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Re: The temptation of sedevacantism - Dominicans Avrille
« Reply #45 on: December 22, 2025, 08:15:02 PM »
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  • :facepalm:  Dogmatic sedeism should be rejected, just like the 'dogmatic R&Rism' of the Arville Dominicans.

    Both R&R is a theory and so is Sedeism.  That is the conclusion.  That is the truth. 

    Any side which wavers from theory to dogmatism, is wrong.  The current crisis has. no. concrete. solution.  Why is this so difficult for Trad clerics to grasp?

    Every flavor of Tradism, if it is valid, and if it rejects V2/new mass = acceptable to God.

    Outside of this, and God is not pleased.  It's that simple. 
    Unfortunately and since at least 2013, many traditional priests and bishops who are no longer part of the NeoSSPX have fallen into error and now a false mentality of “whatever nourishes your faith” which means the New Mass is not absolutely rejected in all cases.

    This of course trickles down to a tradecuмenism and a blending of the Conciliar SSPX with the SSPX of old, truth annd error,  and really any other compromised group so long as it “nourishes your faith” and is “valid”
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    Re: The temptation of sedevacantism - Dominicans Avrille
    « Reply #46 on: Yesterday at 06:15:14 AM »
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  • Unfortunately and since at least 2013, many traditional priests and bishops who are no longer part of the NeoSSPX have fallen into error and now a false mentality of “whatever nourishes your faith” which means the New Mass is not absolutely rejected in all cases.



    I know not one single priest or Bishop in the resistance who thinks that. Bishop Williamson only said it passing one time. And did not promote it.


    We do however have a problem with indifference relating to SSPX Mass attendance. Maybe you're talking about that?



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    Re: The temptation of sedevacantism - Dominicans Avrille
    « Reply #47 on: Yesterday at 06:17:47 AM »
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  • :facepalm:  Dogmatic sedeism should be rejected, just like the 'dogmatic R&Rism' of the Arville Dominicans.

    Both R&R is a theory and so is Sedeism.  That is the conclusion.  That is the truth. 

    Any side which wavers from theory to dogmatism, is wrong.  The current crisis has. no. concrete. solution.  Why is this so difficult for Trad clerics to grasp?

    Every flavor of Tradism, if it is valid, and if it rejects V2/new mass = acceptable to God.

    Outside of this, and God is not pleased.  It's that simple. 

    400 Thuc line Bishops. Numerous Popes. 

    Compare that to three SSPX Bishops who went under Rome, but now we have seven who are faithful successors to Bishop Williamson.

    It's clear to honest, non sperging, individuals where the remnant is.


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    Re: The temptation of sedevacantism - Dominicans Avrille
    « Reply #48 on: Yesterday at 09:11:25 AM »
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  • 400 Thuc line Bishops. Numerous Popes.

    Is it really that many! Did you count them? It's a sign of the times. The confusion and deceptions run wide. Thuc did a few consecrations himself and hoped they would bring forth good fruit. He was deceived into the consecrations. The fault is with the deceivers.


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    Compare that to three SSPX Bishops who went under Rome, but now we have seven who are faithful successors to Bishop Williamson.

    Is schism good to have with faithful successors of "recognize pope & ignore him" schismatic thinking?


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    It's clear to honest, non sperging, individuals where the remnant is.

    The good-standing lines are good-standing in themselves. It has nothing to do with lines that went bad.

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    Re: The temptation of sedevacantism - Dominicans Avrille
    « Reply #49 on: Yesterday at 04:41:02 PM »
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  • Is it really that many! Did you count them? It's a sign of the times. The confusion and deceptions run wide. Thuc did a few consecrations himself and hoped they would bring forth good fruit. He was deceived into the consecrations. The fault is with the deceivers.


    Is schism good to have with faithful successors of "recognize pope & ignore him" schismatic thinking?


    The good-standing lines are good-standing in themselves. It has nothing to do with lines that went bad.


    Thuc lines is not good standing because they are all doubtful
    And yes it is quite a lot of Bishops .
    Maybe 399


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    « Reply #50 on: Yesterday at 04:53:56 PM »
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  • Thuc lines is not good standing because they are all doubtful
    And yes it is quite a lot of Bishops .
    Maybe 399

    Sure, you counted 399.... ::)

    There is no evidence at all that Thuc consecrated invalidly.

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    « Reply #51 on: Yesterday at 06:18:24 PM »
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