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They Are Incapable of Leading Souls to God! - Fr. Chazal, MCSPX
« on: September 10, 2026, 10:16:30 PM »

Offline Ladislaus

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Re: They Are Incapable of Leading Souls to God! - Fr. Chazal, MCSPX
« Reply #1 on: September 11, 2026, 11:15:13 AM »
So, this is where Traddies are compartmentalizing their brains.

They pretend that they denounce the notion that non-Catholic religions can be salvific, but they believe that non-Catholics can be saved, based on their sincerely following the beliefs of their false religion.

They speak with forked tongues out of both sides of their mouths.

Vatican II said that non-Catholic religions can be salvific by virtue of elements of the Catholic faith that can be found outside its "visible boundaries".

But according to Trads, the Bible, which stricly belongs to the Catholic religion ... can inspire supernatural faith in Prots who accept it and believe in it, and their believe in the Bible can lead to their salvation.

I find it utterly preplexing, this cognitive dissonane, where Trads condemn the Conciliars for stuff that they too believe.


Offline Twice dyed

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Re: Card. Brandmüller 2026, Exposes the 'Martin Luther' type Synods.
« Reply #2 on: September 12, 2026, 10:05:37 PM »
Fr. Chazal sermon, TIMESTAMP 12: 02, speaks of 'good bishops'. A few minutes later he says: The Truth will come out...

I know nothing of this Cardinal, but this sounds positive.
I enjoyed this article. 97 years old and this Cardinal retains a healthy interpretation of the Catholic Church's history.

Please excuse me, but I don't normally care what the N.Ordos are up to...There are a couple of things I am ignorant about:
1. Which came first? Synods or Episcopal conferences?
2.Synods are increasing because Episcopal Conferences have high prestige? I don't understand that, but the translation looks right.
Quote: "... rise and prestige of the episcopal conferences have resulted in their replacement of the synods and their increasing politicization."


AI Translation: Excerpts.
Summary: What is the laity doing in a synod anyway??  Smacks of Martin Luther >corrupted.

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https://lesalonbeige.fr/le-cardinal-brandmuller-met-en-garde-contre-une-synodalite-en-partie-inspiree-par-le-protestantisme/

  Cardinal Walter Brandmüller has published a new criticism of the Synod on Synodality and the Current Structure of Ecclesiastical Governance. (...) analysis published by Vaticanist Sandro Magister, the 97-year-old German prelate exposed an authentic conception of the synod and warned against the ease with which this assembly can be corrupted.

  Like many analysts, he  [Sandro M.] found that “a clear and unambiguous definition of this word [synodality] is still lacking.” Therefore, Brandmüller stressed that, according to the traditional conception of the Church, a synod is “a meeting of bishops with the aim of jointly exercising their magisterial and pastoral ministry.”

  Created cardinal(...) in 2010, Brandmüller is a respected Church historian, having held the post of President of the Pontifical Committee for the Historical Sciences of the Vatican for 11 years.

  Referring to the mode of organization of the Synod on Synodality, which included lay and clerical voters, Brandmüller said that it could not be described as a synod. The reason for this is that “neither priests nor lay people can exercise the magisterial and pastoral ministry conferred solely on bishops through the sacrament of order.”

  As a result, he warned that the multiplication of this type of meetings within the Church – which has developed in particular thanks to the multi-year synod on synodality – risks desecrating the Church. These meetings stem from “a desire to adopt, more or less without a critical mind, secular structures and democratic procedures in ecclesial life, in order to remain in line with its time [keep updating Td. ],” said the cardinal.
(...) with the rise of this type of meeting and organization, the Church was moving away from its own well-established method of holding a synod and was inspired by the Protestant style.

    “A type of synod is proposed in the Catholic realm, inspired in part by the Protestant model, whose members are democratically elected among pastors, men and women with professional expertise and diverse cultural contexts, all with equal voice. »

  The cardinal compared this evolution to the Protestant revolution and to Martin Luther, pointing out how Luther had argued for this type of involvement of the laity (...) he “asserted that Baptism alone is enough to make a man or a woman priest, bishop and pope.”

    “It is clear that such a conception of synodality is incompatible with Catholic ecclesiology.

  He also warned that negative consequences had been observed within the Church following the adoption of decision-making methods or secularized meetings. According to Brandmüller, the development of episcopal conferences was part of it.

    “Their framework of reference was not the hierarchical structure of the Church, but rather the State concerned.”  "Therefore, the consultative and decision-making activity of the conference was limited to issues relating to the place and action of the Church in the modern secular state."

  But since this was the initial role of the Episcopal Conferences, Brandmüller deplored that Pope Francis had strengthened them in (...) Evangelii Gaudium of 2013. Francis expressed his regret that “a legal status for episcopal conferences, conferring specific powers on them, including a true doctrinal authority, has not yet been sufficiently defined.” This initiative risked undermining the primacy of the doctrinal authority reserved for the papacy, Brandmüller warned.

According to him, the rise and prestige of the episcopal conferences have resulted in their replacement of the synods and their increasing politicization.

    “It is difficult to ignore that this is a testament to the growing secularization of the conception of the Church. "

Brandmüller went so far as to affirm that, in the modern and political style of the episcopal conferences,

    “We recognize an ecclesiological neo-arianism which, without expressly denying the supernatural character of the Church, ignores it more or less: the Church as a social entity.

  Instead of following this growing trend, he insisted that synods should be restored within the particular Churches and, in doing so, restore “their original importance.” This, according to Brandmüller, would help to “effectively counter the Church’s process of secularization and take a decisive step towards her “de-secularization.”

  Despite his advanced age, Brandmüller(...) joined two other cardinals to address dubium to Pope Francis: for the first time in 2016 about Amoris Laetitia, and then in 2023 about the Synod on Synodality. In signing the dubia of 2023, the five cardinals warned that the Synod was an event “that many want to use to deny Catholic doctrine on the very issues raised by our dubia.” The detailed questions of the dubia had to be readressed  to the Pope, because his initial answers had only “accentuated” the concerns expressed (...). In addition to Brandmüller, the signatories of the of 2023 were Raymond L. Burke,(...); Juan Sandoval Íñiguez, (...); Robert Sarah, (...); and Joseph Zen, (...)

Offline Twice dyed

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...Clear fact that Leo XIV has endorsed the synodal process ...
« Reply #3 on: September 17, 2026, 10:33:40 PM »
The Novus Ordo church has been unravelling since 1965ish, plus today it is disfigured by modernist agents to "Flatten"the hierachy model.

https://nonpossumus-vcr.blogspot.com/2026/09/la-sinodalidad-es-el-modernismo-de.html
AI Translation, Excerpt.

words of Mons. Rob Mutsaerts:
...Have conversions, attendance at Mass, priestly vocations increased? Has the Eucharistic reverence grown? Has the moral teaching of the Church been clarified? Because, in the current synod speech – says Don Jorge González – the synodality threatens to become an end in itself. And that’s where the problem begins, from a traditional Catholic perspective.”

  And while these prophetic voices warn of the danger, from the ecclesial officialdom we are told otherwise. Let’s look at only two recent examples.
     Infovaticana published a few weeks ago a text by Brad Miner entitled “Synodality will kill Catholicism”, where it could be read that “The claim to have received the Truth and to keep it is the whole raison d’être of the Church and makes it something different from a voluntary religious association. But synodality, whatever its defenders say, introduces a mechanism capable of dissolving that claim: a permanent, indefinite and participatory process to generate endless contemporary ecclesial consensuses that function more and more as rival sources of authority together with the settled deposit of the faith and – from the point of view of the innovators – ahead of it and, therefore, of the Magisterium destined to keep it. The vagueness we have seen so far in the synodal process has not been incidental. It is a feature, not a defect. After multiple synodal meetings, the Church remains without a fixed definition of synodality: only descriptions of a “style”, a “process”, an “instinct”; and this inability to clearly define synodality is not a minor omission.”
    In another text, entitled “Selling radical synodality as a social prophecy, InfoVaticana reported on how
the recent annual assembly of the Leadership Conference of Religious Women received a video message from the Pope in which he affirmed that “all Christians are called to be builders of the communion of Christ, formed in a synodal Church in which everyone cooperates in the same mission according to their own charism and ministry. In a special way, those who integrate religious life are called to become experts in synodality because of the opportunities that community life gives them to practice, as well as the very structure in which their congregations are organized.”
  At the meeting, the French religious Nathalie Becquart, secretary of the Synod of Bishops, made opaquely revealing comments: “synodality is presented as a necessary innovation, a different culture, an indispensable reform effort to recover the true identity and vitality of the Church. Synodality would imply the birth of a new style of “being a Church,” but it would not be “another Church” in contradiction with the presynodal Church.
  The P. Gerald E. Murray, author of this translated article from The Catholic Thing, is clear that “the synodal project is an attempt to reshape the Catholic Church to make it a new entity, akin to various Protestant churches,” and that “the flattener of synodality constitutes a danger to the Church. It must be recognized for what it is and stopped before it wreaks further havoc on the Church.”...