pio as one of his "spiritual children" during a visit to Italy. Joey Lomangino told her that when he asked Padre Pio about what was happening at Garabandal, Padre Pio told him to go see for himself. Only later, after Joey Lomangino had returned from Garabandal. did Padre Pio tell him about the visions in which the BV had told him the apparitions were genuine.
I wrote to one of the 2 priests who were involved in delivering the veil that covered Padre Pio's face in death to Conchita, but I received no reply. However, thru a fortuitous coincidence it turned out that I knew someone who knew someone who knew Conchita after she'd moved to New York, & by this means I was able to get a question to her about the veil. I was informed that she still had it in her possession as of a couple of years ago.
So you see, I really have nothing. Since Padre Pio wouldn't speak publicly about this before the Church had spoken, there are no published references in hard copy, so people can say whatever they like & it all comes down to he-said-she-said. The only testimony consists of private words & actions, & the only way to get at them is to be able to find someone who actually knew Padre Pio. I didn't, but I was fortunate in that regard in being able to reach a couple of people who did.
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"I never said it was approved by the Vatican, I am pretty sure it is approved by the local bishop."
You may be right about that. I seem to recall something along those lines.
"Regardless of Garabandal or not, I sincerely and highly doubt the 3DD will take place this year."
Totally agree. I think we're close, though. Say 5-10 years.
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The Warning and Miracle are from the Garabandal prophecies. The final incident to be mentioned in Garabandal is the Chastisement. The Three Days of Darkness are not mentioned by name in the Garabandal prophecies. If the Chastisement and the Three Days are the same event, and that event is to occur in December this year, then we ought to be expecting the Warning very soon.
There has been speculation that, if true, the Warning will be insufficient to change the hearts of most people, or at least there will still be many evil people. The people who will not repent after the warning might even become more depraved than they are now.
Can this all happen yet this year??
Where did you hear this will happen in December?
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see this site for Garabandal. FWIW:
http://www.garabandalarchives.com/default.htm
I do not believe it will be a war or a natural disaster - Our Lady has told us in several apparitions it will be directly from Heaven and will be of God.
Bp. Williamson is on record for believing in the authenticity of Garabandal.
Vigilate et orate. :pray:
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I thought Bishop Williamson said he was on the fence about Garbandal?
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I heard him say so in a video interview. I'll have to dig. I am pretty sure it was either you tube or Steven Steiner. No matter where - I am certain I heard him say he was.
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This was from Pravoslavni in a 2007 post. (http://www.cathinfo.com/index.php?a=topic&t=3874)
Prophecy of Blessed Tomasuccio de Foligno c. 1319-1377 A.D.
"By about twelve years shall the millennium have passed when the resplendent mantle of legitimate power shall emerge from the shadows where it was being kept by the schism. And beyond harm from the one who is blocking the door of salvation, for his deceitful schism shall have come to an end."
The schism between the Catholic Church and the Vatican II sect shall come to an end in 2012, according to Blessed Tomasuccio
Hate to burst your bubble s2sreal, but it's actually the year 3012. No, just kidding. A thousand years of putting up with heretical teachings would be too much! You just might have something here. I was reading about a Catholic writer commenting about how Our Lord usually gives a nation, or a people a generation to repent. Ie., He gave the Jews roughly a generation to repent before the destruction of Jerusalem. So, with that mindset, a generation from the time that Vatican II started and ended would be 1962-1967. one generation is roughly fifty years from what I've learned. That would put us around 2012-2017. So the Vatican II generation time frame is running out. It's interesting what Father Gruner suggested during one of his presentations at the last Fatima conference in Rome. He said that the King of France was given one hundred years (roughly two generations) from the time He requested the King to Consecrate France (as requested through Saint Margaret Mary Alacoque) to the Sacred Heart until the time that the King lost his throne and was beheaded. Father Gruner compared this to the Fatima consecrations today because Our Lord told Sister Lucia that They (they Pope) will do it but that it would be late (like the King of France). With this Que Father Gruner figures it will be roughly one hundred years from the the time of the apparitions (1917) till the time runs out for His request at Fatima. That would put us around 2017.... So who knows, maybe everything is just lining up in a way that is not by chance....
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I heard him say so in a video interview. I'll have to dig. I am pretty sure it was either you tube or Steven Steiner. No matter where - I am certain I heard him say he was.
I actually heard His Excellency say this as well. Maybe SpiritusSanctus heard him say that he was on the fence with Garabandal at a later date?? Not sure what to think about Garabandal. Father Gruner seems to be supportive of the events. I just have such little trust of any apparition since that of Fatima, including Akita. I know Akita, Japan apparitions were approved by the local Bishop. Maybe it's just me being a little overly suspicious of things in modern times??
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By chance? There are no coincidences.
(http://harapeko.que.jp/gallery/archives/signs2.jpg)
All jesting aside, God has a plan.
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Agreed, Dino! We ought to be cautious in these times.
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I heard him say so in a video interview. I'll have to dig. I am pretty sure it was either you tube or Steven Steiner. No matter where - I am certain I heard him say he was.
That's surprising. I would appreciate it if you could find a link to the interview.
I saw the video of one of the Garabandal seers tested by a skeptic. He flashed his hand in front of her face when she was supposedly receiving a vision and she flinched.
