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It's 'a child, not a goldfish': New dad-to-be is livid as wife pulls power play over baby's name
By Maureen Mackey
Published October 14, 2023
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A couple about to have their first child together (https://www.foxnews.com/category/lifestyle/parenting) are fighting over what to name their baby, and 3,000 people as of Saturday morning have chimed in with comments about it. Another 5,000-plus gave a reaction.
A man who described himself as 25 years old shared in a social media post that he and his wife, who is 23, are "having our first child together."
"She is currently 9 months pregnant and could give birth [at] any time," he wrote.
TAYLOR SWIFT'S EXES: BABY NAMES INSPIRED BY THE SINGER'S FORMER FLAMES REVEALED (https://www.foxnews.com/lifestyle/taylor-swifts-exes-baby-names-inspired-singers-former-flames-revealed)
"The only major fight we have had throughout her pregnancy happened a couple of days ago, and it was about what we were going to name our kid," he wrote on Reddit's AITA page ("Am I the a--hole?").
"It all started when we found out the gender of the baby. We didn’t do a gender reveal and decided to find out the gender at one of her checkups because we didn’t want to spend time making two lists of names, then have to get rid of one after.
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"After we found out we were having a boy, we sat down together and made a list," a husband and father-to-be shared with others. He then revealed what happened that has caused a rift in the marriage. (iStock)
"After we found out we were having a boy, we sat down together and made a list. Almost all of the names she suggested were normal, until the one that caused me to write this post," he added.
"She suggested we name our son Mune. She told me the name was from this movie she watched when she was younger and that it always stuck with her.
"I told her the name was a little out there (https://www.foxnews.com/category/odd-news) and he [the new baby] would get made fun of for it.
The party "was fine for the most part until we started to open the gifts. Most of them were normal baby things like diapers and bottles, until we got to her mom's gift."
"She claimed he wouldn’t and we started going back and forth trying to decide whether to add the name to the list or not. Eventually she agreed to keep the name off the list, we picked some that we liked — and I thought that was that."
TIKTOK USER OBSESSED WITH BABY NAMES HELPS PARENTS PICK THEIR CHILD'S MONIKER (https://www.foxnews.com/lifestyle/tiktok-user-obsessed-baby-names-helps-parents-pick-childs-moniker)
The man, who goes by the username Public-Praline-3691, added, "Later on in her pregnancy, her mom decided to throw a baby shower, (https://www.foxnews.com/category/lifestyle/occasions) as it was her first grandchild, and my wife's pregnancy was almost over and we hadn't celebrated once."
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The new father-to-be wrote that he "had family members come up to me and ask me about the name and why I hadn't told them." (iStock)
He said the party "was fine for the most part until we started to open the gifts. Most of them were normal baby things like diapers and bottles, until we got to her mom's gift.
"My wife opened the gift bag and pulled out a blue handmade blanket. It seemed normal enough at first until my wife unfolded it, and [lo] and behold, there was the name Mune written on the blanket."
The father-to-be added, "When I saw it, I was p---ed but didn’t want to cause a scene, so I stayed quiet."
BABY NAMES THAT STOOD OUT IN THE 1950S — FROM ROGER TO ROBIN (https://www.foxnews.com/lifestyle/baby-names-stood-1950s-roger-robin)
He said "after that reveal, I had family members (https://www.foxnews.com/family) come up to me and ask me about the name and why I hadn't told them."
He added in his post that he "didn't know what to tell them, as I didn't have a clue about this either and just had to embarrassingly tell my family that — which p---ed me off even more."
The man went on to share that "once the event ended and me and my wife went home, I started to question her about the name."
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A man said his wife, a mom-to-be, "left" after their argument "and told me she wouldn’t be coming back for a while." (iStock)
"She got defensive and told me that it was a good name and that I was overreacting about it," he added. "I brought up the earlier points and told her it was a stupid name for a kid and if she wanted to name something Mune so bad, she could use the name for a dog.
"She got upset and called her mom to come get her. After she left she called me and told me she wouldn’t be coming back for a while.
"Everyone I've talked to about this has said I'm not the a--hole, but now that my wife has been gone (https://www.foxnews.com/category/lifestyle/relationships) and I've been thinking about it, I feel like I could have handled the situation better."
POPULAR BABY NAMES FROM ROARING '20S THAT COULD MAKE A COMEBACK, ACCORDING TO '100-YEAR RULE' (https://www.foxnews.com/lifestyle/popular-baby-names-roaring-20s-make-comeback-according-100-year-rule)
He asked if he was in the wrong.
Fox News Digital reached out to a psychologist for insight into the scenario as people on the platform shared their views.
"There are consequences and repercussions to choosing a name that is very unusual to begin with."
Among the top "upvoted" comments was this piece of advice: "You do not name a child something your partner does not agree with. You find a compromise. This is the start of many necessary compromises in life, and it is a total [a--hole] move to unilaterally decide on a child's name despite your partner's misgivings.
"You need to put your foot down HARD on this because what she is doing is 100% not OK. She is absolutely not mature enough for motherhood if she cannot find a reasonable compromise on this."
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This commenter, who said she's the mother of "several kids," also wrote, "The only thing a name like Mune is good for is if your kid ends up the drummer in a metal band."
Another responder chimed in with, "This is a child, not a goldfish. There are consequences and repercussions to choosing a name that is very unusual to begin with ... To go behind the other parent's back and tell a grandparent what the name is going to be — that is unacceptable."
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Someone else put it this way: Rather than worrying "about the name, I would be worried that your wife is deceitful and manipulative."
Another commenter wrote, in part, "What I would do if I [were] you is offer to let it be the middle name or — if she wants to call the child [by that] nickname, then that's on her. But you have to find a middle ground."
Still another said, "Both parents need to make this decision. She needs to realize it's not about what she wants. It's about what you both want."
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It's 'a child, not a goldfish': New dad-to-be is livid as wife pulls power play over baby's name
By Maureen Mackey
Published October 14, 2023
Fox News (https://www.foxnews.com/)
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A couple about to have their first child together (https://www.foxnews.com/category/lifestyle/parenting) are fighting over what to name their baby, and 3,000 people as of Saturday morning have chimed in with comments about it. Another 5,000-plus gave a reaction.
A man who described himself as 25 years old shared in a social media post that he and his wife, who is 23, are "having our first child together."
"She is currently 9 months pregnant and could give birth [at] any time," he wrote.
TAYLOR SWIFT'S EXES: BABY NAMES INSPIRED BY THE SINGER'S FORMER FLAMES REVEALED (https://www.foxnews.com/lifestyle/taylor-swifts-exes-baby-names-inspired-singers-former-flames-revealed)
"The only major fight we have had throughout her pregnancy happened a couple of days ago, and it was about what we were going to name our kid," he wrote on Reddit's AITA page ("Am I the a--hole?").
"It all started when we found out the gender of the baby. We didn’t do a gender reveal and decided to find out the gender at one of her checkups because we didn’t want to spend time making two lists of names, then have to get rid of one after.
(https://a57.foxnews.com/static.foxnews.com/foxnews.com/content/uploads/2023/08/1200/675/pregnant-mom-writes-baby-names.jpg?ve=1&tl=1)
"After we found out we were having a boy, we sat down together and made a list," a husband and father-to-be shared with others. He then revealed what happened that has caused a rift in the marriage. (iStock)
"After we found out we were having a boy, we sat down together and made a list. Almost all of the names she suggested were normal, until the one that caused me to write this post," he added.
"She suggested we name our son Mune. She told me the name was from this movie she watched when she was younger and that it always stuck with her.
"I told her the name was a little out there (https://www.foxnews.com/category/odd-news) and he [the new baby] would get made fun of for it."She claimed he wouldn’t and we started going back and forth trying to decide whether to add the name to the list or not. Eventually she agreed to keep the name off the list, we picked some that we liked — and I thought that was that."
TIKTOK USER OBSESSED WITH BABY NAMES HELPS PARENTS PICK THEIR CHILD'S MONIKER (https://www.foxnews.com/lifestyle/tiktok-user-obsessed-baby-names-helps-parents-pick-childs-moniker)
The man, who goes by the username Public-Praline-3691, added, "Later on in her pregnancy, her mom decided to throw a baby shower, (https://www.foxnews.com/category/lifestyle/occasions) as it was her first grandchild, and my wife's pregnancy was almost over and we hadn't celebrated once."
(https://a57.foxnews.com/static.foxnews.com/foxnews.com/content/uploads/2023/01/1200/675/baby-feet-in-mothers-hands.jpg?ve=1&tl=1)
The new father-to-be wrote that he "had family members come up to me and ask me about the name and why I hadn't told them." (iStock)
He said the party "was fine for the most part until we started to open the gifts. Most of them were normal baby things like diapers and bottles, until we got to her mom's gift.
"My wife opened the gift bag and pulled out a blue handmade blanket. It seemed normal enough at first until my wife unfolded it, and [lo] and behold, there was the name Mune written on the blanket."
The father-to-be added, "When I saw it, I was p---ed but didn’t want to cause a scene, so I stayed quiet."
BABY NAMES THAT STOOD OUT IN THE 1950S — FROM ROGER TO ROBIN (https://www.foxnews.com/lifestyle/baby-names-stood-1950s-roger-robin)
He said "after that reveal, I had family members (https://www.foxnews.com/family) come up to me and ask me about the name and why I hadn't told them."
He added in his post that he "didn't know what to tell them, as I didn't have a clue about this either and just had to embarrassingly tell my family that — which p---ed me off even more."
The man went on to share that "once the event ended and me and my wife went home, I started to question her about the name."
(https://a57.foxnews.com/static.foxnews.com/foxnews.com/content/uploads/2023/05/1200/675/42c89682-iStock-1063148786.jpg?ve=1&tl=1)
A man said his wife, a mom-to-be, "left" after their argument "and told me she wouldn’t be coming back for a while." (iStock)
"She got defensive and told me that it was a good name and that I was overreacting about it," he added. "I brought up the earlier points and told her it was a stupid name for a kid and if she wanted to name something Mune so bad, she could use the name for a dog.
"She got upset and called her mom to come get her. After she left she called me and told me she wouldn’t be coming back for a while.
"Everyone I've talked to about this has said I'm not the a--hole, but now that my wife has been gone (https://www.foxnews.com/category/lifestyle/relationships) and I've been thinking about it, I feel like I could have handled the situation better."
POPULAR BABY NAMES FROM ROARING '20S THAT COULD MAKE A COMEBACK, ACCORDING TO '100-YEAR RULE' (https://www.foxnews.com/lifestyle/popular-baby-names-roaring-20s-make-comeback-according-100-year-rule)
He asked if he was in the wrong.
Fox News Digital reached out to a psychologist for insight into the scenario as people on the platform shared their views.Among the top "upvoted" comments was this piece of advice: "You do not name a child something your partner does not agree with. You find a compromise. This is the start of many necessary compromises in life, and it is a total [a--hole] move to unilaterally decide on a child's name despite your partner's misgivings.
"You need to put your foot down HARD on this because what she is doing is 100% not OK. She is absolutely not mature enough for motherhood if she cannot find a reasonable compromise on this."
CLICK HERE TO SIGN UP FOR OUR LIFESTYLE NEWSLETTER (https://www.foxnews.com/newsletters?cmpid=fnfirstnl)
This commenter, who said she's the mother of "several kids," also wrote, "The only thing a name like Mune is good for is if your kid ends up the drummer in a metal band."
Another responder chimed in with, "This is a child, not a goldfish. There are consequences and repercussions to choosing a name that is very unusual to begin with ... To go behind the other parent's back and tell a grandparent what the name is going to be — that is unacceptable."
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Someone else put it this way: Rather than worrying "about the name, I would be worried that your wife is deceitful and manipulative."
Another commenter wrote, in part, "What I would do if I [were] you is offer to let it be the middle name or — if she wants to call the child [by that] nickname, then that's on her. But you have to find a middle ground."
Still another said, "Both parents need to make this decision. She needs to realize it's not about what she wants. It's about what you both want."
What is wrong with these 'men'?
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What do you suppose was on the minds of non Japanese, trad Catholic parents who named their baby boy :confused:
太陽 Taiyō or Sun
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I suspect he wasn't completely surprised by this. That sort of behavior wouldn't be an isolated incident.
"Doesn't matter what he wants, I'll just get upset, throw a fit, and get what I want in the end."
Completely childish and he shouldn't have agreed to marry someone that immature.
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I don't mind being the a--hole. Sometimes you have to be. Doesn't bother me a bit.
It seems that in recent years, even among Newchurchers, there has been this Strangelovian-like impulse for parents to name their children anything, anything but a saint's name or a name from the Bible.
If you must, must give your child some trendy, euphonic secular name, at the very least, give him or her a saint's name as a middle name, and baptize using that name.
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I don't mind being the a--hole. Sometimes you have to be. Doesn't bother me a bit.
It seems that in recent years, even among Newchurchers, there has been this Strangelovian-like impulse for parents to name their children anything, anything but a saint's name or a name from the Bible.
If you must, must give your child some trendy, euphonic secular name, at the very least, give him or her a saint's name as a middle name, and baptize using that name.
Or you could choose some obscure saint name such as Cloud.
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What is wrong with these 'men'?
Can you elaborate? It really seems like she's the one in the wrong here.
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Can you elaborate? It really seems like she's the one in the wrong here.
That's what I was thinking.
Besides being weak, having poor choice of spouse, etc.
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Can you elaborate? It really seems like she's the one in the wrong here.
The man should have been more firm in these matters from the getgo. The fact that he had to go to reddit for advice tells me this. Sure seeking counsel is wise but it also reflects the current lack of authority and 'guts' this man has over his spouse. A child's name is a serious matter, this sort of behaviour from the women and co is simply unacceptable.
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The man should have been more firm in these matters from the getgo. The fact that he had to go to reddit for advice tells me this. Sure seeking counsel is wise but it also reflects the current lack of authority and 'guts' this man has over his spouse. A child's name is a serious matter, this sort of behaviour from the women and co is simply unacceptable.
Thank you for the elaboration. I mostly agree, but these days if a man tries to be "too firm" he is automatically labeled an abuser and emasculated, at least in a secular relationship, which is what it sounds like this is. Granted, that's not always the case, and naturally if the man is firm and the woman is actually behaving like a woman and not a child then the firmness works.
Even if he was more firm, these days of, "muh feminalism, muh rights, muh oppression, muh body muh baby" etc. she probably still would have went behind his back if she was willing to do so when they already agreed not to use the name in a compromise and likely he would have been blackballed for raising a justified fuss about it. I completely agree going to reddit for advice was pretty low and yes names are a very serious matter.
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Or you could choose some obscure saint name such as Cloud.
Obscure saints' names are fine. But what we have today, even though I don't think anyone is actually sitting down and going through this process, looks like the parents are thinking, even implicitly, "whatever name we choose, it can't be a saint's name, no way".
I have to imagine there are some Protestants who dislike the idea of giving their children names not from the Bible. Of course, in their case, they wouldn't be interested in names from the history of the Church past the biblical era. Better biblical names than names that have no connection whatsoever to the Faith. I had a distant many-greats-grandmother whose name was Kerenhappuch (from the KJV Book of Job). I had to look that one up. (The Douay renders the name as Cornustubil. I don't know which one is worse.)
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1. Mary
Mary is an anglicized name of Hebrew or Egyptian origin, and it reportedly means "drop of the sea," "bitter" or "beloved," according to Nameberry.
