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Offline spouse of Jesus

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Spousal obedience!
« on: June 24, 2012, 10:37:24 AM »
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  •   If you want an obedient spouse marry a phlegmatic. Every phlegmatic person is born with the virtue of obedience written in his?her heart . No matter how patriarchal your society is, your phlegmatic husband cheerfully obeys you. No matter how feministic your society is, your phlegmatic wife always obeys you.
     


    Offline Nishant

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    « Reply #1 on: June 24, 2012, 11:21:35 AM »
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  • A Christian wife should according to the Gospel obey her husband, even as a Christian husband should love his wife as selflessly as Christ loved His Church.

    Quote from: St.Francis De Sales
    Therefore, husbands, do you preserve a tender, constant, hearty love for your wives. It was that the wife might be loved heartily and tenderly that woman was taken from the side nearest Adam's heart. No failings or infirmities, bodily or mental, in your wife should ever excite any kind of dislike in you, but rather a loving, tender compassion; and that because God has made her dependent on you, and bound to defer to and obey you; and that while she is meant to be your helpmeet, you are her superior and her head.

    And on your part, wives, do you love the husbands God has given you tenderly, heartily, but with a reverential, confiding love, for God has made the man to have the predominance, and to be the stronger; and He wills the woman to depend upon him,--bone of his bone, flesh of his flesh,--taking her from out the ribs of the man, to show that she must be subject to his guidance. All Holy Scripture enjoins this subjection, which nevertheless is not grievous; and the same Holy Scripture, while it bids you accept it lovingly, bids your husband to use his superiority with great tenderness, lovingkindness, and gentleness. "Husbands, dwell with your wives according to knowledge, giving honour unto the wife as unto the weaker vessel."

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    Offline Raoul76

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    « Reply #2 on: June 24, 2012, 03:10:32 PM »
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  • The saints attempt to achieve a balance of the humors, as they were perfectly balanced in Jesus and Mary.  

    St. Francis de Sales, quoted above by Nishant, was a famous choleric.  He had to work hard to overcome his anger.  He didn't go around saying that everyone should be choleric and then stop there.

    I am melancholic and choleric by nature, and have had to do much work on both.
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    « Reply #3 on: June 24, 2012, 04:05:59 PM »
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  • I must say, it's nice to hear something positive about the phlegmatic soul. Of the four temperments I hear the least about this one for some reason. Usually at the end of those temperment tests, the other 3 temperment descriptions have a big long explanation and list of famous people and saints. But then you get to the phlegmatic section and find a small paragraph. Kind of frustrating for the person who is phlegmatic! Haha.

    But what you say, in general, is true, spouse of jesus. I'm phlegmatic and I have never struggled with being obedient. I have, however, struggled quite a bit with being passive to the point of my detriment in regards to people easily taking advantage of my disposition, not expressing my concerns, etc. I don't have much of a backbone, in other words, it seems.Each temperment comes with a lot of good, but also many obstacles for sure!
    Religion clean and undefiled before God and the Father, is this: to visit the fatherless and widows in their tribulation: and to keep one's self unspotted from this world.
    ~James 1:27

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    « Reply #4 on: June 24, 2012, 05:21:22 PM »
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  •   I am so happy that our Catholic faith doesn't despise any of them. But if you go to a ME Country you see how the phlegmatic is ridiculed as if he had a defect. Well, if a culture likes war-like competitive men, the phlegmatic don't fit! Read the history the history of absolute monarchs and see how those of them who shared your temperament never misused their authority.
      The absolute monarchy of a phlegmatic never turns to dictatorship. You never need a parliament to keep him from possible tyranny!