[Jaynek]

You aren't being honest whenever you defend FE or SD, Jaynek.

Exactly what are you claiming was dishonest?  Anything that I have ever posted was something I believed to be true.  You might have disagreed with it, but that does not make something dishonest.

What you "believe" to be true are modernist lies. Your approval and support of transsɛҳuąƖs is hideous. Your "HebrewCatholic" heretical sect which you promote is abhorrent.
Do all of us a favor and confine yourself to posting at FE.

I do not approve of transsɛҳuąƖs.  You can not find any posts in which I say otherwise. Nor do I promote the Association of Hebrew Catholics.  I agreed with a point made in one of their articles - that it is important to evangelize Jews rather than to think that they are saved through being Jєωιѕн.  I disagree with other things they say.

You are misrepresenting my views.

[TheKnightVigilant]

You seem to be conveniently avoiding the fact that the Orthodox Church is equally, and likely more, modernist than the Vatican II Church, permitting contraception, allowing divorce and remarriage, collaborating with Communist governments etc.

[Mithrandylan]

You seem to be conveniently avoiding the fact that the Orthodox Church is equally, and likely more, modernist than the Vatican II Church, permitting contraception, allowing divorce and remarriage, collaborating with Communist governments etc.

It's OK because their leaders aren't "infallible."

Alex117 seems to be under the impression that Catholics are obliged to follow heretics when it's quite the opposite situation.  

[TheKnightVigilant]

I saw a website recently featuring an Orthodox Bishop who described himself as a "theosophist" and a "practitioner of Zen Buddhism"

[TheKnightVigilant]

I saw a website recently featuring an Orthodox Bishop who described himself as a "theosophist" and a "practitioner of Zen Buddhism"

Boom! Headshot! You’re really bringing out the big guns now. How can I refute such an argument? Orthodoxy must be false!

How childish.

The point is that numerous high-ranking figures within the Orthodox Church, which you claim to be the true bastion of Christian tradition, openly promote blatant heresy, including in some cases the actual observance of false religions alongside Christianity.

You need to stop pretending that the Orthodox church is any more faithful to tradition than the Vatican II Church.

[TheKnightVigilant]

Going Orthodox was not a decision that I made lightly. This is my eternal soul that is on the line here - I did not sit down and say, "You know what, I really prefer it if all of my priests have beards, so I'm go Orthodox!!!" I personally made my decision after studying the docuмents of Vatican I in relation to papal authority and infallibility (because I was on the edge of going sede), and then reading books on why the Orthodox do not recognize papal authority at all. Eventually, I found myself agreeing with the Orthodox view on the Papacy, rather than the sedevacantist or SSPX view, and after much prayer and research, I decided that Orthodoxy was ultimately the truth.

How do you explain then that if Orthodoxy is the truth and Roman Catholicism a heresy/schism that Catholicism was allowed by God to proselytize 1 billion people in today's world, including all of South and Central America whereas Orthodoxy never really moved out of the countries it was in and a few little satellites nearby.

Why leave it to heretics to do the bulk of the "teaching of all nations?"

Why is the Pope, even today constantly seen on the international news and recognised by 95% of the literate world, whereas the Patriarch of All Russias would hardly be recognized by anyone.

Seems to me that over half the lifetime of the Christian Church the relative poor performance of Orthodoxy hints that it is the heresy and not Catholicism.  It would seem very strange that God would allow the heresy to flourish over THAT long a period of time and have 5 times as many (notional) adherents.

If I went in a time machine to the year 3000 and the Catholic Church still had the new mass, I'd abandon Tradition because I would figure that God must be OK with the new mass having left it alone for over 1000 years.

Is it not interesting that the Catholic Church spread forth throughout the entire world in it's mission to spread the Gospel, while the Orthodox Church made only meagre efforts even to convert the indigenous Siberians within Russia's own borders?

[TheKnightVigilant]

By the way, Alex, I strongly suggest you read "Upon This Rock" by Stephen Ray.

[Mithrandylan]

This thread is two pages shorter than before.  I can only assume Alex's evangelization was deleted.  That's a good call.  Let's keep him and Roland in our prayers.

[ServusSpiritusSancti]

You aren't being honest whenever you defend FE or SD, Jaynek.

Exactly what are you claiming was dishonest?  Anything that I have ever posted was something I believed to be true.  You might have disagreed with it, but that does not make something dishonest.

It is dishonest to support Vox and FE despite all the immorality that goes on there. Yet every time there's a thread here against FishEaters, you take up for it.

[Jaynek]

You aren't being honest whenever you defend FE or SD, Jaynek.

Exactly what are you claiming was dishonest?  Anything that I have ever posted was something I believed to be true.  You might have disagreed with it, but that does not make something dishonest.

It is dishonest to support Vox and FE despite all the immorality that goes on there. Yet every time there's a thread here against FishEaters, you take up for it.

You are just saying the same thing without answering my question.  I am not lying about what I believe.  I am not misleading anyone.  I am not misrepresenting anything.  I am not being dishonest.

[Exfish]

You aren't being honest whenever you defend FE or SD, Jaynek.

Exactly what are you claiming was dishonest?  Anything that I have ever posted was something I believed to be true.  You might have disagreed with it, but that does not make something dishonest.

What you "believe" to be true are modernist lies. Your approval and support of transsɛҳuąƖs is hideous. Your "HebrewCatholic" heretical sect which you promote is abhorrent.
Do all of us a favor and confine yourself to posting at FE.

You can not find any posts in which I say otherwise. Nor do I promote the Association of Hebrew Catholics.  I agreed with a point made in one of their articles - that it is important to evangelize Jews rather than to think that they are saved through being Jєωιѕн.  I disagree with other things they say.

You are misrepresenting my views.

Oh no??? tsk tsk.. shame shame.. More lies.

By Jaynek: February 24, 2013, 12:18:56 AM
"Another group that gets it right is the Association of Hebrew Catholics, a group of Catholics of Jєωιѕн ethnicity.  Here is one of there position papers:
http://hebrewcatholic.org/FaithandTheology/Reflections-Covenant-Mission/catholicteaching.html"


I may not be a linguistics major like yourself, but I and every English speaking person understands what "A Group That gets it right" means.

More lies? Or do you want to come clean and apologize to everyone here and the other forums which have had to put up with your Jєωιѕн heretical sect propaganda and your тαℓмυdic liberalism.

As per your "I do not approve of transsɛҳuąƖs.  You can not find any posts in which I say otherwise" B.S.
I present:

From Jaynek to everybody regarding Impy the tranny:
The point that you seem to be missing is that there is reason to think that this is not a "gentleman".  God did not make Clare a male in the way that He normally makes males.

It is your opinion.  You appear to be denying the existence of transsɛҳuąƖism, something which the Church recognizes.

In many cases, the reality of transsɛҳuąƖism is demonstrably a physiological abnormality.  There is a Vatican instruction that treats it as different from ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity.  Your insistence on equating them is coming from you, not Church teaching.

TranssɛҳuąƖism is have a sense that one is other than the sex that one appears to be.  Often there is a physiological basis for this sense

I have a friend who went from Christopher to Christine (which is how I picked up more information on this than most people know) and she really got into these things after she changed.  I would ask her for make-up advice.

 It is information that is not suitable for the general public.  

The reason this docuмent was issued sub secretum is also the reason that people should not be judging Clare about this.  She consulted with a priest.  Nobody here is her spiritual director and a "trial by forum" is not appropriate.

All of Impy's posts show a practicing Catholic who accepts and obeys Church teaching, including that on ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity.  I have never seen any reason to question her honesty or Catholicism.


Just think how shocking it would have been, if she had not gone through the sweet potato stage.  At least this way we could get used to it gradually.



Leave. Just leave. It's posters like you that start the rot and decay of Catholicism. Got to your hebrewcatholic.org people. Just stay away from real Catholics.

[Graham]

Jayne, you said those things?

[Charlemagne]

Nice job, Exfish. :applause:

[PatrickG]

The Association for Hebrew Catholics. This is abhorrent Judaizing. The idea of keeping the demonic тαℓмυdic festivities sickens me. It's gross heresy. You are, then, a bloody marrano.

As for the perverts, well, you consort with perverts (Christopher...Christine) and defend them. You refer to another pervert ('Impy') by his chosen 'name' and his, God forgive me, chosen 'sex'. Truly abhorrent. No Catholic can possibly 'support' someone chopping himself up with a knife so he can be buggered by another man!

You have no place here.

[wallflower]

She also recommended Chestertonian check out the AHC and provided him with a link to their homepage. This was in general on his introduction to FE thread (which anyone can verify) and not in reference to any particular point.

I don't know anything about them, if they are good or not, but I do know Jayne is sly. But her posting history is so extensive on 3 different forums that no one has the time or interest to go looking for contradictions. You just have to see it as it unfolds.

When you ride fences long enough you get splinters on all sides.

Btw, the way both she and Vox justify backing Impy's sex change is by claiming he was actually a woman born in a male body, so it isn't a sex change, just the correction of a birth defect. Despite the fact that brain scans of post mortem transsɛҳuąƖs showed results between male and female, NOT female; and since they were post mortem, you get into the nature vs nurture argument, among so many other good points there's no need to rehash.

But that's the kind of thought process we're dealing with. They can "honestly" say they don't support transsɛҳuąƖism when they deem someone not to be switching genders, just correcting birth defects. It's devious.