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Title: New Jersey Drones
Post by: Viva Cristo Rey on December 15, 2024, 03:31:40 PM
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Title: Re: New Jersey Drones
Post by: Seraphina on December 15, 2024, 04:40:36 PM
I knew there was a good explanation.  
Title: Re: New Jersey Drones
Post by: AMDGJMJ on December 16, 2024, 05:15:18 AM
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Oh wow!  I opened this thread expecting something completely different.  :laugh1: :laugh1: :laugh1:
Title: Re: New Jersey Drones
Post by: josefamenendez on December 16, 2024, 07:38:21 AM
That was great!

Here's a vid that's a little more serious.
Now they are reporting the drones are seeking radiation.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RTkFxTYcATo&t=985s

https://www.newsweek.com/missing-nuclear-material-drone-sightings-new-york-new-jersey-2001189

https://x.com/i/status/1868042627360403849
Title: Re: New Jersey Drones
Post by: Mr G on December 16, 2024, 09:09:04 AM
Hal Turner Radio Show - Drone Mystery Solved . . . . U.S. Military . . . . Naval Air Warfare Center Aircraft Division (NAWCAD) (https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/news-selections/national-news/drone-mystery-solved-u-s-military-naval-air-warfare-center-aircraft-division-nawcad)

(https://i.imgur.com/LQWdrQb.png)
Title: Re: New Jersey Drones
Post by: Geremia on December 16, 2024, 04:24:30 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8Sruaag_CE
Title: Re: New Jersey Drones
Post by: Cera on December 16, 2024, 04:52:37 PM
https://www.twz.com/air/u-s-air-force-confirms-drone-sightings-over-ramstein-air-base-in-germany

U.S. Air Force Confirms Drone Sightings Over Ramstein Air Base In Germany
As well as over the major U.S. military air base and logistics hub, drones have been reported around critical infrastructure in Germany.
Thomas Newdick (https://www.twz.com/authors/thomas-newdick)
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(https://www.twz.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/12/RAMSTEIN-AIR-BASE.jpg?quality=85) Photo by Boris Roessler/picture alliance via Getty Images

 Germany is the latest country to report mysterious drone activity over an air base on its territory, specifically the sprawling U.S. facility at Ramstein (https://www.twz.com/38131/ramstein-air-base-in-germany-experiences-potential-incoming-missile-scare), alongside similar incidents over critical industrial sites. The developments follow previous suspicious drone flights reported over infrastructure in Germany and a spate of security incidents at other air bases in the country earlier this year. Since then, U.S. Air Force facilities in England have also reported multiple drone incursions (https://www.twz.com/air/multiple-drone-incident-just-occurred-over-usaf-fighter-base-in-england), which so far remain unexplained, while the United States is now deep into a wave of drone hysteria (https://www.twz.com/news-features/coast-guard-ship-stalked-by-unidentified-aircraft-iran-drone-mothership-claim-shot-down-by-dod) after similar reports out of bases on the East Coast (https://www.twz.com/air/drones-over-new-jersey-show-signs-of-coordination-elude-helicopters-state-officials).
“Possible spy drones” have been noted “several times” flying over Ramstein Air Base, the main U.S. Air Force hub in Western Europe, according to a story (https://www.spiegel.de/panorama/justiz/spionage-drohnen-ueber-ramstein-rheinmetall-und-basf-gesichtet-a-e97bfa4c-e7fb-4d33-9a69-9e109968787b) published today by the Spiegel news magazine, citing a confidential report by German security authorities. Other similar incidents have been reported in the vicinity of the chemical company BASF, headquartered in Ludwigshafen, and the defense firm Rheinmetall. These companies are based in Rhineland-Palatinate, southwestern Germany — the same state in which Ramstein is located.
Soldiers of the U.S. Army Europe’s 10th Army Air and Missile Defense Command, who operate Patriot anti-missile systems, load cargo on board a C-5 Galaxy for Turkey at Ramstein Air Base, Germany. Photo by Thomas Lohnes/Getty Images Thomas Lohnes
In the case of Ramstein, “numerous” drone sightings were reported in the evening hours of Dec. 3 and 4.
The Ramstein incidents have been confirmed by the U.S. military, with a spokeswoman for the base telling the Spiegel: “In early December, there were several sightings of small unmanned aerial systems in the area and over Ramstein Air Base, they had no impact on the residents of the base and on the facilities and military equipment there.” The spokeswoman confirmed that the base is now “in close coordination” with the German authorities regarding the incident.
(https://www.twz.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/12/Ramstein.webp?strip=all&quality=85&amp%3Bw=1024)Ramstein Air Base in Germany. Google Earth
As for Rheinmetall, this company has been at the forefront of German defense support for Ukraine since the full-scale invasion by Russia in 2022. The firm describes itself (https://www.rheinmetall.com/en/media/stories/2023/rheinmetall-a-powerful-partner-at-ukraine-side) as “Ukraine’s most important defense industry partner in the fight against Russian aggression.”
Among Ukraine-related projects the company is involved in are the manufacturing of artillery ammunition and Lynx infantry fighting vehicles (https://www.twz.com/this-optionally-manned-lynx-could-replace-armys-bradley-fighting-vehicles), the training of Ukrainian specialists in the maintenance and repair of combat vehicles, as well as helping establish manufacturing and maintenance hubs in Ukraine.
(https://www.twz.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/12/GettyImages-2185931747.jpg?strip=all&quality=85&amp%3Bw=1024)A Ukrainian-operated Rheinmetall MAN military truck on the road in Donetsk Oblast, eastern Ukraine, Nov. 20, 2024. Photo by Yan Dobronosov/Global Images Ukraine via Getty Images Global Images Ukraine
Recent weeks have seen a string of reported drone incidents over U.S. Air Force bases in England (https://www.twz.com/air/multiple-drone-incident-just-occurred-over-usaf-fighter-base-in-england) as well as multiple sightings (https://www.twz.com/air/drones-over-new-jersey-show-signs-of-coordination-elude-helicopters-state-officials) in the United States, notably over New Jersey (https://www.twz.com/air/white-house-says-none-of-the-new-jersey-visual-drone-sightings-have-been-corroborated). However, there have been reports of unexplained drone activity in Germany dating back to this summer.
In particular, there were reports (https://www.dw.com/en/germany-investigates-drone-flights-over-industrial-park/a-70021895) from the north of Germany, including over an industrial park in Brunsbüttel, northwest of Hamburg, which is home to a major floating liquid natural gas (LNG) terminal (https://www.dw.com/en/third-floating-lng-terminal-arrives-in-northern-germany/a-64462246).
At the time, prosecutors in Germany said they considered it likely the drone flights were related to “espionage activity for sabotage purposes” and also cited “repeated” drone flights over “critical infrastructure.”
Reports of drone flights over Brunsbüttel began on Aug. 8 and it’s been claimed that the craft have proven difficult to track due to their high speeds — reportedly around 60 miles per hour — and their approach from the sea.
Two ships carrying liquefied natural gas (LNG) docked in the Elbe port of Brunsbüttel, Germany, in April 2024. Photo by Axel Heimken/picture alliance via Getty Images picture alliance
The local public prosecutor’s office launched an investigation into the Brunsbüttel incidents, on suspicion of “agent activity for sabotage purposes.” The same topic was discussed by the German Interior Ministry, but they were unable to agree on a joint approach to countering the spy flights, according to the Spiegel.
Other unusual activity in Germany in recent months includes a security alert at Geilenkirchen Air Base in August, which you can read more about here (https://www.twz.com/air/sabotage-confirmed-at-norwegian-air-base). This was due to fears of a possible Russian drone attack, according to a German media report.
An unnamed source within German intelligence confirmed that the security scare at Geilenkirchen was caused by signs “of preparatory actions for a likely Russian act of sabotage” using a drone, the Deutsche Presse-Agentur reported today. The tip-off reportedly (https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/alert-nato-base-germany-was-due-drone-threat-source-says-2024-08-26/) came from an undisclosed foreign intelligence service.
The entrance to Geilenkirchen Air Base, on Aug. 23, 2024, a day after the base announced that it was raising its threat level and ordered all non-mission-essential staff to work remotely. Photo by Sascha Schuermann/Getty Images Sascha Schuermann
On the other hand, an unnamed security source told Reuters that no drones had been seen in the vicinity of Geilenkirchen and that they could not confirm any evidence of a Russian role.
“The word Russia was never mentioned. We talked about a threat caused by drones,” a NATO spokesperson at Geilenkirchen told Reuters.
The drone scare at Geilenkirchen followed a security alert the previous week, in response to reports of an attempted trespassing incident (https://www.voanews.com/a/nato-air-base-in-germany-raises-security-level-due-to-potential-threat-/7753724.html) at the base. This came at the same time as fears of possible sabotage of the water supply at nearby Wahn Barracks. A full sweep was made of the premises at Geilenkirchen without finding any trespassers, while the Wahn Barracks incident proved to be a false alarm.
While there has been no evidence of Russia being behind these incidents in Germany, they have all led to speculation about possible Kremlin involvement.
This comes amid growing concerns of Russian-inspired aggression against Germany, including drones (https://www.dw.com/en/germany-investigates-drone-flights-over-industrial-park/a-70021895), but also involving various other ‘hybrid warfare’ (https://www.twz.com/14867/russia-breaks-into-us-soldiers-iphones-in-apparent-hybrid-warfare-attacks) tactics.
Meanwhile, however, there’s no doubt that Germany — and its military bases — have been directly targeted.
In April of this year, two German-Russian nationals were arrested (https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/germany-arrests-two-alleged-military-sabotage-plot-behalf-russia-2024-04-18) in Germany on suspicion of plotting sabotage attacks, including on U.S. military facilities in the country. One of those individuals was accused of making plans to carry out bomb and arson attacks on military facilities and had allegedly taken photos and videos of military transports and equipment.
The sabotage attacks appear to have been a direct response to the war in Ukraine, in which Germany has been a key backer of Kyiv, alongside the U.S. military in Germany, which uses bases there for transshipment as well as training Ukrainian soldiers there.
One of the targets of the sabotage attacks was the U.S. Army’s Grafenwoehr (https://www.twz.com/24613/the-u-s-army-once-blew-up-tunnels-in-a-german-town-to-chase-away-a-ghost) base in the southern state of Bavaria, where Ukrainian soldiers are trained to use U.S.-supplied M1 Abrams tanks (https://www.twz.com/ukraine-situation-report-m1-abrams-training-tanks-arrive-in-germany).



