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Re: Official Trad Girlfriend Application Form
« Reply #15 on: December 28, 2020, 05:57:48 PM »
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  • Yes, a great deal can be learned about the author's personal history, like this:
    13. Are you a virgin?: ____
    14. If you answered "yes" to question 13, but are over the age of 16 please explain how this is possible:
    A traditional Catholic who is not rationalizing his own illicit behavior would not be projecting such low moral standards onto others (even as a joke.)
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    Yes, I apologize for that part. I agree that it is in poor taste.

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    Re: Official Trad Girlfriend Application Form
    « Reply #16 on: December 28, 2020, 09:17:15 PM »
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    I think part of the reason it's so funny for me is because it's hard to tell exactly who is being pilloried here. It's capable of various interpretations. Is it making fun of trad women who are influenced by modern ideas? That's one possible interpretation. Is it making fun of men who want women to fulfill more traditional roles in society and in marriage? That's also possible. It kind of looks to me more like a self-parody than a parody of someone else. I'm not sure; it's sort of a Rorschach test in which everyone sees their own ideas, I think. There are multiple layers here, which I think is part of what makes it so clever.
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    It's really very simple.  TC women, with a good amount of justification, want a man who can bring in enough income, and whose job is secure enough, for them to be able to have several children and stay at home instead of being in the workplace.  Time was, pretty much any Joe Schmo could pull this off with minimal education coupled with a donkey-load of hard work.  Nowadays, it's a real hat trick.  A lot of guys just don't have that ability, and they never will.  They're not lazy, they just can't pull down those kinds of bucks.  Very few women want to sign on to a life of poverty.  And don't take this as a slap towards the female sex, but many women have an "all or nothing at all" mentality --- "if I can't have the best, I just won't have anyone".  At least that's been my experience.

    But it's a two-way street.  Quite frankly, men tend to have tastes, especially in the physical department, that are beyond their ability to fulfill --- "champagne tastes on a beer pocketbook", applied to women.  They want a more attractive woman (and let's face it, looks are huge when it comes to men being attracted to women) than they could ever realistically get.  Personally, I find the idea of an intelligent woman with whom I can converse as a peer, about the things that really matter (and I refer not just to religion), just as appealing, if not more so, than appearance, but that doesn't seem to be a motivator for many men.  They can't get what they want, they have a hard time settling for what they could get, so their thinking, too, is a variation on the theme of "if I can't have the best, I just won't have anyone".

    And on both sides, the number of TCs in general is so small, that just being brutally honest, there aren't a whole lot to choose from, whether women seeking men, or men seeking women.

    In short, women need to lower their financial expectations, and men need to lower their appearance expectations.

    I plead guilty as charged, to having placed an inordinate amount of emphasis upon appearance, in my dating and courtship days.

    And here's some wisdom I've shared before, from none other than that great philosopher of the human condition, Jimmy Soul:





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    Re: Official Trad Girlfriend Application Form
    « Reply #17 on: December 28, 2020, 09:33:45 PM »
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  • Same with this one:
    22. On a scale of 1 to 10 how hot are you (with 1 representing Gertrude Stein and 10 representing Megan Fox, modestly dressed of course): ____________

    I suppose most people know who Gertrude Stein and Megan Fox are, but I haven't a clue.

    Stein was an author in the early 1900s. Not really memorable except for her connections with more significant artists like Picasso, Matisse and Hemingway. She happens to fit into a repulsive current agenda.

    Fox is a current actress, but I don't see why someone would choose her as an epitome of beauty, unless this is part of the parody.

