Author Topic: When a Clock is a Weapon (Read 4058 times)

Iuvenalis · « **Reply #15 on:** September 20, 2015, 12:28:14 AM »

All the furor about this misses the point by making it sound like this was just some kid that likes to tinker. I used to build projects growing up and this kid *didn't even make a clock*. He didn't *build* anything, he repackaged it (in the most suspicious way possible).

http://blogs.artvoice.com/techvoice/2015/09/17/reverse-engineering-ahmed-mohameds-clock-and-ourselves/

It was a security probe. This incident will cow the next school or law enforcement officer that is correctly suspicious of some towel head into not taking a look at something they should.

poche · « **Reply #16 on:** September 20, 2015, 01:20:48 AM »

Quote from: Iuvenalis

All the furor about this misses the point by making it sound like this was just some kid that likes to tinker. I used to build projects growing up and this kid *didn't even make a clock*. He didn't *build* anything, he repackaged it (in the most suspicious way possible).

http://blogs.artvoice.com/techvoice/2015/09/17/reverse-engineering-ahmed-mohameds-clock-and-ourselves/

It was a security probe. This incident will cow the next school or law enforcement officer that is correctly suspicious of some towel head into not taking a look at something they should.

I just hopw that they don't call the police if I wear a wristwatch to school.

Iuvenalis · « **Reply #17 on:** September 20, 2015, 09:40:31 AM »

Quote from: poche

I just hopw that they don't call the police if I wear a wristwatch to school.

You're a nitwit.

Don't attempt to have a discussion with me, you've never answered a single question I've ever asked you. You are not to be trusted, and I see what you're doing in this thread.

Iuvenalis · « **Reply #18 on:** September 20, 2015, 09:42:02 AM »

To everyone else, this is a good read as well:
http://nypost.com/2015/09/19/how-ahmeds-clock-became-a-false-convenient-tale-of-racism/

Peter15and1 · « **Reply #19 on:** September 21, 2015, 11:35:50 AM »

The school did nothing wrong by reporting the item to the police, given they had no idea what it was.

The police may have gone overboard by arresting him once they figured out it was merely a clock.

The public has certainly gone overboard by making up a tale of racism.

TKGS · « **Reply #20 on:** September 21, 2015, 12:12:27 PM »

Quote from: Peter15and1

The school did nothing wrong by reporting the item to the police, given they had no idea what it was.

The police may have gone overboard by arresting him once they figured out it was merely a clock.

The public has certainly gone overboard by making up a tale of racism.

Had this kid been white and shaved his head regularly, the media would be praising the school and the police for their vigilance about a potential problem.

poche · « **Reply #21 on:** September 24, 2015, 12:01:03 AM »

The family of Ahmed Mohamed, the boy who was arrested for bringing a homemade clock into school that was mistaken for a bomb, has hired a lawyer to get the timepiece back and has decided to homeschool the teen and his siblings.

"The family has now hired two Dallas attorneys, Thomas Bowers and Reggie London, to pursue Ahmed’s legal rights and regain his science project from the Irving Police Department," read a statement from representatives for the family released today.

Mohamed was arrested for bringing the timepiece to school last week in Irving, Texas, and though the charges have been dropped, the case caused an uproar and sparked claims of religious persecution.

In the wake of the incident President Obama invited Mohamed to the White House and Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg reached out to him.

Mohamed has since withdrawn from MacArthur High School, despite an invitation from the school to return when he finished serving his suspension.

"His family has pulled him and two other siblings out of the Irving School District because of religious persecution and made the decision to homeschool the children," read the statement.

There were calls for the boy's suspension to be lifted, but the school stood by the actions of its staff.

"The family wants justice and to ensure no family will ever have to experience what Ahmed went through again," the statement said. "Mr. Bowers and Mr. London are concerned that the proper protocol and procedures were not followed and that this will be a psychological blemish on the fourteen year old boy."

The Irving Police Department did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

https://gma.yahoo.com/ahmed-mohameds-family-hires-lawyers-clock-back-homeschool-015606392--abc-news-topstories.html

Capt McQuigg · « **Reply #22 on:** September 24, 2015, 02:08:41 PM »

Quote from: poche

Quote from: Viva Cristo Rey
By Lisa Fogarty, Mon, November 3, 2014
A 14-year-old boy from Amarillo, Texas, was reportedly hurt by a police officer after he refused to remove his rosary beads at a middle school football game Wednesday night.

Jacob Herrera’s mother Lori Martinez says her son was approached by officer Corporal Wilson and told to take off his rosary bead necklace. A witness named Marivell Chavez says the teen was then held to the ground, where she says he shouted, “call my mom” and “I can’t breathe,” reports Newschannel10.com.

“You know he handcuffed him and then crossed him across the street right there and slammed him again and he repeatedly slammed the child on the floor,” Chavez said.

But a spokesperson for the Amarillo Police Department denies the allegations and says the officer acted accordingly after the teen began fighting with him and refusing to remove the beads. Rosaries are reportedly a symbol of an association with a gang, and though police say they aren’t accusing Jacob of having gang ties, the religious item is prohibited at school events.

“He was fighting with the officer, he wouldn’t comply with the commands, he wouldn’t put his arms behind his back,” said Cpl Jerry Neufeld. “The officer used a couple of different compliance holds to try and get him to put his hands behind his back, he did not deploy his taser, he just tried to get him under control. They rolled on the ground for several minutes.”

Martinez says her son is not a gang member and that he wears the rosary because it has sentimental value to him after the death of his sibling. Jacob is currently being held at the Youth Center of High Plains. Some of his friends at Amarillo ISD and other parents who say they witnessed the confrontation wore rosaries Thursday to symbolize their demand for justice for the student.

But Jacob’s school seems to be sticking with the law on this one.

Amarillo ISD released the following statement: “Last night at one of our schools, a student was identified as being in violation of the dress code for wearing an item in a manner which is considered to be gang related by local and national law enforcement. A school administrator and liaison officer asked the student to either comply with the dress code rules or leave school property. The student repeatedly refused to comply with either option. At that time, the student was arrested for trespassing.”

Update

A response via Cpl. Jerry Neufeld of the Amarillo Police Department:

AND NOT A PEEP FROM OBAMA OR HILLARY

That is because Catholics of hispanic descent are not considered to be citizens of this country.

You're both wrong. It is because gangbangers use the crucifix as a gang symbol and this gangbanger was engaged in a physical fight.

If you take a swing at a cop, it usually ends badly. :wink: