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Offline RomanCatholic1953

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Cardinal Burke to be demoted
« Reply #30 on: September 20, 2014, 04:08:57 PM »
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    And now a very Liberal and a progressive has been promoted as the
    Archbishop of Chicago.  He is going to love how the late so-called
    conservative Cardinal Cody remodeled Holy Name Cathedral.
    Some has said that it looks more like the Cathedral of Satan than of
    Jesus Christ and the Catholic Church.
    How sick is it going to get. There is seems to be no end.


    I know. May God have mercy on the faithful of Chicago.


    The Chicago Catholics have never been the same since the days
    of Cardinal Stritch, and Cardinal Meyer.
    Cody was the beginning of the end.
    If you compare pictures of Holy Name Cathedral the way it looked
    before renovation and afterwards. They are posted on this
    forum, you will see what I mean.

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    « Reply #31 on: September 20, 2014, 04:27:08 PM »
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    And now a very Liberal and a progressive has been promoted as the Archbishop of Chicago.  


    And I just saw a news article in my local paper that which called him a "moderate"...


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    « Reply #32 on: September 20, 2014, 04:37:23 PM »
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    And now a very Liberal and a progressive has been promoted as the Archbishop of Chicago.  


    And I just saw a news article in my local paper that which called him a "moderate"...


    If you go to newadvent.com, this is how they described him.

    All News agencies are now controlled by the Left and the progressive
    forces.

    A moderate is a Liberal and a Progressive. This is how Liberals hide
    their real intentions. Which is always to the Left and you have no
    say. And, the dumb people fall for it.

    If you are not a moderate, you are considered a kook. Worse, a radical
    (except for the left) and worse of all a terrorist.

    Liberals are not very charitable in their Language when it comes
    to conservatives and Traditionalists.
    I have known that since the 1960's.

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    « Reply #33 on: September 20, 2014, 06:57:29 PM »
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    He is going to love how the late so-called
    conservative Cardinal Cody remodeled Holy Name Cathedral.
    Some has said that it looks more like the Cathedral of Satan than of
    Jesus Christ and the Catholic Church.




    I'm not even sure that this is as dignified as a Cranmer table.  And Christ looks like he's just hanging out in a hollowed out log with his arms outstretched in a simple gesture of love--no agony, atonement, or justice here--simply love.  I don't even think this passes for a crucifix.  The crucifix depicts Our Lord's wounds, clearly NAILED to a tree rather than chillin' in a hollowed out log, and yes his arms are outstretched in the ultimate gesture of love--but in the context of agony, atonement, and justice because of SIN.

    The message of this depiction is the non-Catholic (a/k/a conciliarist) spin on "love the sinner but hate the sin."  In the world of conciliardom, that message has implicitly/explicitly became love the sinner (not that we're saying anybody is a sinner), tolerate the sin (not that we're saying anything is a sin), and "who are we to judge..."

    Thus, Jesus Christ depicted suffering, in agony, nailed, and with a pierced side in reparation for our sins doesn't fit with the program anymore.  Rather, He is depicted chillin' in a hollowed out log being the merciful judge we all know He is, especially since the JUST judge has been ousted, courtesy of the Council Fathers  :barf: and their successors.

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    « Reply #34 on: September 23, 2014, 03:26:31 AM »
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    At the time, 2Vermont, it was widely reported in the papers.  As far as I remember, Burke refused all comments and simply declared that all who opposed him on the issue didn't know all the facts but he wouldn't make the facts known out of privacy and pastoral concerns.  The "gαy press" was very ecstatic over the issue.  In spite of this, for some reason, few "conservative" or "traditional" Catholics really changed their minds about Burke still thinking that he is the "cat's meow" and "on our side".  I never did understand why.

    An internet search found many articles.  Unfortunately, most of the contemporaneous articles are no longer available online but there are many commentaries that link to other articles (that are no longer available) which reference the case.

    I did find one newspaper article about the case from 2004:

    http://www.riverfronttimes.com/2004-08-25/news/bishop-takes-queen/full/

    Apparently, he's now entering a Novus Ordo Carmelite convent (I think this is the same person):
    http://newwaysministryblog.wordpress.com/2014/07/14/transgender-woman-prepares-to-enter-carmelite-convent/



    Burke then asked the conservative Latin-rite religious order, Institute of Christ the King Sovereign Priest, to perform the Tridentine Mass at what was formerly St. Mary's.

    http://www.riverfronttimes.com/2004-08-25/news/bishop-takes-queen/full/

    The Institute of Christ the King Sovereign Priest is a religous community dedicated to exclusive use of the TLM.


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    « Reply #35 on: September 23, 2014, 06:38:10 AM »
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    At the time, 2Vermont, it was widely reported in the papers.  As far as I remember, Burke refused all comments and simply declared that all who opposed him on the issue didn't know all the facts but he wouldn't make the facts known out of privacy and pastoral concerns.  The "gαy press" was very ecstatic over the issue.  In spite of this, for some reason, few "conservative" or "traditional" Catholics really changed their minds about Burke still thinking that he is the "cat's meow" and "on our side".  I never did understand why.

    An internet search found many articles.  Unfortunately, most of the contemporaneous articles are no longer available online but there are many commentaries that link to other articles (that are no longer available) which reference the case.

    I did find one newspaper article about the case from 2004:

    http://www.riverfronttimes.com/2004-08-25/news/bishop-takes-queen/full/

    Apparently, he's now entering a Novus Ordo Carmelite convent (I think this is the same person):
    http://newwaysministryblog.wordpress.com/2014/07/14/transgender-woman-prepares-to-enter-carmelite-convent/



    Burke then asked the conservative Latin-rite religious order, Institute of Christ the King Sovereign Priest, to perform the Tridentine Mass at what was formerly St. Mary's.

    http://www.riverfronttimes.com/2004-08-25/news/bishop-takes-queen/full/

    The Institute of Christ the King Sovereign Priest is a religous community dedicated to exclusive use of the TLM.


    I'm curious, poche, do you think that asking an order to perform the traditional Mass at a church makes up for making a man a nun?  Is this really what we want the bishops to do?  Give a little to Satan, give a little to God?  What is your point?

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    « Reply #36 on: September 23, 2014, 09:24:57 AM »
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  • No pandering to any crowd by giving them the TLM could even hope to mitigate the blasphemy, revulsion, corruption and sacrilege Burke did by perverting a convent and protecting that tranny freak, Poche.

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    « Reply #37 on: September 23, 2014, 11:42:37 PM »
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    At the time, 2Vermont, it was widely reported in the papers.  As far as I remember, Burke refused all comments and simply declared that all who opposed him on the issue didn't know all the facts but he wouldn't make the facts known out of privacy and pastoral concerns.  The "gαy press" was very ecstatic over the issue.  In spite of this, for some reason, few "conservative" or "traditional" Catholics really changed their minds about Burke still thinking that he is the "cat's meow" and "on our side".  I never did understand why.

    An internet search found many articles.  Unfortunately, most of the contemporaneous articles are no longer available online but there are many commentaries that link to other articles (that are no longer available) which reference the case.

    I did find one newspaper article about the case from 2004:

    http://www.riverfronttimes.com/2004-08-25/news/bishop-takes-queen/full/

    Apparently, he's now entering a Novus Ordo Carmelite convent (I think this is the same person):
    http://newwaysministryblog.wordpress.com/2014/07/14/transgender-woman-prepares-to-enter-carmelite-convent/



    Burke then asked the conservative Latin-rite religious order, Institute of Christ the King Sovereign Priest, to perform the Tridentine Mass at what was formerly St. Mary's.

    http://www.riverfronttimes.com/2004-08-25/news/bishop-takes-queen/full/

    The Institute of Christ the King Sovereign Priest is a religous community dedicated to exclusive use of the TLM.


    I'm curious, poche, do you think that asking an order to perform the traditional Mass at a church makes up for making a man a nun?  Is this really what we want the bishops to do?  Give a little to Satan, give a little to God?  What is your point?


    The original article said that this person had been professed in another community when they applied to Cardinal Burke to found their won community. This person's vows were originally recieved by Archbishop Weakland. The main point is that I would like to give Cardinal Burke the benefit of a doubt.  


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    « Reply #38 on: September 24, 2014, 06:54:44 AM »
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    The original article said that this person had been professed in another community when they applied to Cardinal Burke to found their won community. This person's vows were originally recieved by Archbishop Weakland. The main point is that I would like to give Cardinal Burke the benefit of a doubt.  


    About what are you in doubt?  I still don't understand.  

    This is why I believe that Cardinal Burke will go along with any and all heresy and apostasy from the Vatican.  He will just go along to get along.  If there is something he likes, he will go with it (e.g., the traditional Mass) but he will abandon God when it suits him as well (e.g., accept a male nun).  These are the men who are even more dangerous that the outright and in-your-face liberals for they can fool many people into accepting the unacceptable because they seem to be friendly to tradition.

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    « Reply #39 on: September 24, 2014, 11:07:11 PM »
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    The original article said that this person had been professed in another community when they applied to Cardinal Burke to found their won community. This person's vows were originally recieved by Archbishop Weakland. The main point is that I would like to give Cardinal Burke the benefit of a doubt.  


    About what are you in doubt?  I still don't understand.  

    This is why I believe that Cardinal Burke will go along with any and all heresy and apostasy from the Vatican.  He will just go along to get along.  If there is something he likes, he will go with it (e.g., the traditional Mass) but he will abandon God when it suits him as well (e.g., accept a male nun).  These are the men who are even more dangerous that the outright and in-your-face liberals for they can fool many people into accepting the unacceptable because they seem to be friendly to tradition.


    I wonder if he actually realized that that "nun" was a male. Archbishop Weakland should have.