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Title: Metal thread.
Post by: BitDudeX on November 08, 2013, 11:17:15 AM
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uLSUQYzqXZ0[/youtube]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uLSUQYzqXZ0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uLSUQYzqXZ0
)Anyone here listen to black metal? A lot of it seems like it would be right up your alley.
Title: Metal thread.
Post by: Cantarella on November 08, 2013, 11:50:43 AM
As an ex - black Metal fan I say that this "music" genre "Ain’t Got Nothing On Us".

This music is cartoonish and a sad caricature of an ill - perceived Christianity. All forms of darkness worship can’t keep up with the Catholic Church. And yes! we are into the macabre and not a bit scared of it. Christ has conquered Death.  "What a satanic music scene can only snatch at in its limited imagination, the Catholic Church builds churches out of".

" I say to you, if the all-out, Satan-worshipping disciple of Black Metal manages somehow to avoid the terrible mercy of God, he will find himself damned not for his mockeries, his darkness, or his demonic, skeletal art, but for his Pride, just like the white-collared, straightedged, “Christian” next to him".

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/badcatholic/2011/09/death-metal-aint-got-nothing-on-us.html
Title: Metal thread.
Post by: soulguard on November 08, 2013, 12:10:09 PM
I went through a phase of listening to ambient dark techno and also death metal, but it didn't last long. I found its rythms and sound effects to be like a sugar rush where you just want the next sound effect, but Now I just listen to Gregorian chant which has no sound effects, but instead has true atmosphere and gives goosebumps, I want to replace all my library with Gregorian chant now. After a while you get tired of sound effects. And another thing, they are always mathematical, the drums or sound effect beat in the back ground is always in intervals of 4, or 8. That fails because it gets old because you predict it.
Title: Metal thread.
Post by: BitDudeX on November 08, 2013, 12:19:14 PM
Quote from: soulguard
I went through a phase of listening to ambient dark techno and also death metal, but it didn't last long. I found its rythms and sound effects to be like a sugar rush where you just want the next sound effect, but Now I just listen to Gregorian chant which has no sound effects, but instead has true atmosphere and gives goosebumps, I want to replace all my library with Gregorian chant now. After a while you get tired of sound effects. And another thing, they are always mathematical, the drums or sound effect beat in the back ground is always in intervals of 4, or 8. That fails because it gets old because you predict it.


Gregorian chant is fine, but it kind of falls flat on my ears after I listen to it for to long. IMO there is enough Black Metal/Music out there that it prob won't get old.


I wonder if it's possible to have a discussion on this forum about music without bringing up Gregorian chant. lmao

God allowed us to create these genres so why should I not enjoy them?
Title: Metal thread.
Post by: BitDudeX on November 08, 2013, 12:31:57 PM
also some of dat album art
(http://userserve-ak.last.fm/serve/_/88050249/Sump+VII.jpg)
 :applause:
Title: Metal thread.
Post by: soulguard on November 08, 2013, 12:32:44 PM
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I went through a phase of listening to ambient dark techno and also death metal, but it didn't last long. I found its rythms and sound effects to be like a sugar rush where you just want the next sound effect, but Now I just listen to Gregorian chant which has no sound effects, but instead has true atmosphere and gives goosebumps, I want to replace all my library with Gregorian chant now. After a while you get tired of sound effects. And another thing, they are always mathematical, the drums or sound effect beat in the back ground is always in intervals of 4, or 8. That fails because it gets old because you predict it.


Gregorian chant is fine, but it kind of falls flat on my ears after I listen to it for to long. IMO there is enough Black Metal/Music out there that it prob won't get old.


I wonder if it's possible to have a discussion on this forum about music without bringing up Gregorian chant. lmao

God allowed us to create these genres so why should I not enjoy them?


Fine, listen thou to black metal, but mark my words... when the apples on the tree grow sour, and the days become short, and the leaves on the tree change colour, then, and only then, after one hath tasted the poison fruit, thou wilt realise the fruitlessness of thy ventures, and thou wilt feel within thyself an unholy void, and a longing for meaning, and thou wilt no longer look to be cool, but instead to be psycho, and thou spurning the world will no longer refer to thyself as a "dude" but to a "man" who takes a stand for tradition, and who is "not cool".  Then people will say to thee when they hear pious words from thy lips, "dude not cool", and you will be uncool among men, but you will be cool with God, and thou shalt become like unto myself, who is a square, and who is cool because he is not cool.
Title: Metal thread.
Post by: BitDudeX on November 08, 2013, 12:35:27 PM
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Quote from: soulguard
I went through a phase of listening to ambient dark techno and also death metal, but it didn't last long. I found its rythms and sound effects to be like a sugar rush where you just want the next sound effect, but Now I just listen to Gregorian chant which has no sound effects, but instead has true atmosphere and gives goosebumps, I want to replace all my library with Gregorian chant now. After a while you get tired of sound effects. And another thing, they are always mathematical, the drums or sound effect beat in the back ground is always in intervals of 4, or 8. That fails because it gets old because you predict it.


Gregorian chant is fine, but it kind of falls flat on my ears after I listen to it for to long. IMO there is enough Black Metal/Music out there that it prob won't get old.


I wonder if it's possible to have a discussion on this forum about music without bringing up Gregorian chant. lmao

God allowed us to create these genres so why should I not enjoy them?


Fine, listen thou to black metal, but mark my words... when the apples on the tree grow sour, and the days become short, and the leaves on the tree change colour, then, and only then, after one hath tasted the poison fruit, thou wilt realise the fruitlessness of thy ventures, and thou wilt feel within thyself an unholy void, and a longing for meaning, and thou wilt no longer look to be cool, but instead to be psycho, and thou spurning the world will no longer refer to thyself as a "dude" but to a "man" who takes a stand for tradition, and who is "not cool".  Then people will say to thee when they hear pious words from thy lips, "dude not cool", and you will be uncool among men, but you will be cool with God, and thou shalt become like unto myself, who is a square, and who is cool because he is not cool.


ahaha oh wow
this literally has nothing to do with me wanting to be "cool"
i just enjoy the music
is it possible for SSPXers or Trad's to actually enjoy music?
Title: Metal thread.
Post by: soulguard on November 08, 2013, 12:37:59 PM
Quote from: BitDudeX
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I went through a phase of listening to ambient dark techno and also death metal, but it didn't last long. I found its rythms and sound effects to be like a sugar rush where you just want the next sound effect, but Now I just listen to Gregorian chant which has no sound effects, but instead has true atmosphere and gives goosebumps, I want to replace all my library with Gregorian chant now. After a while you get tired of sound effects. And another thing, they are always mathematical, the drums or sound effect beat in the back ground is always in intervals of 4, or 8. That fails because it gets old because you predict it.


Gregorian chant is fine, but it kind of falls flat on my ears after I listen to it for to long. IMO there is enough Black Metal/Music out there that it prob won't get old.


I wonder if it's possible to have a discussion on this forum about music without bringing up Gregorian chant. lmao

God allowed us to create these genres so why should I not enjoy them?


Fine, listen thou to black metal, but mark my words... when the apples on the tree grow sour, and the days become short, and the leaves on the tree change colour, then, and only then, after one hath tasted the poison fruit, thou wilt realise the fruitlessness of thy ventures, and thou wilt feel within thyself an unholy void, and a longing for meaning, and thou wilt no longer look to be cool, but instead to be psycho, and thou spurning the world will no longer refer to thyself as a "dude" but to a "man" who takes a stand for tradition, and who is "not cool".  Then people will say to thee when they hear pious words from thy lips, "dude not cool", and you will be uncool among men, but you will be cool with God, and thou shalt become like unto myself, who is a square, and who is cool because he is not cool.


ahaha oh wow
this literally has nothing to do with me wanting to be "cool"
i just enjoy the music
is it possible for SSPXers or Trad's to actually enjoy music?


I sometimes listen to all kinds, but it gets old and all I want now is chant. the rest gets old but chant has been round for 1000's of years, and it never gets old. so much for my opinion anyway.
Title: Metal thread.
Post by: Cantarella on November 08, 2013, 12:49:58 PM
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I went through a phase of listening to ambient dark techno and also death metal, but it didn't last long. I found its rythms and sound effects to be like a sugar rush where you just want the next sound effect, but Now I just listen to Gregorian chant which has no sound effects, but instead has true atmosphere and gives goosebumps, I want to replace all my library with Gregorian chant now. After a while you get tired of sound effects. And another thing, they are always mathematical, the drums or sound effect beat in the back ground is always in intervals of 4, or 8. That fails because it gets old because you predict it.


Gregorian chant is fine, but it kind of falls flat on my ears after I listen to it for to long. IMO there is enough Black Metal/Music out there that it prob won't get old.


I wonder if it's possible to have a discussion on this forum about music without bringing up Gregorian chant. lmao

God allowed us to create these genres so why should I not enjoy them?


Fine, listen thou to black metal, but mark my words... when the apples on the tree grow sour, and the days become short, and the leaves on the tree change colour, then, and only then, after one hath tasted the poison fruit, thou wilt realise the fruitlessness of thy ventures, and thou wilt feel within thyself an unholy void, and a longing for meaning, and thou wilt no longer look to be cool, but instead to be psycho, and thou spurning the world will no longer refer to thyself as a "dude" but to a "man" who takes a stand for tradition, and who is "not cool".  Then people will say to thee when they hear pious words from thy lips, "dude not cool", and you will be uncool among men, but you will be cool with God, and thou shalt become like unto myself, who is a square, and who is cool because he is not cool.


ahaha oh wow
this literally has nothing to do with me wanting to be "cool"
i just enjoy the music
is it possible for SSPXers or Trad's to actually enjoy music?


The problem is not the music much, but the lyrics. Everything that comes through your senses matter.
Title: Metal thread.
Post by: BitDudeX on November 08, 2013, 01:10:27 PM
Quote from: Cantarella
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Quote from: soulguard
I went through a phase of listening to ambient dark techno and also death metal, but it didn't last long. I found its rythms and sound effects to be like a sugar rush where you just want the next sound effect, but Now I just listen to Gregorian chant which has no sound effects, but instead has true atmosphere and gives goosebumps, I want to replace all my library with Gregorian chant now. After a while you get tired of sound effects. And another thing, they are always mathematical, the drums or sound effect beat in the back ground is always in intervals of 4, or 8. That fails because it gets old because you predict it.


Gregorian chant is fine, but it kind of falls flat on my ears after I listen to it for to long. IMO there is enough Black Metal/Music out there that it prob won't get old.


I wonder if it's possible to have a discussion on this forum about music without bringing up Gregorian chant. lmao

God allowed us to create these genres so why should I not enjoy them?


Fine, listen thou to black metal, but mark my words... when the apples on the tree grow sour, and the days become short, and the leaves on the tree change colour, then, and only then, after one hath tasted the poison fruit, thou wilt realise the fruitlessness of thy ventures, and thou wilt feel within thyself an unholy void, and a longing for meaning, and thou wilt no longer look to be cool, but instead to be psycho, and thou spurning the world will no longer refer to thyself as a "dude" but to a "man" who takes a stand for tradition, and who is "not cool".  Then people will say to thee when they hear pious words from thy lips, "dude not cool", and you will be uncool among men, but you will be cool with God, and thou shalt become like unto myself, who is a square, and who is cool because he is not cool.


ahaha oh wow
this literally has nothing to do with me wanting to be "cool"
i just enjoy the music
is it possible for SSPXers or Trad's to actually enjoy music?


The problem is not the music much, but the lyrics. Everything that comes through your senses matter.


"Anxious mourning
Anxious mourning, unmeasurable rage
Plaintive desperation, filled with (being imprisoned?)
Apathy with no end and sad life
Whole of crying, anxiousness and torments
Aching heart, which lives in obscurity
Tenebrous corpse on the point of leaving
I have, with no worry, continuously
And if I can't cure myself, nor die." - Peste Noire - Dueil Angoisseus

How horrible.
/sarcastic
Title: Metal thread.
Post by: soulguard on November 08, 2013, 01:13:39 PM
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Quote from: Cantarella
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Quote from: soulguard
I went through a phase of listening to ambient dark techno and also death metal, but it didn't last long. I found its rythms and sound effects to be like a sugar rush where you just want the next sound effect, but Now I just listen to Gregorian chant which has no sound effects, but instead has true atmosphere and gives goosebumps, I want to replace all my library with Gregorian chant now. After a while you get tired of sound effects. And another thing, they are always mathematical, the drums or sound effect beat in the back ground is always in intervals of 4, or 8. That fails because it gets old because you predict it.


Gregorian chant is fine, but it kind of falls flat on my ears after I listen to it for to long. IMO there is enough Black Metal/Music out there that it prob won't get old.


I wonder if it's possible to have a discussion on this forum about music without bringing up Gregorian chant. lmao

God allowed us to create these genres so why should I not enjoy them?


Fine, listen thou to black metal, but mark my words... when the apples on the tree grow sour, and the days become short, and the leaves on the tree change colour, then, and only then, after one hath tasted the poison fruit, thou wilt realise the fruitlessness of thy ventures, and thou wilt feel within thyself an unholy void, and a longing for meaning, and thou wilt no longer look to be cool, but instead to be psycho, and thou spurning the world will no longer refer to thyself as a "dude" but to a "man" who takes a stand for tradition, and who is "not cool".  Then people will say to thee when they hear pious words from thy lips, "dude not cool", and you will be uncool among men, but you will be cool with God, and thou shalt become like unto myself, who is a square, and who is cool because he is not cool.


ahaha oh wow
this literally has nothing to do with me wanting to be "cool"
i just enjoy the music
is it possible for SSPXers or Trad's to actually enjoy music?


The problem is not the music much, but the lyrics. Everything that comes through your senses matter.


"Anxious mourning
Anxious mourning, unmeasurable rage
Plaintive desperation, filled with (being imprisoned?)
Apathy with no end and sad life
Whole of crying, anxiousness and torments
Aching heart, which lives in obscurity
Tenebrous corpse on the point of leaving
I have, with no worry, continuously
And if I can't cure myself, nor die." - Peste Noire - Dueil Angoisseus

How horrible.
/sarcastic


yeah well if you want to be cool you should be a TRAD.
I am so uncool that I have an aura of coolness.
Title: Metal thread.
Post by: BitDudeX on November 08, 2013, 01:14:47 PM
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Quote from: Cantarella
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I went through a phase of listening to ambient dark techno and also death metal, but it didn't last long. I found its rythms and sound effects to be like a sugar rush where you just want the next sound effect, but Now I just listen to Gregorian chant which has no sound effects, but instead has true atmosphere and gives goosebumps, I want to replace all my library with Gregorian chant now. After a while you get tired of sound effects. And another thing, they are always mathematical, the drums or sound effect beat in the back ground is always in intervals of 4, or 8. That fails because it gets old because you predict it.


Gregorian chant is fine, but it kind of falls flat on my ears after I listen to it for to long. IMO there is enough Black Metal/Music out there that it prob won't get old.


I wonder if it's possible to have a discussion on this forum about music without bringing up Gregorian chant. lmao

God allowed us to create these genres so why should I not enjoy them?


Fine, listen thou to black metal, but mark my words... when the apples on the tree grow sour, and the days become short, and the leaves on the tree change colour, then, and only then, after one hath tasted the poison fruit, thou wilt realise the fruitlessness of thy ventures, and thou wilt feel within thyself an unholy void, and a longing for meaning, and thou wilt no longer look to be cool, but instead to be psycho, and thou spurning the world will no longer refer to thyself as a "dude" but to a "man" who takes a stand for tradition, and who is "not cool".  Then people will say to thee when they hear pious words from thy lips, "dude not cool", and you will be uncool among men, but you will be cool with God, and thou shalt become like unto myself, who is a square, and who is cool because he is not cool.


ahaha oh wow
this literally has nothing to do with me wanting to be "cool"
i just enjoy the music
is it possible for SSPXers or Trad's to actually enjoy music?


The problem is not the music much, but the lyrics. Everything that comes through your senses matter.


"Anxious mourning
Anxious mourning, unmeasurable rage
Plaintive desperation, filled with (being imprisoned?)
Apathy with no end and sad life
Whole of crying, anxiousness and torments
Aching heart, which lives in obscurity
Tenebrous corpse on the point of leaving
I have, with no worry, continuously
And if I can't cure myself, nor die." - Peste Noire - Dueil Angoisseus

How horrible.
/sarcastic


yeah well if you want to be cool you should be a TRAD.
I am so uncool that I have an aura of coolness.

what? that literally has nothing to do with anything
Title: Metal thread.
Post by: Stubborn on November 08, 2013, 02:07:38 PM
Quote from: BitDudeX
Quote from: soulguard
I went through a phase of listening to ambient dark techno and also death metal, but it didn't last long. I found its rythms and sound effects to be like a sugar rush where you just want the next sound effect, but Now I just listen to Gregorian chant which has no sound effects, but instead has true atmosphere and gives goosebumps, I want to replace all my library with Gregorian chant now. After a while you get tired of sound effects. And another thing, they are always mathematical, the drums or sound effect beat in the back ground is always in intervals of 4, or 8. That fails because it gets old because you predict it.


Gregorian chant is fine, but it kind of falls flat on my ears after I listen to it for to long. IMO there is enough Black Metal/Music out there that it prob won't get old.


I wonder if it's possible to have a discussion on this forum about music without bringing up Gregorian chant. lmao

God allowed us to create these genres so why should I not enjoy them?


In a nutshell, the problem with enjoying these genres is that this type of music  not only tends to be at least somewhat addictive, it is designed to steer you away from your interior life while in the process it leads you toward sin.

Title: Metal thread.
Post by: BitDudeX on November 08, 2013, 02:12:20 PM
Quote from: Stubborn
Quote from: BitDudeX
Quote from: soulguard
I went through a phase of listening to ambient dark techno and also death metal, but it didn't last long. I found its rythms and sound effects to be like a sugar rush where you just want the next sound effect, but Now I just listen to Gregorian chant which has no sound effects, but instead has true atmosphere and gives goosebumps, I want to replace all my library with Gregorian chant now. After a while you get tired of sound effects. And another thing, they are always mathematical, the drums or sound effect beat in the back ground is always in intervals of 4, or 8. That fails because it gets old because you predict it.


Gregorian chant is fine, but it kind of falls flat on my ears after I listen to it for to long. IMO there is enough Black Metal/Music out there that it prob won't get old.


I wonder if it's possible to have a discussion on this forum about music without bringing up Gregorian chant. lmao

God allowed us to create these genres so why should I not enjoy them?


In a nutshell, the problem with enjoying these genres is that this type of music  not only tends to be at least somewhat addictive, it is designed to steer you away from your interior life while in the process it leads you toward sin.



Anything can become addictive though.
Everything in moderation.  
Title: Metal thread.
Post by: Stubborn on November 08, 2013, 04:10:46 PM
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Anything can become addictive though.
Everything in moderation.  


Usually true, but when it comes to popular music, listening to it even in moderation is usually enough to completely kill your interior life. This is not by chance, this is by design.

The problem is that pop/rock/metal/etc. music affects some people worse than others - but it does affect everyone. It certainly affects the young folks and teens most of all. More often than not, the music itself is every bit as bad as the lyrics.    

If it was like anything else, you'd think that after hearing the same songs a zillion times that you'd be so sick and tired of them that you'd never want to hear them ever again - but music doesn't really work that way.

Rather, the more you hear a song that you really like, the more you want to hear it - if that song has impure or implied impure lyrics or drug use or anti-parents/anti-authority or etc. lyrics, it gets pounded into your brain and helps to shape the young person's thinking and attitude after hearing the same words matched up with the same beat over and over and over again - usually  for years on end -  yet for some, for the most vulnerable (teens they only need to hear it a few times (aka "in moderation") as they hum, sing or think about that song a millions times more often than they actually hear it.

Either way, it is something that is far better for the interior life, the life of your immortal soul, to be avoided completely.



     
Title: Metal thread.
Post by: BitDudeX on November 08, 2013, 08:23:34 PM
Quote from: Stubborn
Quote from: BitDudeX

Anything can become addictive though.
Everything in moderation.  


Usually true, but when it comes to popular music, listening to it even in moderation is usually enough to completely kill your interior life. This is not by chance, this is by design.

The problem is that pop/rock/metal/etc. music affects some people worse than others - but it does affect everyone. It certainly affects the young folks and teens most of all. More often than not, the music itself is every bit as bad as the lyrics.    

If it was like anything else, you'd think that after hearing the same songs a zillion times that you'd be so sick and tired of them that you'd never want to hear them ever again - but music doesn't really work that way.

Rather, the more you hear a song that you really like, the more you want to hear it - if that song has impure or implied impure lyrics or drug use or anti-parents/anti-authority or etc. lyrics, it gets pounded into your brain and helps to shape the young person's thinking and attitude after hearing the same words matched up with the same beat over and over and over again - usually  for years on end -  yet for some, for the most vulnerable (teens they only need to hear it a few times (aka "in moderation") as they hum, sing or think about that song a millions times more often than they actually hear it.

Either way, it is something that is far better for the interior life, the life of your immortal soul, to be avoided completely.



     


oh wow
only on cathinfo

What music do you suggest I listen to then? I don't just listen to metal. I sometimes listen to Math Rock, Modern(OH NO) Classical, Folk, Midwestern Emo, twinkly emo, jazz, etc.

Title: Metal thread.
Post by: Stubborn on November 09, 2013, 04:46:05 AM
Quote from: BitDudeX

oh wow
only on cathinfo

What music do you suggest I listen to then? I don't just listen to metal. I sometimes listen to Math Rock, Modern(OH NO) Classical, Folk, Midwestern Emo, twinkly emo, jazz, etc.




I suggest you listen to whatever music does not contain anti-Catholic lyrics and innuendos.

Title: Metal thread.
Post by: Frances on November 09, 2013, 12:35:44 PM
Advice to listeners of metal, rock, rap, Goth, all kinds of devil-inspired "music." Stop it!  Go cold-turkey for 21 days and see if your prayer life, mood, and mental and physical health isn't improved!  It worked wonders for me.  After an Ignatian retreat (to which Fr. Joe Pfeiffer dragged me me under protest!) I gathered all my CDs, tapes, records (Yes, I'm old!) and sorted the wheat from the chaff.  Most was chaff.  I went without for 21 days, after which time I consigned the chaff to the campfire.  No, I didn't listen to Metallica or anything in that category, but came to realise that I was intellectually lax from listening to the popular tunes of my younger days, the late 60s through early 80s.  What do I still listen to?  Irish music, classical, folk music, marching bands, Catholic music, some bluegrass, Palestrina, chant, both Gregorian and eastern rite, music that has stood the test of time.  Music has a way of 'sticking' in the mind and heart.  Think!  I didn't want to be found on my deathbed with "Get Down Tonight" going through my mind!
Title: Metal thread.
Post by: TheKnightVigilant on November 09, 2013, 02:01:32 PM
Are you aware that black metal is utterly anti-Christian and Satanic to the core? The genre was pioneered by men who literally burnt down churches.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_metal#Church_burnings

Title: Metal thread.
Post by: Cuthbert on November 09, 2013, 02:48:09 PM
Saying that it is permissible to listen to these types of music because God allowed men to develop them is illogical. God permitted the Aztecs to hold bloodthirsty diabolical rites of human sacrifice, it doesn't follow that He therefore approved of this. This is rather like the idea some people have that anything natural must be good, not so strychnine is perfectly natural, yet one wouldn't want to ingest it. The music under discussion is intrinsically disordered. It exalts the bestial over the spiritual nature of man. The real origin of "rock" is to be found in voodoo & other occultic sects. The Beatles had much of their music written by the Jew Adorno who got it from ancient music used in the rites of Bacchus. If you don't know what the rites of Bacchus were, look them up & see if the reaction of modern young people to rock is any different from the ancients' festivals of debauchery.
Title: Metal thread.
Post by: BitDudeX on November 09, 2013, 10:18:41 PM
Quote from: TheKnightVigilant
Are you aware that black metal is utterly anti-Christian and Satanic to the core? The genre was pioneered by men who literally burnt down churches.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_metal#Church_burnings



That has no effect on the genre.

It's like saying jazz music is horrible because Miles Davis took a speedball.

Also, there are many bands in the genre that are not anti-christian at all.
Title: Metal thread.
Post by: BitDudeX on November 09, 2013, 10:19:42 PM
Quote from: Cuthbert
Saying that it is permissible to listen to these types of music because God allowed men to develop them is illogical. God permitted the Aztecs to hold bloodthirsty diabolical rites of human sacrifice, it doesn't follow that He therefore approved of this. This is rather like the idea some people have that anything natural must be good, not so strychnine is perfectly natural, yet one wouldn't want to ingest it. The music under discussion is intrinsically disordered. It exalts the bestial over the spiritual nature of man. The real origin of "rock" is to be found in voodoo & other occultic sects. The Beatles had much of their music written by the Jew Adorno who got it from ancient music used in the rites of Bacchus. If you don't know what the rites of Bacchus were, look them up & see if the reaction of modern young people to rock is any different from the ancients' festivals of debauchery.


Literally do not care in the slightest.

> the Jew Adorno

wow in to the trash it goes wow its like im really on 4chan.org/pol/
Title: Metal thread.
Post by: BitDudeX on November 09, 2013, 10:21:01 PM
Quote from: Frances
Advice to listeners of metal, rock, rap, Goth, all kinds of devil-inspired "music." Stop it!  Go cold-turkey for 21 days and see if your prayer life, mood, and mental and physical health isn't improved!  It worked wonders for me.  After an Ignatian retreat (to which Fr. Joe Pfeiffer dragged me me under protest!) I gathered all my CDs, tapes, records (Yes, I'm old!) and sorted the wheat from the chaff.  Most was chaff.  I went without for 21 days, after which time I consigned the chaff to the campfire.  No, I didn't listen to Metallica or anything in that category, but came to realise that I was intellectually lax from listening to the popular tunes of my younger days, the late 60s through early 80s.  What do I still listen to?  Irish music, classical, folk music, marching bands, Catholic music, some bluegrass, Palestrina, chant, both Gregorian and eastern rite, music that has stood the test of time.  Music has a way of 'sticking' in the mind and heart.  Think!  I didn't want to be found on my deathbed with "Get Down Tonight" going through my mind!


>Irish music, classical, folk music, marching bands, Catholic music, some bluegrass, Palestrina, chant, both Gregorian and eastern rite, music that has stood the test of time.  

Enjoy ur limited amount of music lmao.
I feel bad for UltraTrads who can't even enjoy modern music.
Title: Metal thread.
Post by: Cuthbert on November 10, 2013, 01:40:19 AM
Well I can't tell if you're merely a troll or you are a typical modern young punk who glories in his stupidity. You don't want to learn anything, don't want to know anything, prefer not to make use of the reason that God gave you at all. You'd much rather be like a beast of the field concerned only with that which gratifies your senses. If you can't eat it drink it smoke it, you have no use for it. I often think that if you imbeciles could find one among you who couldn't tell left from right up from down, & couldn't speak more than five words of any language you'd proclaim him your king. I pity you, what a terrible waste of a human being, I especially pity your family who probably had hoped that you would not finish up among the slack-jawed drooling idiots. God have mercy on your soul "dude".
Title: Metal thread.
Post by: Cantarella on November 10, 2013, 02:58:45 AM
Quote from: Cuthbert
Well I can't tell if you're merely a troll or you are a typical modern young punk who glories in his stupidity.


I guess he is just a confused and misinformed boy.
Title: Metal thread.
Post by: TheKnightVigilant on November 10, 2013, 03:20:47 AM
Quote from: Cantarella
Quote from: Cuthbert
Well I can't tell if you're merely a troll or you are a typical modern young punk who glories in his stupidity.


I guess he is just a confused and misinformed boy.


Who apparently admires Arthur Schopenhauer.
Title: Metal thread.
Post by: BitDudeX on November 10, 2013, 08:50:47 AM
Quote from: Cuthbert
Well I can't tell if you're merely a troll or you are a typical modern young punk who glories in his stupidity. You don't want to learn anything, don't want to know anything, prefer not to make use of the reason that God gave you at all. You'd much rather be like a beast of the field concerned only with that which gratifies your senses. If you can't eat it drink it smoke it, you have no use for it. I often think that if you imbeciles could find one among you who couldn't tell left from right up from down, & couldn't speak more than five words of any language you'd proclaim him your king. I pity you, what a terrible waste of a human being, I especially pity your family who probably had hoped that you would not finish up among the slack-jawed drooling idiots. God have mercy on your soul "dude".

lol cute

>what a terrible waste of a human being
I literally do not care.

Also what's wrong with being a punk? I don't smoke/drink either btw.  :cool:
Title: Metal thread.
Post by: BitDudeX on November 10, 2013, 08:54:09 AM
Quote from: TheKnightVigilant
Quote from: Cantarella
Quote from: Cuthbert
Well I can't tell if you're merely a troll or you are a typical modern young punk who glories in his stupidity.


I guess he is just a confused and misinformed boy.


Who apparently admires Arthur Schopenhauer.


how horrifying

why dont you :heretic:
:3333
 
Title: Metal thread.
Post by: TheKnightVigilant on November 10, 2013, 09:07:01 AM
Looks like "bitdude" is desperate for attention.
Title: Metal thread.
Post by: BitDudeX on November 10, 2013, 09:09:15 AM
Quote from: TheKnightVigilant
Looks like "bitdude" is desperate for attention.


 :applause:

I literally want to just have a thread where I can discuss music without being called a terrible waste of a human being.
Title: Metal thread.
Post by: TheKnightVigilant on November 10, 2013, 09:18:02 AM
Having awful, juvenile taste in music doesn't make you a "waste of a human being".
Title: Metal thread.
Post by: BitDudeX on November 10, 2013, 09:26:32 AM
Quote from: TheKnightVigilant
Having awful, juvenile taste in music doesn't make you a "waste of a human being".


>juvenile

lmao
nice ageism there bro
also how is liking punk juvenile? I listen to other genres to.

I like steve riech and john cage. (Not classical enough for you?)
Title: Metal thread.
Post by: soulguard on November 10, 2013, 10:49:34 AM
Quote from: BitDudeX
Quote from: TheKnightVigilant
Having awful, juvenile taste in music doesn't make you a "waste of a human being".


>juvenile

lmao
nice ageism there bro
also how is liking punk juvenile? I listen to other genres to.

I like steve riech and john cage. (Not classical enough for you?)


Let me see if I can get my accent right:

"Y0 hay wassup bid dude mah homie you down wit da classical tunes u made in ur garawge aw year got to love tha death metal spin up another chant wickechaw soulguard X in the mix from Iyre land got to go to a LATIN mass getting tha grace in mah sowl coz Obama got me a phone."

lol funny amewicans.
Title: Metal thread.
Post by: BitDudeX on November 10, 2013, 02:20:13 PM
Quote from: soulguard
Quote from: BitDudeX
Quote from: TheKnightVigilant
Having awful, juvenile taste in music doesn't make you a "waste of a human being".


>juvenile

lmao
nice ageism there bro
also how is liking punk juvenile? I listen to other genres to.

I like steve riech and john cage. (Not classical enough for you?)


Let me see if I can get my accent right:

"Y0 hay wassup bid dude mah homie you down wit da classical tunes u made in ur garawge aw year got to love tha death metal spin up another chant wickechaw soulguard X in the mix from Iyre land got to go to a LATIN mass getting tha grace in mah sowl coz Obama got me a phone."

lol funny amewicans.


what the actual f***
Title: Metal thread.
Post by: soulguard on November 10, 2013, 02:54:28 PM
The forum where people may act like teenagers is full of all sorts of goofiness, but holy mother church calls us back to her with the power of reason.
 :read-paper:
Title: Metal thread.
Post by: TheKnightVigilant on November 11, 2013, 04:27:06 AM
Quote from: BitDudeX
Quote from: TheKnightVigilant
Having awful, juvenile taste in music doesn't make you a "waste of a human being".


>juvenile

lmao
nice ageism there bro
also how is liking punk juvenile? I listen to other genres to.

I like steve riech and john cage. (Not classical enough for you?)


I am 21 years old. No "ageism" here.

Steve Reich and John Cage are anarchist-existentialist-relativist agents. One is Jєωιѕн the other a sodomite. Both are totally anti-Christ. If this is what you spend your time engrossed in it isn't any wonder that you've come to despise Catholicism. You've been consumed by the ideology of it's enemies.
Title: Metal thread.
Post by: BitDudeX on November 11, 2013, 08:57:35 AM
Quote from: TheKnightVigilant
Quote from: BitDudeX
Quote from: TheKnightVigilant
Having awful, juvenile taste in music doesn't make you a "waste of a human being".


>juvenile

lmao
nice ageism there bro
also how is liking punk juvenile? I listen to other genres to.

I like steve riech and john cage. (Not classical enough for you?)


I am 21 years old. No "ageism" here.

Steve Reich and John Cage are anarchist-existentialist-relativist agents. One is Jєωιѕн the other a sodomite. Both are totally anti-Christ. If this is what you spend your time engrossed in it isn't any wonder that you've come to despise Catholicism. You've been consumed by the ideology of it's enemies.


I do not despise Catholicism.

What's wrong with being Jєωιѕн?

>anarchist
How so?
>existentialist
How so?
>relativist
How so?

What is wrong with minimalism in music?