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Matto · « **Reply #30 on:** September 02, 2013, 04:54:12 PM »

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They are schismatics, and that is to be admonished, but they are part of the church, as are all baptized people who are not heathens

I think you should know that most sins do not kick you out of the Church, but those who commit the sins of heresy and schism and apostasy are actually cut off from the Church, so it is wrong to say that schismatics are a part of the Church.

DominvsSabaoth · « **Reply #31 on:** September 02, 2013, 04:57:33 PM »

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They are schismatics, and that is to be admonished, but they are part of the church, as are all baptized people who are not heathens

I think you should know that most sins do not kick you out of the Church, but those who commit the sins of heresy and schism and apostasy are actually cut off from the Church, so it is wrong to say that schismatics are a part of the Church.

but if there is not a pope how is there a church?

Mithrandylan · « **Reply #32 on:** September 02, 2013, 05:06:08 PM »

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They are schismatics, and that is to be admonished, but they are part of the church, as are all baptized people who are not heathens

I think you should know that most sins do not kick you out of the Church, but those who commit the sins of heresy and schism and apostasy are actually cut off from the Church, so it is wrong to say that schismatics are a part of the Church.

but if there is not a pope how is there a church?

DS, there have been more than 250 popes in the history of the Church. And each time one of them dies, the Church is without a pope. Sometimes the interegnum (the time between popes) lasts longer than other times. But if you think the Church depends upon a pope, then you must also think the Church has ceased to exist over 250 times. The pope is simply the human representative of God's Church on earth. The Church's true head is Jesus Christ; and the Church is His Mystical Bride.

ggreg · « **Reply #33 on:** September 02, 2013, 05:07:57 PM »

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But I can go inside and say the ef, even make the no look more like the ef. I'll fire the EMs and tell the altar girls to beat it.

How old are you?

DominvsSabaoth · « **Reply #34 on:** September 02, 2013, 05:09:04 PM »

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They are schismatics, and that is to be admonished, but they are part of the church, as are all baptized people who are not heathens

I think you should know that most sins do not kick you out of the Church, but those who commit the sins of heresy and schism and apostasy are actually cut off from the Church, so it is wrong to say that schismatics are a part of the Church.

but if there is not a pope how is there a church?

DS, there have been more than 250 popes in the history of the Church. And each time one of them dies, the Church is without a pope. Sometimes the interegnum (the time between popes) lasts longer than other times. But if you think the Church depends upon a pope, then you must also think the Church has ceased to exist over 250 times. The pope is simply the human representative of God's Church on earth. The Church's true head is Jesus Christ; and the Church is His Mystical Bride.

alright. one question,
are you a bawdenist? a sirianist?

Mithrandylan · « **Reply #35 on:** September 02, 2013, 05:19:52 PM »

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They are schismatics, and that is to be admonished, but they are part of the church, as are all baptized people who are not heathens

I think you should know that most sins do not kick you out of the Church, but those who commit the sins of heresy and schism and apostasy are actually cut off from the Church, so it is wrong to say that schismatics are a part of the Church.

but if there is not a pope how is there a church?

DS, there have been more than 250 popes in the history of the Church. And each time one of them dies, the Church is without a pope. Sometimes the interegnum (the time between popes) lasts longer than other times. But if you think the Church depends upon a pope, then you must also think the Church has ceased to exist over 250 times. The pope is simply the human representative of God's Church on earth. The Church's true head is Jesus Christ; and the Church is His Mystical Bride.

alright. one question,
are you a bawdenist? a sirianist?

You're asking if I think David Bawden or Cardinal Siri are pope? No.

DominvsSabaoth · « **Reply #36 on:** September 02, 2013, 05:24:09 PM »

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They are schismatics, and that is to be admonished, but they are part of the church, as are all baptized people who are not heathens

I think you should know that most sins do not kick you out of the Church, but those who commit the sins of heresy and schism and apostasy are actually cut off from the Church, so it is wrong to say that schismatics are a part of the Church.

but if there is not a pope how is there a church?