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    Re: Official Trad Girlfriend Application Form
    « Reply #18 on: December 28, 2020, 09:55:38 PM »
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  • No offense to my wife of course (well, I doubt Michael Bay would hire her to be immodest in one of his big budget, explosion-filled movies) but this is pretty much my advice as well.
    You need to focus on what she HAS, not what she DOESN'T HAVE. There are as many "features" as there are parts of the human body. But there is voice, personality, height, hair, hair color, eyes, face shape, mouth/smile, hands, arms, and many others. And then there's the stuff that makes her unique -- virtues, talents, skills/education, upbringing, background, culture, interests, sense of humor, faith, etc. Furthermore, women age at different rates. And oftentimes the biggest "beauties" are partly fake, due to makeup. And those 10's often age the quickest.
    In my opinion the guys going after the "10" have been spoiled by porn use at some point in their past. I was never driven to go after 10's, because A) I wouldn't be comfortable there, and B) I have never liked having tons of competition in this area. I preferred to find someone I really liked who was basically being overlooked by most -- and fortunately I was able to find such a one.
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    Re: Official Trad Girlfriend Application Form
    « Reply #19 on: December 29, 2020, 12:51:45 AM »
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  • No offense to my wife of course (well, I doubt Michael Bay would hire her to be immodest in one of his big budget, explosion-filled movies) but this is pretty much my advice as well.
    You need to focus on what she HAS, not what she DOESN'T HAVE. There are as many "features" as there are parts of the human body. But there is voice, personality, height, hair, hair color, eyes, face shape, mouth/smile, hands, arms, and many others. And then there's the stuff that makes her unique -- virtues, talents, skills/education, upbringing, background, culture, interests, sense of humor, faith, etc. Furthermore, women age at different rates. And oftentimes the biggest "beauties" are partly fake, due to makeup. And those 10's often age the quickest.
    In my opinion the guys going after the "10" have been spoiled by porn use at some point in their past. I was never driven to go after 10's, because A) I wouldn't be comfortable there, and B) I have never liked having tons of competition in this area. I preferred to find someone I really liked who was basically being overlooked by most -- and fortunately I was able to find such a one.
    Some very wise words.  I can't imagine the thinking of a man who would say "I got myself a real beauty, but man oh man, did I ever have to try and win her over --- the thrill of the chase, all that competition, she had to beat them away with a stick, but I won the contest!".  It may scratch a woman's narcissistic itch, to think they were this great prize won in a competition, but that is all vanity and pride.  In my dotage, I find plainness in a woman to be more and more appealing (not for myself, in the Eyes of God I have a wife, she has just chosen to damn her soul with an illicit consort).  If I were doing it over, I would want to concentrate on someone who, as you put it, "was basically being overlooked by most".  I have to think they make by far the best wives.


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    Re: Official Trad Girlfriend Application Form
    « Reply #20 on: December 29, 2020, 07:16:35 AM »
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  • Stein was an author in the early 1900s. Not really memorable except for her connections with more significant artists like Picasso, Matisse and Hemingway. She happens to fit into a repulsive current agenda.

    Fox is a current actress, but I don't see why someone would choose her as an epitome of beauty, unless this is part of the parody.
    I finally did think to look up Fox on the IMBD, figuring she was probably an actress.  I never heard of most of the movies and tv shows she was in and never saw any of the movies and tv shows I had heard of.  I'm guessing it was part of the parody since her name is fox, as in "foxy"?

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    Re: Official Trad Girlfriend Application Form
    « Reply #21 on: December 29, 2020, 07:54:28 AM »
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  • I finally did think to look up Fox on the IMBD, figuring she was probably an actress.  I never heard of most of the movies and tv shows she was in and never saw any of the movies and tv shows I had heard of.  I'm guessing it was part of the parody since her name is fox, as in "foxy"?

    I believe she is a modern actress who starred in Michael Bay's Transformers movie(s). Let's just say she was hired for her body. Michael Bay plays to the lowest common denominator. 

    He caters to the sensibilities of the 12-year-old boy crowd.

    Let's put it this way -- if a worldly, crude 12 year old boy somehow was made director of a movie, that's what Michael Bay is like.
    "Let's have another explosion here!"
    "Have her lean over the car -- and she needs to wear this."

    You get the idea.

    That's the only thing I have in my brain under "Megan Fox". You know the saying "before my time"? Well, she's after my time. I used to watch a youtube series about modern movies, since I'm interested in what Hollywood is up to on a macro scale (propaganda, trends, etc.). I stopped watched said series because I got fed up with the regular blasphemy.
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    Re: Official Trad Girlfriend Application Form
    « Reply #22 on: December 29, 2020, 10:50:46 AM »
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    That one puzzles me too. I think most likely it's just an inside joke with the author, like maybe he had a bad experience with someone named Laura.
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    Back in the day, there was 'Lauragate.' A user named Laura, who claimed to be a ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ with a terminal illness, created an account on FE. Really long story short, it turned out that the whole thing was not only a hoax but that the site admin's live-in-boyfriend (yes), who was the tech-mind behind the FE site, was having a (virtual?) affair with Laura.  As memory serves.  This was about ten years ago.
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    Part of the drama was that whoever made the Laura account also made another account (Laura's friend, 'morecoffee,' I believe) and posted that Laura died at one point. Anyways, eventually the whole ball of lies/wax was unfurled and it was pretty ugly. 
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    Though it was rather overshadowed by Impygate, I think.
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    FE is a really f@#ed up place.  You'd think it'd be enough that the whole place is just really, really vanilla in its traditionalism.  But no, there's plenty of cohabitation, ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ apologizing, infidelity, fornication, transgender porn, etc. to go around too.
    "Be kind; do not seek the malicious satisfaction of having discovered an additional enemy to the Church... And, above all, be scrupulously truthful. To all, friends and foes alike, give that serious attention which does not misrepresent any opinion, does not distort any statement, does not mutilate any quotation. We need not fear to serve the cause of Christ less efficiently by putting on His spirit". (Vermeersch, 1913).


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    Re: Official Trad Girlfriend Application Form
    « Reply #23 on: December 29, 2020, 11:05:12 AM »
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    Back in the day, there was 'Lauragate.' A user named Laura, who claimed to be a ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ with a terminal illness, created an account on FE. Really long story short, it turned out that the whole thing was not only a hoax but that the site admin's live-in-boyfriend (yes), who was the tech-mind behind the FE site, was having a (virtual?) affair with Laura.  As memory serves.  This was about ten years ago.
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    Part of the drama was that whoever made the Laura account also made another account (Laura's friend, 'morecoffee,' I believe) and posted that Laura died at one point. Anyways, eventually the whole ball of lies/wax was unfurled and it was pretty ugly.  
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    Though it was rather overshadowed by Impygate, I think.
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    Ah, I wondered whether Laura was somehow connected with Impy.  I don't think I was around for either, and I was banned from FE fairly quickly.

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    Re: Official Trad Girlfriend Application Form
    « Reply #24 on: December 29, 2020, 11:15:17 AM »
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  • Ah, I wondered whether Laura was somehow connected with Impy.  I don't think I was around for either, and I was banned from FE fairly quickly.
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    There's no direct connection (in that the operators of both accounts are totally different people who never met each other, so far as I can tell), but there is definitely a thematic connection in that the sagas involving both parties laid bare the site admin's very twisted tolerance for sɛҳuąƖ impropriety and degeneracy.
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    In the case of Lauragate, Vox was the 'victim' insofar as it was her live-in-boyfriend who ditched her-- but still, the fact that she was administering a site designed to draw people to the life, faith, and culture of traditional Catholicism all the while living as she was caused great scandal.  She defended this as well.
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    The whole Impy thing was really sick. For those who are unaware, a user named 'Impy' (a man from the east coast) 'came out' as transgender and Vox not only defended Impy but empowered him-- making him an admin, encouraging him to continue with estrogen 'treatments', changing his screen name to 'ClareBrigid', allowing him to post images of the 'transition,' etc. And banning anyone who objected to the moral rectitude of the whole thing.
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    The usual refrain from Vox and her supporters was that those who objected were pharisees who just couldn't handle the fact that people have 'pasts.'  A (hopefully obviously) vain retort to the specific incidents under consideration.
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    Recounting these things as artifacts of the past makes me feel very old.
    "Be kind; do not seek the malicious satisfaction of having discovered an additional enemy to the Church... And, above all, be scrupulously truthful. To all, friends and foes alike, give that serious attention which does not misrepresent any opinion, does not distort any statement, does not mutilate any quotation. We need not fear to serve the cause of Christ less efficiently by putting on His spirit". (Vermeersch, 1913).