The name has biblical ties, and it makes an appearance in the Christian New Testament, according to Nameberry.
“Makes an appearance “
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The man should have been more firm in these matters from the getgo. The fact that he had to go to reddit for advice tells me this. Sure seeking counsel is wise but it also reflects the current lack of authority and 'guts' this man has over his spouse. A child's name is a serious matter, this sort of behaviour from the women and co is simply unacceptable.
It certainly is, it will effect him his whole life , one way or another.
The Romans has a saying..." nomen est omen", that a name had predictive power in it's destiny.
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These idiots in this generation, put no critical thought into anything.
And the "men" have been so neutered that they've become mere spineless jelly fish at the whims of these "karens" they shack up with.
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This is what Fox thinks is news. Finding a post on Reddit and "reporting" it.
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This is what Fox thinks is news. Finding a post on Reddit and "reporting" it.
Yep, they might as well be like a Buzzfeed.
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This isn't about naming their child. This is about the wife asserting that she will be the primary centre of power over the children. And her partner will be her mother not her husband. The wife probably doesn't even care about the name. What she cares about is if her husband is going to give in to her demands.
This is what happens when a man marries a "princess" rather than a mature woman.
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How do you even pronounce "Mune"?
Myoon?
Moo-NAY?
Moon?
Mune is Japanese for "chest" or "breast". As in, "He crossed the dead man's hands over his breast."
Guess what? Naming your kid "moon" or similar is not unique or new. Frank Zappa did that decades ago.
Ever heard of "Dweezel" and "Moon Unit"?
Sigh...everything old is new again. There's nothing new under the sun.
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As regards the name: These people should remember that they are not just naming a kid, but are also naming an adult.
As regards the woman going against her husband: She is wrong and should submit. But I don't think that that will happen. Her family clearly knew about the name she had selected, meaning that she intentionally withheld it from her husband. This sort of behavior is indicative of a most foul personality.
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How do you even pronounce "Mune"?
Myoon?
Moo-NAY?
Moon?
Mune is Japanese for "chest" or "breast". As in, "He crossed the dead man's hands over his breast."
Guess what? Naming your kid "moon" or similar is not unique or new. Frank Zappa did that decades ago.
Ever heard of "Dweezel" and "Moon Unit"?
Sigh...everything old is new again. There's nothing new under the sun.
If one wants a unique name, one could just choose something from a first millennium saint. Saint Cloud is an example. I'd much rather my kid be named "Cloud" than first names that are more like surnames such as "Cooper" or "Miller."
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I think there's a concerted effort to try to wash away Christian names from society and replace them with either pagan or just worldly names in general.
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I think there's a concerted effort to try to wash away Christian names from society and replace them with either pagan or just worldly names in general.
Yes, I am aghast at how many Mexicans I meet who have been named in Nahuatl after Aztec devils. The Freemasons destroyed the Church in Mexico.
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:laugh2::laugh1: Cornustibul???:facepalm: Poor guy! Or is it a gal?
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I think there's a concerted effort to try to wash away Christian names from society and replace them with either pagan or just worldly names in general.
Mega-dittos to that.
I don't think it's a conscious effort, but I do see the hand of the evil one, in trying to get people to abandon names that have a connection to Christianity.
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:laugh2::laugh1: Cornustibul???:facepalm: Poor guy! Or is it a gal?
It's the name of one of Job's three daughters. "Kerenhappuch" (or, in Jerome's Latin, "Cornustibil") is supposed to be Hebrew for "mascara-case", evidently Kerenhappuch was fond of cosmetics.
You can't make this stuff up (no pun intended). At least it's a biblical name.
I once worked with a lady whose parents named one of their daughters Kelva, because, well, you see, they'd recently bought a Kelvinator refrigerator, and...
I'll give you one guess as to their ethnicity.
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Mega-dittos to that.
I don't think it's a conscious effort, but I do see the hand of the evil one, in trying to get people to abandon names that have a connection to Christianity.
I'm surprised that we have not yet seen (((lawfare))) aimed at renaming cities with Catholic names.
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I'm surprised that we have not yet seen (((lawfare))) aimed at renaming cities with Catholic names.
Shhhh. Don't give them any ideas.
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I once worked with a lady whose parents named one of their daughters Kelva, because, well, you see, they'd recently bought a Kelvinator refrigerator, and...
I'll give you one guess as to their ethnicity.
Personally, I prefer Frigidaire.
I’m sorry, you won the bet. I don’t associate the Kelvinator brand or refrigerators with any particular ethnicity. The only person I’ve encountered with the name Kelvin was a Korean boy in my first grade class. That was his American name that sounded similar to his Korean name. I do not remember the Korean name.
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Personally, I prefer Frigidaire.
I’m sorry, you won the bet. I don’t associate the Kelvinator brand or refrigerators with any particular ethnicity. The only person I’ve encountered with the name Kelvin was a Korean boy in my first grade class. That was his American name that sounded similar to his Korean name. I do not remember the Korean name.
Kelvin would be fine (as would, arguably, be Kelva, there is a St Kelvin, I didn't think of that). The family was African American, an ethnicity known for its high degree of creativity as regards naming their children. "Kelva" is actually very mild, compared to some of the bizarre names they give their children, outrageous spellings (and sometimes mispronunciations) of even halfway-normal names, as well as portmanteaux (that could well be a name right there!), apostrophes, hyphens, capital letters inserted in the middle of names, and so on. It's apparently supposed to be some sort of pseudo-French-cuм-pseudo-African set of inspirations, but they often fail on both counts.
But sometimes good things can happen. The parents whom I cited were Pentecostal, indeed, the father was a Pentecostal preacher, highly regarded in the community --- they were good people, fine family, IIRC they didn't even believe in birth control and just welcomed whatever children the Lord gave them --- but I doubt they were thinking of St Kelvin when they named their daughter, and I knew a black lady who named her son Kyre (pronounced "ky-ree"). I explained to her that this closely resembles "Kyrie", as in kyrie eleison, with which she was familiar as it can be found in the lyrics of a pop song by the 1980s group Mr Mister. The lyrics are inspiring (though not explicitly religious) and this song and video gives you an idea of what popular culture could look like in a properly-organized Catholic society that acknowledges the Reign of Christ the King.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9NDjt4FzFWY&ab_channel=MrMisterVEVO
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You can't make this stuff up
You're right.
True story.
Back in the "60's my daughters first babysitter one day brought a friend with her.
Her name was Crystal and her last name was Lear.
You guessed it: her middle name was Shanda (at least they changed the spelling)
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You're right.
True story.
Back in the "60's my daughters first babysitter one day brought a friend with her.
Her name was Crystal and her last name was Lear.
You guessed it: her middle name was Shanda (at least they changed the spelling)
That’s hilarious!:jester: But l don’t envy the woman! I hope she dropped the middle name and married and her name changed to Johnson or Jones.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9NDjt4FzFWY&ab_channel=MrMisterVEVO
Fans of 1980’s music?
Did they name any of their daughters Lisa Lisa? Or Lisa2 ?
https://youtu.be/If8by9Df4wM?si=i5QE-DidujH6L5vK
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That’s hilarious!:jester: But l don’t envy the woman! I hope she dropped the middle name and married and her name changed to Johnson or Jones.
At the time the babysitter said the kids in high school really teased her about it when they found out.
Some parents were just as stupid back then as now.
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If anyone knows people from the Dominican Republic, the clip below from the movie In the Heights is for laughs but not too far off IRL.
https://youtu.be/8QF50hpypDI?si=u3sFr17F3774qzNx&t=76 (https://youtu.be/8QF50hpypDI?si=u3sFr17F3774qzNx&t=76)
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And then there's Ima Hogg:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ima_Hogg (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ima_Hogg)
Well-regarded lady, unfortunate name.