But meanwhile, for as long as your Reverend Paternity will be determined to tell these shameless lies, others will be permitted, on behalf of his English Majesty, to throw back into your Paternity’s shitty mouth, truly the shit-pool of all shit, all the muck and shit which your damnable rottenness has vomited up, and to empty out all the sewers and privies onto your crown divested of the dignity of the priestly crown, against which no less than against the kingly crown you have determined to play the buffoon. […] For I am ashamed even of this necessity, that while I clean out the fellow’s shit-filled mouth I see my own fingers covered with shit. […] [Luther] had got the better of cacodaemons in impiety, in order to adorn his sect with fitting emblems, surpassed magpies in chatter, pimps in wickedness, prostitutes in obscenity, all buffoons in buffoonery.
Interea vero, quam diu constabit reverendam paternitatem vestram, tam impudenter ista mentiri: licebit aliis pro maiestate anglica, lutum et stercus omne, quod vestra putredo damnabilis egessit, in vestræ paternitatis os stercoreum, et stercorum omnium, vere sterquilinium regerere: et in coronam vestram, sacerdotalis coronæ dignitate exauctoratam, in quam non minus ac regiam scurrari decrevistis, omnes cloacas et latrinas effundere. […] Etenim me necessitatis etiam huius pudet: quod dum os hominis merdosum detergo: digitos mihi concacatos video. […] quum cacodæmones impietate vicisset, ut dignis emblemmatis ornaret suam sectam, picas garrulitate, lenones improbitate, prostibula obscænitate, scurras omnes scurrilitate superarit.
The Essential Works of Thomas More (https://isidore.co/calibre#panel=book_details&book_id=7818) PDF p. 549:
Responsio ad Lutherum (1523) Liber 1 (https://essentialmore.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/Responsio-ad-Lutherum-1.pdf), Liber 2 (https://essentialmore.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/Responsio-ad-Lutherum-2-.pdf) (stercora, merda, leno, etc. are translated aptly. ☺):
Luther's lavatory thrills expertsArchaeologists in Germany say they may have found a lavatory where Martin Luther launched the Reformation of the Christian church in the 16th Century.
(http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/40444000/jpg/_40444777_luther_ap203b.jpg)
Martin Luther was candid about his constipation
The stone room is in a newly-unearthed annex to Luther's house in Wittenberg.
Luther is quoted as saying he was "in cloaca", or in the sewer, when he was inspired to argue that salvation is granted because of faith, not deeds.
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Not that such language should be found in every other breath, but sometimes other words fall short, and this language is actually called for.So did he literally say "Scheisse" (Scheiße)?
He was talking about LUTHER for crying out loud, the man who focused the heretofore unfocused discontent with the Church, who solidified and made permanent the schismatical and heretical breach that tore Christendom in twain from that time onward.
Luther, who came up with his "brainstorm" that man is justified by faith alone while LITERALLY sitting on the toilet. It is not known whether the actual brainstorm occurred before, during, or after the actual emptying of his bowels.
And did you know that Luther had a foul mouth as well? His favorite word was "shit".
The politer terms for merda in Classical Latin were stercus (gen. stercoris), "manure" and fimum or fimus, "filth." Stercus was used frequently in the Vulgate, as in its well-known translation of Psalm 112:7: (Psalm 113:7 in the KJV.)
Suscitāns ā terrā inopem, et dē stercore ērigēns pauperem.
("Raising up the needy from the earth : and lifting up the poor out of the dunghill." DRC)
I question a bit whether the Latin stercus has the same vulgar connotation as the English word shit. It of course has the same denotation.We had the lawn guy over the other day, Mexican, speaks limited English, true prince of a guy, hails from Chiapas. I was trying to explain to him that one of the neighborhood feral cats pooped in the wood chip pile (he'd cut down a tree the week before), and to be careful that he didn't get it on his shoes when cleaning up the pile. Seeing that I wasn't getting the point across, I said "mierda" and he then knew exactly what I was talking about.
It did appear to be slightly on the vulgar side, but perhaps more like "crap" than "shit". As you can see the difference in degree of vulgarity between "crap" and "shit", so too it's very difficult to know where stercus was on this spectrum of vulgarity in St. Thomas More's day.
But even merda appeared in agricultural and veterinary texts.
If fecalitas isnt a legitimate scatalogical term, then it should be. ;) Rolls off the tongue well.Hahaha- maybe I shouldn't laugh but that's pretty funny
Ubi caritas, Deus ibi est.
Ubi fecalitas, hereticos ibi sunt.
Luther Insult Generator:Shakespeare or even St. Jerome is better at insults than that. Luther's make so sense.
http://ergofabulous.org/luther/? (http://ergofabulous.org/luther/?)
Shakespeare or even St. Jerome is better at insults than that. Luther's make so sense.
I'm pretty sure that's the whole point (which isn't limited to insults).:jester:
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