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Offline Freind

Re: The temptation of sedevacantism - Dominicans Avrille
« Reply #25 on: December 22, 2025, 11:21:04 AM »
Quote from: TomGubbinsKimmage on December 22, 2025, 11:16:19 AM
Not quite. It's because the moral certainty we would normally have comes from the hierarchy as a whole and their action. It's THEIR job, not ours to decide who becomes Pope. If they keep electing heretics, thats on them. We as laity just have to avoid associating with them and the Pope they elect.

Yes, resist a man you say is a true pope. 

Did you see the post I made giving St. Francis de Sales' quote about a pope becoming an explicit heretic?  No faculty or authority is required to determined he is no longer pope. The only authority to free up the Roman See for another election is not them. We ALL determine a man is a false pope by the authority of reason enlightened by faith.
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Offline Freind

Re: The temptation of sedevacantism - Dominicans Avrille
« Reply #26 on: December 22, 2025, 11:22:50 AM »
Quote from: TomGubbinsKimmage on December 22, 2025, 11:18:08 AM
So cute to watch sedes try to appear more intelligent that the resistance.

Not intelligence; a greater virtue of faith. Whether that looks "cute" to you, perhaps we can argue whether milk tastes good.
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Offline MiracleOfTheSun

Re: The temptation of sedevacantism - Dominicans Avrille
« Reply #27 on: December 22, 2025, 01:47:17 PM »
Quote from: TomGubbinsKimmage on December 22, 2025, 06:24:25 AM
You ...attack the resistance, because they are a threat to you. 

Serious question: where do you come up with these ideas???
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Offline gladius_veritatis

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Re: The temptation of sedevacantism - Dominicans Avrille
« Reply #28 on: December 22, 2025, 02:05:24 PM »
Quote from: TomGubbinsKimmage on December 22, 2025, 11:18:08 AM
So cute to watch sedes try to appear more intelligent that the resistance.

Some might say it is even cuter to watch you make it clear that you are less intelligent than the vast majority of Trads of whatever persuasion.
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Offline Ladislaus

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Re: The temptation of sedevacantism - Dominicans Avrille
« Reply #29 on: December 22, 2025, 02:07:28 PM »
Quote from: MiracleOfTheSun on December 22, 2025, 01:47:17 PM
Serious question: where do you come up with these ideas???

As I've pointed out in my previous interractions with this joker, his mind appears to have been warped by malice, which often has the result of warping your logical faculties.  St. Thomas points out that since the intellect is naturally inclined to truth, which is its proper object, deviations from the truth tend to involve the action of bad will.
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