DS, there have been more than 250 popes in the history of the Church. And each time one of them dies, the Church is without a pope. Sometimes the interegnum (the time between popes) lasts longer than other times. But if you think the Church depends upon a pope, then you must also think the Church has ceased to exist over 250 times. The pope is simply the human representative of God's Church on earth. The Church's true head is Jesus Christ; and the Church is His Mystical Bride.

alright. one question,
are you a bawdenist? a sirianist?

You're asking if I think David Bawden or Cardinal Siri are pope? No.

good. at least you don't think mommy, daddy, and best buddy are valid papal electors

Mithrandylan · « **Reply #37 on:** September 02, 2013, 05:29:24 PM »

In any event, neither Siri or Bawden ever kissed the Koran, drank ceremonial Pagan potions, praised false religions, celebrated Hanukkah, participated in false worship, or replaced a crucifix on a high altar with a statue of Buddah.

No, those honors go to the conciliar pontiffs.

Mithrandylan · « **Reply #38 on:** September 02, 2013, 05:32:22 PM »

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In all honesty, I believe most sspv and cmri traditionalists are earnest and good willed. I just believe that on occasions, hate for the magisterium of the visible church overshadows their virtues

They hate the conciliar magesterium because it is not Catholic. It teaches that non-Christian religions are means of salvation, that man has a right to choose a false religion, and that Catholics should participate in worship with non-Catholics: all of these ideas and behaviors have been condemned by prior teachings to be mortally sinful.

Fidelity to the conciliar magesterium which is not Catholic is a great way to sign your soul over to the devil.

DominvsSabaoth · « **Reply #39 on:** September 02, 2013, 05:32:48 PM »

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In any event, neither Siri or Bawden ever kissed the Koran, drank ceremonial Pagan potions, praised false religions, celebrated Hanukkah, participated in false worship, or replaced a crucifix on a high altar with a statue of Buddah.

No, those honors go to the conciliar pontiffs.

I don't like any of those things
however I still admire jpii for overcoming communism and nαzιsm
I look up to Francis for his social justice

Nadir · « **Reply #40 on:** September 02, 2013, 05:41:54 PM »

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But I can go inside and say the ef, even make the no look more like the ef. I'll fire the EMs and tell the altar girls to beat it.

Delusions of grandeur. Beware!

DominvsSabaoth · « **Reply #41 on:** September 02, 2013, 05:47:32 PM »

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But I can go inside and say the ef, even make the no look more like the ef. I'll fire the EMs and tell the altar girls to beat it.

Delusions of grandeur. Beware!

Well, I suppose they could be seen that way if you want

Nadir · « **Reply #42 on:** September 02, 2013, 06:08:49 PM »

"The Great Sacrilege" is too much for your tender sensibilties just now. I can understand that.

Maybe you could start out with something more gentle like "The Rhine Flows into the Tiber" or some of the writings of Abp Lefebvre.

But did you come here to learn?

DominvsSabaoth · « **Reply #43 on:** September 03, 2013, 07:24:18 PM »

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"The Great Sacrilege" is too much for your tender sensibilties just now. I can understand that.

Maybe you could start out with something more gentle like "The Rhine Flows into the Tiber" or some of the writings of Abp Lefebvre.

But did you come here to learn?

no doubt, friend, but I have no idea where to acess the works of Lefebvre.

Nadir · « **Reply #44 on:** September 03, 2013, 07:57:12 PM »

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"The Great Sacrilege" is too much for your tender sensibilties just now. I can understand that.

Maybe you could start out with something more gentle like "The Rhine Flows into the Tiber" or some of the writings of Abp Lefebvre.

But did you come here to learn?

no doubt, friend, but I have no idea where to acess the works of Lefebvre.

This would be a good and immediate start: http://www.sspxasia.com/Docuмents/Archbishop-Lefebvre/OpenLetterToConfusedCatholics/

I am sure others here will be able to give you more information about online or paper versions. You must read Abp Lefebvre before you dismiss SSPX or at least what it was once.

God bless you!