Title: Re: New Jersey Drones
Post by: Yeti on December 16, 2024, 05:59:21 PM
U.S. Air Force Confirms Drone Sightings Over Ramstein Air Base In Germany

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This is utterly ridiculous. You can't fly over military bases. If someone were to fly a plane over one of them, he would be warned over the radio to turn around. If he continued flying over the air base, he would probably be shot down with anti-aircraft machine guns or surface-to-air missiles.

Why doesn't the military just shoot down unauthorized drones flying over controlled airspace?! They have plenty of means of doing so. Shoot the thing down, look at it and figure out who it belongs to and where it came from, and blow them up.

This really doesn't take a genius to understand.
Title: Re: New Jersey Drones
Post by: Yeti on December 16, 2024, 06:20:09 PM
In other words, I didn't know anyone could fly a drone over a military base and they won't do anything about it. America is becoming a laughingstock across the world.
Title: Re: New Jersey Drones
Post by: Geremia on December 16, 2024, 08:36:24 PM
Recon (such as sniffing for a dirty bomb) is a possibility.
Title: Re: New Jersey Drones
Post by: Mr G on December 18, 2024, 08:10:07 AM
The night drone sometime looks like a triangle, other times as a standard aircraft, look at this and compare with the pictures of the New Jersey drones.

Autonomous Aircrafts: Vertical Take Off And Landing (VTOL) | Drones (https://pterodynamics.com/)

Autonomous Aircrafts: Vertical Take Off And Landing (VTOL) | Drones (https://pterodynamics.com/)


PteroDynamics Transwing RIMPAC 2024 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TqkPcS4OrSs&t=43s)

PteroDynamics is pleased to be partnered with Leidos for DARPA's Ancillary program. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KSjG78cUKKw&t=116s)
Title: Re: New Jersey Drones
Post by: Cera on December 18, 2024, 02:21:45 PM
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This is utterly ridiculous. You can't fly over military bases.
I agree. What makes this look like a psy op/ gaslighting is that these are being allowed to do so. The source is a non-political website focused on  military news.
Title: Re: New Jersey Drones
Post by: Yeti on December 18, 2024, 02:34:48 PM
I agree. What makes this look like a psy op/ gaslighting is that these are being allowed to do so. The source is a non-political website focused on  military news.
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I'm not sure what to make of it. One theory is that the reason the government isn't shooting these things down is because they belong to the government, and the government is flying those things around. Why they would be doing so, and why they would deny knowing anything about them, is unknown.

I suspect some of them are just airplanes being mistaken for drones. There is definitely a certain amount of mass hysteria going on. I saw a video put up on Twitter by a former governor of Maryland who claimed he had taken a video of drones flying over his house, and it's really just a video of a couple of stars that are peeking through a few thin areas in a cloud cover. Why he thought they were drones is pretty bizarre.
Title: Re: New Jersey Drones
Post by: Yeti on December 18, 2024, 02:36:22 PM
I'm not sure about the theory that they are looking for radioactive material. If the government were trying to look for a radioactive device, wouldn't they put whatever sensors these drones have into vans or cars, and just drive them around looking for the radioactive material instead? Then nobody would even know they were doing it. Why would they look for the stuff in the most visible, attention-getting manner possible?
Title: Re: New Jersey Drones
Post by: Cera on December 18, 2024, 02:39:19 PM
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 There is definitely a certain amount of mass hysteria going on.
That happens to be the goal of government psychological operations like gaslighting.