Please don't become a Novus Ordo priest.

Don't discern it at a Novus Ordo seminary.  The ones who aren't queers are ultimately modernists, and if you persevere in your studies to become ordained, the person performing the ceremony is a doubtful bishop and he will ordain with a suspect rite.  

No, no. you guys don't quite understand. My vocations director regularly celebrates the tlm! I want to recieve formation at OLG Seminary and be ordained in the tlm to serve the church! Killing modernism from the inside...I'll bring new orthodoxy and breadth of teaching to my diocese! i'm so happy. i'm stil in high school, but one day...

Sigh, fighting from within. Haven't you seen what that's accomplished with the FSSP, the ICK, and the other traditional orders?

Have fun with that.

But I can go inside and say the ef, even make the no look more like the ef. I'll fire the EMs and tell the altar girls to beat it.

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But I can go inside and say the ef, even make the no look more like the ef. I'll fire the EMs and tell the altar girls to beat it.

I also applied for the novus ordo conciliar church priesthood with the same ideas as you, but when I learned more about how the church hierarchy hates tradition, as in, the way it allows only fake traditional masses, but still with the same Vatican 2 poison at every opportunity, I changed my mind and now research the CMRI.

Don't make some big mistake you will regret, go join the SSPX or the CMRI, at least then you will be ordained properly by valid bishops.
As a priest in the conciliar church, you will have to mention the pope at your mass and in your sermons. Are you going to sell all the faithful out by propaganda for everything he does? He is not the pope. Look into the matter. He is a formal heritic and hates the Catholic faith, he is probably a freemason.

You cant change the church from the inside when its authorities will suppress any traditional catholic faith in you. Besides you will be placed amidst fαɢɢօts.
All those who stayed as priests in the novus ordo despite all that has gone on cannot justify their position, they have sold us out just for the sake of a uniform.

Go join CMRI.
I wish there was cmri in my country. Look into the matter before you make a big mistake and incur grave sin for idolatry and heresy and membership of a non catholic cult.

TCat.  Are you aware the CMRI is a sedevacantist group.  One of their members declared himself an antipope.  Just research it.  His name was Francis Schuckardt.  He was their founder.  The order is built on insanity and nonsense.  If your going that route you might as well become a feminist Episcopalian vicar who opposes traditional marriage.  The FSSP is an option, as is the ICKSP.  But not the CMRI ever, and probably not the SSPX until they are reconciled with Rome.
  Do not join the CMRI, they are sedevacantists.  The see of rome is occupied by Franciscus Primus.  The CMRI is the same as David Bawden and Palmar de troya.  Do not have anything to do with the CMRI
  The SSPX and the mainstream church are far better options

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But I can go inside and say the ef, even make the no look more like the ef. I'll fire the EMs and tell the altar girls to beat it.

I also applied for the novus ordo conciliar church priesthood with the same ideas as you, but when I learned more about how the church hierarchy hates tradition, as in, the way it allows only fake traditional masses, but still with the same Vatican 2 poison at every opportunity, I changed my mind and now research the CMRI.

Don't make some big mistake you will regret, go join the SSPX or the CMRI, at least then you will be ordained properly by valid bishops.
As a priest in the conciliar church, you will have to mention the pope at your mass and in your sermons. Are you going to sell all the faithful out by propaganda for everything he does? He is not the pope. Look into the matter. He is a formal heritic and hates the Catholic faith, he is probably a freemason.

You cant change the church from the inside when its authorities will suppress any traditional catholic faith in you. Besides you will be placed amidst fαɢɢօts.
All those who stayed as priests in the novus ordo despite all that has gone on cannot justify their position, they have sold us out just for the sake of a uniform.

Go join CMRI.
I wish there was cmri in my country. Look into the matter before you make a big mistake and incur grave sin for idolatry and heresy and membership of a non catholic cult.

TCat.  Are you aware the CMRI is a sedevacantist group.  One of their members declared himself an antipope.  Just research it.  His name was Francis Schuckardt.  He was their founder.  The order is built on insanity and nonsense.  If your going that route you might as well become a feminist Episcopalian vicar who opposes traditional marriage.  The FSSP is an option, as is the ICKSP.  But not the CMRI ever, and probably not the SSPX until they are reconciled with Rome.
  Do not join the CMRI, they are sedevacantists.  The see of rome is occupied by Franciscus Primus.  The CMRI is the same as David Bawden and Palmar de troya.  Do not have anything to do with the CMRI
  The SSPX and the mainstream church are far better options

Well then let me ask you a question, since you appear to be in the same boat as me:

First of all.
1
Do you accept that the posters here are of good will, do you think that i have some malovelence towards you so you do not need to take me seriously?