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I thought Bishop Williamson said he was on the fence about Garbandal?
I have a set of audio tapes that I just recently listened to, by Bishop Williamson. Years ago, he was a priest at the chapel where I attend Mass. I have spoken to people who know him and love him, personally.
One of the tapes is about Fatima. Bishop Williamson really talks about and explains many things, but one thing he mentions is Garabandal. I had never heard of Garabandal before that day. He clearly believes that Our Lady's visit to Garabandal is authentic.
These tapes were recorded in 1984, before he was a Bishop, before Assisi, before lots of things. But he definitely believed they were authentic then. After further investigation, however, he may now believe otherwise. But he did believe once.
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I believe this timeline is the accurate one, so I do not believe the 3DD of darkness would happen this year. I have been studying Eschatology for about 12 years, and it happening this year just makes no sense when it is studied in unison with other prophecies.
I go by this timeline:
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_jCLJb9lPZaQ/TIZhVleZasI/AAAAAAAACgc/1uF-WTIHguA/s400/prophecy-timeline.jpg)
I believe we are at the very end of the dotted line at the beginning since we are about to engage upon WWIII.
You should also read this entire blog post, it is exactly the same position I take and which I have held for years, I just never wrote it down, this guy did, so I was astounded he was on the exact same page as me with regards to all this:
Catholic Prophecy by The Catholic Knight (http://catholicknight.blogspot.com/p/catholic-prophecy.html)
I have a hunch you are correct.
I cannot find conclusive evidence that Padre Pio did/didnot have anything to do with these 3 DD. Does anyone? Hope I didn't miss it here...
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I thought Bishop Williamson said he was on the fence about Garbandal?
I have a set of audio tapes that I just recently listened to, by Bishop Williamson. Years ago, he was a priest at the chapel where I attend Mass. I have spoken to people who know him and love him, personally.
One of the tapes is about Fatima. Bishop Williamson really talks about and explains many things, but one thing he mentions is Garabandal. I had never heard of Garabandal before that day. He clearly believes that Our Lady's visit to Garabandal is authentic.
These tapes were recorded in 1984, before he was a Bishop, before Assisi, before lots of things. But he definitely believed they were authentic then. After further investigation, however, he may now believe otherwise. But he did believe once.
Thank you, CathMomof7 -- I am sure I heard it somewhere, but cannot back it up.
At least I know I wasn't mistaken on the issue, and as you say, whether Bp Williamson still believes it, we may never know, especially during these times of "silencing" or whatever it is best called.
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The problem I have with any prediction of things is that they all involve dates which are very conveniently meaningful to numeroligists like Jews, politicians, and other occultists. Dec 21, 2012? 12-21-12, get it, see how the numbers are all the same yet backward? Or like 9/11- both very important numbers in Masonic numerology. Every prediction does that, which is why I give it no notice. God is not a numerologist, he does what he wants when he wants and so what if the date looks "pretty"? Any prediction of anything that relies on numerology is either baloney, or is being planned by the numerologists already as a sort of self-fulfilling prophecy. Like how way back on 9/11 of 1990 when Bush Sr. gave his "nєω ωσrℓ∂ σr∂єr" speech, and then on the exact same date, 9/11, they struck the first major blow in their plans for that very same Order. They chose 9/11 for both the speech and the attacks, because it is significant to them. Those numbers have no significance to normal people, so the only ones interested in dates that much, are the very people you should not trust.
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theology101,
That makes sense to me. God's time is not our time.
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I believe this timeline is the accurate one, so I do not believe the 3DD of darkness would happen this year. I have been studying Eschatology for about 12 years, and it happening this year just makes no sense when it is studied in unison with other prophecies.
I go by this timeline:
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_jCLJb9lPZaQ/TIZhVleZasI/AAAAAAAACgc/1uF-WTIHguA/s400/prophecy-timeline.jpg)
I cannot find conclusive evidence that Padre Pio did/didnot have anything to do with these 3 DD. Does anyone? Hope I didn't miss it here...
I have one of the original VHS Docuмentaries from the Garabandal Center (Maria Sarocco). In it, Joey Lomangino describes his conversation with Padre Pio. Joey asks if he should go to Garabandal. Padre Pio's answer: Yes. Second question from Joey: Is the Virgin Mary appearing there? P.P. answer: Yes.
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I believe this timeline is the accurate one, so I do not believe the 3DD of darkness would happen this year. I have been studying Eschatology for about 12 years, and it happening this year just makes no sense when it is studied in unison with other prophecies.
I go by this timeline:
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_jCLJb9lPZaQ/TIZhVleZasI/AAAAAAAACgc/1uF-WTIHguA/s400/prophecy-timeline.jpg)
I cannot find conclusive evidence that Padre Pio did/didnot have anything to do with these 3 DD. Does anyone? Hope I didn't miss it here...
I have one of the original VHS Docuмentaries from the Garabandal Center (Maria Sarocco). In it, Joey Lomangino describes his conversation with Padre Pio. Joey asks if he should go to Garabandal. Padre Pio's answer: Yes. Second question from Joey: Is the Virgin Mary appearing there? P.P. answer: Yes.
I'd certainly like to see that! Is it available anywhere? :confused1: