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Traditional Catholic Faith => Funny Stuff for Catholics => Topic started by: roscoe on April 28, 2009, 01:30:28 AM
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You must want to cure your boredom by creating a stir.
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So, anyone can become one, and anyone who is one at present can repent and change.
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I've never heard that term applied to that definition.
In fact, I know the real etymology of the word.
You can tell it was just slang for a black person -- In Spanish, black is "negro". In Latin, it's "niger".
I'm not sure when it became a derogatory term.
What's interesting is that even today, the term has a second meaning -- "fellow of my ethnicity", "brother", etc. which can only be used by fellows of that race.
Matthew
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If this was posted two yrs ago there would have been screams for me to be banned. Actually Alex is correct-- after my second glass of wine last night I felt a little frisky.
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I think the name Nero is a derivation of negro as in Italian the g is often silent.
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I've never heard that term applied to that definition.
In fact, I know the real etymology of the word.
You can tell it was just slang for a black person -- In Spanish, black is "negro". In Latin, it's "niger".
I'm not sure when it became a derogatory term.
What's interesting is that even today, the term has a second meaning -- "fellow of my ethnicity", "brother", etc. which can only be used by fellows of that race.
Matthew
This is always what I thought. Pronounced, "Nee 'gher." Latin for the color black.
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Am I thick or something, but did something happen to the original posting?
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The orig posting was a reference to someone with a dark mind-- someone opposed to the light of truth.
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Why my orig post had to be removed is somewhat puzzling as there was no intent to be racial. Now someone could look at the post and presume that it WAS racial.
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Oh!
I just thought it was some subtle joke. Way above my head.
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Definitions change all the time.
I recently learned that "liberal" actually means "free from physical labor" way back-when. There was the "liberal" man that could work with his head (e.g scholar, poet) and the ones who had no education in which to escape the slavery of manual labor. So, there was the "liberal" class and the "working" class. Today, it has a bunch of weird meanings, like "liberal democrat" or "liberetarian."
The "N" word is no different. It's been turned into an insult (idk if had any other meaning, but w/e). No one in their right minds would call themselves "gαy," to say that they were happy nowadays. I guess that's just how it works. Languages chance all the time.
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In my Latin text book, it means black.
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Neri = Negri--- Nero = Negro.
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If one looks up the literal meaning of nice it is derived from the Latin nicere-- to not want to know something.
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Doesn't the "N" word have two g's, not one?
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I think your right. My Latin textbook has:
Niger, Nigra, Nigrum.
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I can't believe that word is allowed in the subject heading of a thread in this forum.
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This is the most offensive word in the English language:
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/nigger
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Papist is high up there for me as it is meant as a snear...
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This is the most offensive word in the English language:
One which is used by blacks ALL THE TIME. As no one takes the time to address me as a European-American or Irish-American, I shall not bother with the PC b.s. about African-Americans.
This is all PC b.s., IMO. I can say "I love you" in such a way that you know I really mean I detest you.
I am a bit surprised, but happy, a PC outfit like Igantius Press still prints Chesterton's works wherein he uses the term.
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Definitions change all the time.
I recently learned that "liberal" actually means "free from physical labor" way back-when. There was the "liberal" man that could work with his head (e.g scholar, poet) and the ones who had no education in which to escape the slavery of manual labor. So, there was the "liberal" class and the "working" class. Today, it has a bunch of weird meanings, like "liberal democrat" or "liberetarian."
The "N" word is no different. It's been turned into an insult (idk if had any other meaning, but w/e). No one in their right minds would call themselves "gαy," to say that they were happy nowadays. I guess that's just how it works. Languages chance all the time.
They also change cross-culturaly. Speaking of 'gαy' the word fαɢɢօt has different meanings to it:
It could mean a bundle of sticks or a British word for meatball.
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Black people uses the N word among themselves all the
time. I very seldom hear White people use that word.
It is mostly African American, or Black.
I would never spell that word out in this blog.
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I would like to be known hence forth as a European American
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The original intent of this topic was to describe some one with a dark mind-- someone who hates truth.
The intent was also as an excercise in the right of free speech and interpretation.
My orig post explaining this was deleted by Mod as can be seen above. Clare understood what I was getting at--- niggers come in all colors.
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Actually, Roscoe, I deleted it as a favor to you.
Actually Alex is correct-- after my second glass of wine last night I felt a little frisky.
I'm not against controversy on here (as you well know), but if something provocative is posted as a result of vino, then I'm a bit more open to correcting it.
Matthew
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Could explain Raoul's other posting activities......maybe he should mix in some pot w/Roscoe to level out....or skip both if they are problems...... :jumping2:
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MO is that the Jansenist heretics in this forum could all benefit from a few hits of Mary Jane-- especially when listening to music.
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Why is it insulting to speak about it?
If someone calls me persian it is not ansult.
If someone calls Vladimir a viet it is not an insult.
So, nigger must not be bad too. Slavery is a matter of past, sth that happened to other races too.
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No one is shocked when Whites are called Honkys, and
red necks. You hear that slang word and the n word
all the time if you are conditioned to listen to
rap music.
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If God created them black, then they are black.
It is not wrong to call the sky blue, the grass green and the roses red, yet it is wrong to call africans black!?
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Again-- the point of this topic is to describe someone with a dark mnd as a nigger. This was not meant to be racial until my orig post was deleted leaving that impression.
NIGGERS COME IN ALL COLORS
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That's one way to look at it --
You can either look at it as a slang term for a "black person", which became derogatory with the passage of time,
Or you can re-cast the word to mean "gangster", "someone with a dark mind", etc. -- after all, most people don't have an urge to call Alan Keyes a "nigger". He is rational, educated, an upstanding citizen, etc.
I know there are blacks in the (traditional) Catholic priesthood (and currently one black seminarian in the SSPX seminary, if I'm not mistaken), and those are certainly not deserving of ANY derogatory term, even if the term was a technical description at one time.
I've learned not to use the term, just like swear words, but I think if I were forced to use the term, I would only consider using it with gangsters, hoodlums, criminals, etc. After all, that is the group that uses the term to refer to themselves!
Matthew
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I know there are blacks in the (traditional) Catholic priesthood (and currently one black seminarian in the SSPX seminary, if I'm not mistaken), ....
Not to mention that Archbishop Lefebvre must have ordained a fair few in his time.
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MO is that the Jansenist heretics in this forum could all benefit from a few hits of Mary Jane-- especially when listening to music.
again with the Jansenist labelling...speaking of slur words......
druggie! (how is that feeling, to be slurred?)
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I do not partake in Pharmakia
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I do not partake in Pharmakia
so then, when you slur the rest of us as "Jansensits", I can call you a..what...crypto Christian Scientist then??
By the way, THC is a drug, it alters mood..drugs are either natural, manufactured or a combo....
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Alcohol and Cocaine alter one's mood as well. Catholics are allowed to consume a certain amount of the former and a Pope has been known to have a glass of wine derived from the latter. So your Jansenist point is what then?
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Alcohol and Cocaine alter one's mood as well. Catholics are allowed to consume a certain amount of the former and a Pope has been known to have a glass of wine derived from the latter. So your Jansenist point is what then?
you know, I am really getting tired of your labels, pothead... :fryingpan: :really-mad2:
aw, waht the heck...hide...
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The literal words of the Roman Catholic Bible say that all green herbs are blessed by God.
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I am sorry to have to point this out but another example of the obstinacy of Belloc is his refusal to under stand that Savanarola was a heretic by the decision of INQ. The defrocked monk admitted this himself as well. :heretic:
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Well, God created and blessed all animals. Does it mean that we are jansenists if we hate/kill/avoid cockroachs?
He also created poisons,germs and viruses. Do we have to love them?
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He also created poisons,germs and viruses. Do we have to love them?
Not exactly. Picture, if you will (as I believe this to be an accurate picture), the time before the fall of man, who was created to be bodily immortal, when death was yet unknown in the world, and man ate only herbs and seeds, the animal kingdom, being entirely subject to Adam, was then at peace, and all things co-existed in violence free harmony.
It was of this scenario that it is written: "And God saw all the things that he had made, and they were very good. And the evening and morning were the sixth day."
After Adam fell, though, God withdrew much of the comfort and support he had given to earth - He did not create evils, but withdrew goods - and the process of death and decay, a symptom of sin, had begun.
I believe it is in this new environment, where God had withdrawn by degrees from His creation, that poison became rightly so-called, since before it was just some substance or other that God had created good to fulfill a particular function that did not involve death.
So "poisons, germs and viruses" before the fall would have performed some function or other that in no way involved death or decay.
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ROSCOE, I BLOCKED YOU A FEW DAYS AGO, WHY BOTHER ANSWERING ME...GO LOCK YOUR DOOR FROM THE MK ULTRA BOOGEYMONSTERS AND SMOKE YOUR FATTY....IDIOT...
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... even as the green herbs have I given them to you....