2
Do you have a problem with the heresies of the Vatican leadership?
3
Do you acknowledge that the leaders of religious orders and those in charge of training priests, are believers in heresy and have got their high positions because of the revolution in the church and they being collaberators with it?

4
Does a true pope put a beach ball and t shirt on the alter?
Does he refuse to be called pope?
Does he bow to muslim queens?
Does he write books that deny Catholic dogma?
Does he wash the feet of muslim women?
Does he kiss children on their mouths?
etc

Francis is an outrageous heretic, he contradicts many Catholic dogmas, he is probably a freemason, he has the support of freemason lodges.
He is trying to change what the religion stands for.

Anyone who is part of the Vatican 2 church will have their faith destroyed from within.
You simply cannot resist as a frail human mind these relentless onslaughts of heresies and subtle anti-Catholic atmospheres that will be all around you in the seminary.

Ive met leaders of religious orders in the V2 sect, and they contradict virtually everything the church stands for!
I argued with them and this is why I could not join.
Also maybe they didn't want me because i was NOT a ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ liberal Catholic, since I was talking about tradition and the Latin mass.

Any traditional minded person in the V2 church is suppressed.
Find this out sooner or later.
There is no changing it from the inside.
It is you who will change because you will be forced to or youre out.

1.  I do accept posters here are of good will, and yes, you do deserve to be taken seriously.

2.  I think that heresy is a word to be thrown at clerics by other clerics.  Yes I agree that there is a gαy faction in the Vatican that has been threatening and terrorizing each pope since john the twenty-third into destroying the fiber of our church

3.  Some, perhaps, but not all.  Many people inside of orthodox institutions teach some heresy, and vice versa.

4.
Does a true pope put a beach ball and t shirt on the alter? sure, but its not a very popely thing to do
Does he refuse to be called pope? I wouldn't see why
Does he bow to muslim queens? the vicar of Christ shouldn't bow to anyone, especially a feminist infidel, but this has nothing to do with his validity as pope
Does he write books that deny Catholic dogma?  If you are talking about the writings of JPII extra ecclessiam nulla salus has had slightly different interpretations throughout church history
Does he wash the feet of muslim women?  This is certaintly unrubrical and the media had a field day kissing his papal bottom for this
Does he kiss children on their mouths? seems unsanitary and weird. but in many European cultures a kiss is viewed differently than it is in the USA. There it has few romantic connotations.  It is odd and I don't like that papal practice
etc

5 and if you are talking about francis schudkart you are absolutely right.  He is a heretic

I didn't mention shukhart, but anyways
I wont get much time to talk to you about this, but I am interested in what becomes of you if you have any success in your mission.

People have broken away from the Vatican, bishops and priests included, and formed their own societies ( where Vatican 2 is not implemented)
SSPX CMRI SSPV

They broke away for a reason.
The SSPX could not operate inside the "church" because the hierarchy was forcing all this liberalism on them and demanding they say the novus ordo mass.
The seminaries were overrun back then with liberal ideas, and still are id imagine ( I know lots of novus ordo priests), and so they had to start their own.

they did not break away for no reason. They could not survive as traditional Catholics within the structure.

If you take me seriously then consider this.
I know some traditional minded priests who are part of the Vatican 2 "church". They can say the TLM, but they must also say the novus ordo.
If someone told them to use alter girls, they would have no choice, they would have to "fall in line with Vatican 2". They would have to get ley people to hand out communion, give communion in the hand, and let them do readings.
They would also have to promote the pope as a great and wise noble leader
... but he isint. He is trying to change Catholic religion.

Look at the website Traditioninaction.org for more insight into the Vatican 2 church.

I am 28, I changed my mind about becoming a Vatican 2 priest / monk. Now I don't know what I will do. I just cant, absolutely cannot, no way, be a part of a church that acts and believes like this.

Real Catholic people have broken away and continued the Catholic church, pure and undiluted, for a reason, the Vatican has betrayed us all and sold us out.

This is what I think anyway and my position will not change, because I had the same ideas as you and put them into practice and know lots of priests and met monks and spoke about this subject to them, and the truth is you will be suppressed and forced to be a liberal, there is no way around it.


edit: I mean to say I put it into practice by trying to convert priests to tradition. They were having none of it. I was never a religious myself. just to clear that up.