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    Re: Official Trad Girlfriend Application Form
    « Reply #25 on: December 29, 2020, 11:30:41 AM »
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  • ClareBrigid tried to befriend me, but I can't remember how my time there fits in with everything.  I don't recall the turmoil on the site.  Perhaps I came on board just after it when ClareBrigid was now posting as a "woman".


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    Re: Official Trad Girlfriend Application Form
    « Reply #26 on: December 29, 2020, 11:31:35 AM »
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    Back in the day, there was 'Lauragate.' A user named Laura, who claimed to be a ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ with a terminal illness, created an account on FE. Really long story short, it turned out that the whole thing was not only a hoax but that the site admin's live-in-boyfriend (yes), who was the tech-mind behind the FE site, was having a (virtual?) affair with Laura.  As memory serves.  This was about ten years ago.
    .
    Part of the drama was that whoever made the Laura account also made another account (Laura's friend, 'morecoffee,' I believe) and posted that Laura died at one point. Anyways, eventually the whole ball of lies/wax was unfurled and it was pretty ugly.  
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    Though it was rather overshadowed by Impygate, I think.
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    FE is a really f@#ed up place.  You'd think it'd be enough that the whole place is just really, really vanilla in its traditionalism.  But no, there's plenty of cohabitation, ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ apologizing, infidelity, fornication, transgender porn, etc. to go around too.
    Aahhh yes, that makes more sense, I got impy queer mixed up with Laura. Glad I forgot that mess lol
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    Re: Official Trad Girlfriend Application Form
    « Reply #27 on: December 29, 2020, 11:55:26 AM »
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    There's no direct connection (in that the operators of both accounts are totally different people who never met each other, so far as I can tell), but there is definitely a thematic connection in that the sagas involving both parties laid bare the site admin's very twisted tolerance for sɛҳuąƖ impropriety and degeneracy.
    .
    In the case of Lauragate, Vox was the 'victim' insofar as it was her live-in-boyfriend who ditched her-- but still, the fact that she was administering a site designed to draw people to the life, faith, and culture of traditional Catholicism all the while living as she was caused great scandal.  She defended this as well.
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    The whole Impy thing was really sick. For those who are unaware, a user named 'Impy' (a man from the east coast) 'came out' as transgender and Vox not only defended Impy but empowered him-- making him an admin, encouraging him to continue with estrogen 'treatments', changing his screen name to 'ClareBrigid', allowing him to post images of the 'transition,' etc. And banning anyone who objected to the moral rectitude of the whole thing.
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    The usual refrain from Vox and her supporters was that those who objected were pharisees who just couldn't handle the fact that people have 'pasts.'  A (hopefully obviously) vain retort to the specific incidents under consideration.
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    Recounting these things as artifacts of the past makes me feel very old.

    :facepalm:

    I was not active enough on FE to have known these details, but reading this makes me feel honored that I got kicked off.  

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    Re: Official Trad Girlfriend Application Form
    « Reply #28 on: December 29, 2020, 12:07:43 PM »
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  • ClareBrigid tried to befriend me, but I can't remember how my time there fits in with everything.  I don't recall the turmoil on the site.  Perhaps I came on board just after it when ClareBrigid was now posting as a "woman".
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    Impy's transition was so inspirational that Vox appointed him to administer 'the welcome wagon' which meant he was in charge of making sure new users felt nice and comfortable. 
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    Nothing says 'traditional Catholic forum' like having a tranny be the greeter and gatekeeper. 
    "Be kind; do not seek the malicious satisfaction of having discovered an additional enemy to the Church... And, above all, be scrupulously truthful. To all, friends and foes alike, give that serious attention which does not misrepresent any opinion, does not distort any statement, does not mutilate any quotation. We need not fear to serve the cause of Christ less efficiently by putting on His spirit". (Vermeersch, 1913).

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    Re: Official Trad Girlfriend Application Form
    « Reply #29 on: December 29, 2020, 12:09:20 PM »
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    Impy's transition was so inspirational that Vox appointed him to administer 'the welcome wagon' which meant he was in charge of making sure new users felt nice and comfortable.  
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    Nothing says 'traditional Catholic forum' like having a tranny be the greeter and gatekeeper.
    I just took a gander over there and ClareBrigid was online.