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Offline Mark 79

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Sentimental [sniff]
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    Re: Sentimental [sniff]
    « Reply #1 on: Yesterday at 05:55:30 PM »
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  • That’s lovely and very true. Now we have to be the ones to make it magical for our children ❤️


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    Re: Sentimental [sniff]
    « Reply #2 on: Yesterday at 09:46:10 PM »
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  • Awww....

    So true.  It is also hard when you live across the nation from all your extended family. 
    Fatti Maschii, Parole Femine

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    Re: Sentimental [sniff]
    « Reply #3 on: Today at 04:59:52 AM »
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  • I relate to this so much...  Thank you for sharing!  May the souls of the faithfully departed rest in peace.:pray:
    "Jesus, Meek and Humble of Heart, make my heart like unto Thine!"

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    Re: Sentimental [sniff]
    « Reply #4 on: Today at 06:58:51 AM »
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  • 💯 Here’s to hoping for that never ending reunion we will have with our loved ones someday. :pray:
    Jesus, meek and humble of heart, make my heart like unto Thine.


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    Re: Sentimental [sniff]
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  • I think it is harmful for Catholic parents to use words with their children like "magical", and the Santa Claus nonsense. There are other ways to make Christmas special for children that actually strengthens their faith and piety.

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    Re: Sentimental [sniff]
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  • I think it is harmful for Catholic parents to use words with their children like "magical", and the Santa Claus nonsense. There are other ways to make Christmas special for children that actually strengthens their faith and piety.
    We actually didn’t do Santa. I kind of half heartedly tried when eldest was little but I’m so crap at lying and I felt was going to put them off believing in real supernatural beings like God! And the Angels. 

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    Re: Sentimental [sniff]
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  • Awww....

    So true.  It is also hard when you live across the nation from all your extended family.
    USA? I forget that USA is so big! In uk you drive one end to the other it’s 500 miles…


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    Re: Sentimental [sniff]
    « Reply #8 on: Today at 01:47:56 PM »
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  • I think it is harmful for Catholic parents to use words with their children like "magical", and the Santa Claus nonsense. There are other ways to make Christmas special for children that actually strengthens their faith and piety.
    We never did Santa on Christmas.  We do St. Nicholas stockings on Dec 6.
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    Re: Sentimental [sniff]
    « Reply #9 on: Today at 01:49:37 PM »
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  • USA? I forget that USA is so big! In uk you drive one end to the other it’s 500 miles…
    Yes, USA.  It's 3000 miles from us to extended family.
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    Re: Sentimental [sniff]
    « Reply #10 on: Today at 02:02:49 PM »
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  • Yes, USA.  It's 3000 miles from us to extended family.
    This might be an incredibly stupid question but could you move to the state they’re in? Or do employment factors, weather, other things prevent this? I know from my American friend who lives here (she married an English man) that there are liberal states and conservative states and no one sane wants to live in a liberal state..??


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    Re: Sentimental [sniff]
    « Reply #11 on: Today at 05:12:58 PM »
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  • This might be an incredibly stupid question but could you move to the state they’re in? Or do employment factors, weather, other things prevent this? I know from my American friend who lives here (she married an English man) that there are liberal states and conservative states and no one sane wants to live in a liberal state..??
    Not a stupid question.  It is easier to be this far from family because none of them are traditional Catholic.  We moved from one liberal area to another.  We are really involved with our church here, so moving isn't really and option.  Plus my husband really enjoys his job. It still is hard, though, because I miss my family.
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    Re: Sentimental [sniff]
    « Reply #12 on: Today at 05:49:35 PM »
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  • So, my father died at 1AM on December 26, 9 years ago this coming 26th ... and that was just when we gave the OK to take him off life support, and when we did, he was gone within 30 seconds, confirming that it was just the machines keeping him artificially moving.  That's something I've wondered about before, whether the soul remains in the body even if the body is no longer capable of supporting life, just because the machines stopped kept moving things.  Perhaps he actually died on Christmas Day.

    Interesting story that one.  Some months before that, I was visiting both my parents, and when there was no one else around, my father looked at me, dead serious, and told me he'd had this recurring dream where he had died, and the details that stuck out to him were that he heard Christmas bells, and that I was there.  So, that made me wonder if I wasn't going to die before him (assuming the dream was real), since if he had died and I was there ... I interpreted that as meaning I had died already before him, and he was 92.

    Now, since my father had been in ICU all day during Christmas, and we all had children and relatives, we would take shifts, and one of my brothers and my sister had been there, and I came to relieve them at about 11PM on Christmas Day.  I insisted that they go home and get some rest.  So I was there alone, of my relatives.  At about 12:30 AM, so about 90 minutes later, the doctor told me that he basically thought that my father was gone, and that the machines were just keeping his heart moving.  After calling my mother and some of my other relatives, we all agreed that it was time to take him off the life support.

    So I was kneeling next to his bed praying when they took him off the machines and about 30 seconds later they pronounced him dead.  So the dream about Christmas bells (when he told me about this, it had been Summer) and me being there ... it came to pass.  Recall that all the Liturgical theologians say that the Feast of Christmas lasts the entire Octave, and/or it's quite likely that he had already pass on before midnight, depending on what one might theorize about that question I raised above.

    This past December 7, Vigil of the Immaculate Conception (except that it was a Sunday, so kindof bumped), my mother passed away, at around 1:13 AM ... my sister and I were there.  So I'm hoping that my father and my mother and my younger brother Steve will be celebrating Christmas in a way we cannot even begin to imagine ... this year.

    I went to Sunday Mass on the day my mother passed away, and then in the afternoon  I sat there in that modest, old, little home we grew up in ... and just went down "memory lane", as it were, recalling all the Christmases we had there, and so many other memories.

    But ... life is so short, and it'll seem like the blink of an eye before we're there ourselves and, God willing, make it to Heaven.  When my younger brother passed away at the age of 48, I took that opportunity to try to "scare straight" my own children, the oldest of whom were getting into their 20s, explaining to them that Steve had only been twice their age when he passed away, lest they consider themselves immoral, reminding them that we could pass away at any moment, without warning, and that we need to always be prepared.

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    Re: Sentimental [sniff]
    « Reply #13 on: Today at 06:04:27 PM »
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  • I think it is harmful for Catholic parents to use words with their children like "magical", and the Santa Claus nonsense. There are other ways to make Christmas special for children that actually strengthens their faith and piety.

    Give it a rest, man ... the term in the OP is being used in the looser sense that you'll find second in the dictionary:
    "beautiful or delightful in such a way as to seem removed from everyday life."

    And of course, the root word is related to the "Magi" and nobody eschews the word used by Sacred Scripture.

    As for Santa, there's nothing wrong with having St. Nicholas bringing the gifts, or, since we were Hungarian, it was the Child Jesus who brought everything, and of course it's much easier to convince children that God knows when you're being "naughty or nice".  But even with the secular Santa, there's nothing particularly wrong with it ... since by the time children reach the age of reason, they "get it", nor do they accuse their parents of lying or deception ... and it does nothing whatsoever to harm their faith in and of itself.  Most people understand that "play-acting" is not deception or lying.  I recall that when I started to figure it out, there was no resentment or disillusionment or any impact to faith, but you simply transition out of it.  Various cultures, including Catholics ones, have had stories about variations on a "boogey-man" to scare children into behaving, when they might be tempted to do otherwise.






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    Re: Sentimental [sniff]
    « Reply #14 on: Today at 06:08:04 PM »
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  • Awww....

    So true.  It is also hard when you live across the nation from all your extended family.

    So ... it is much easier now, though, than it used to be.  When my parents came to the US, they had no extended family at all here, so unlike many families when we had Thanksgiving, etc. ... it really was just us there.  Now, they did of course have telephones in the US, but they were few and far between in impoverished Communist Hungary.  Even when I went to visit there in 1976, the village many of our extended family lived in had exactly one single telephone, and it was owned by a doctor who happened to live there.  But now we have phones AND we've got things like Zoom and Facetime, etc.  Still not the same as being there in person, of course ... but it's not a horrible alternative compared to back in the day.  I've you can splurge for it, there are companies that have these setups where everything is arranged so that you really do feel like you're in the same room.

    NOW ... I know that some of us here wouldn't mind if at least some of our extended family lived far away. :laugh1: