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Title: The Hidden Pope Theory - Fr. Chazal, MCSPX
Post by: DigitalLogos on November 22, 2021, 11:40:00 AM

https://youtu.be/wYOLpXVj8CE

Title: Re: The Hidden Pope Theory - Fr. Chazal, MCSPX
Post by: Incredulous on November 22, 2021, 03:16:58 PM

I respectively disagree with Father Chazal:

1. Father discussed Cardinal Siri's weaknesses, but didn't touch on the Canonical aspects of a hijacked Conclave in 1958.

2. It is pretty clear that in 1958, Cardinal Siri was the favorite and was elected. He accepted the Seat and took a Papal Name, Gregory XVII.
    By his Conclave actions, he was Pope.

3. And any tampering of the Conclave would have automatically invalidated it.

4. That Pope Gregory XVII stepped down under intense intimidation and played the submissive role of a Consiliar cardinal is not disputed.
    But being forced to step down, invalidated the same Conclave that later claimed John XXIII was Pope.

5. There's evidence that Cardinal Siri had taken an oath not to speak about the Conclave coup de tat', regretted his actions and was poisoned in 1989.

Gary Guiffre developed this hidden Siri history over a number of years.  His arguments and videos can be found at: https://whitesmoke1958.com/

But the more devastating evidence of the hijacked Conclave was produced by Chiesa Viva who published correspondence from Msgr. Bugnini to his masonic bosses.  Defeatmodernism posted these videos recently. They are shocking, but fill in the missing pieces of how our Church was hijacked.

Diabolical Secret I (https://youtu.be/3X464pUhhxs)

Diabolical Secret II (https://youtu.be/by6TgIIw4IM)


Finally, to avoid the condemnation by SSPX Resistance and SSPX members that saying Francis is not the Pope is sede-vacantist heresy, please refer to the original St. Michael's prayer penned by Pope Leo XIII.   It speaks of one Church and two thrones.

To Father Chazal, I would counter:  Yes, Francis is Pope of the false Throne.   

Cardinal Siri was technically Pope of the true Throne, even though he failed it.

Original Prayer to St Michael the Archangel
O Glorious Archangel St. Michael, Prince of the heavenly host, be our defense in the terrible warfare which we carry on against principalities and powers, against the rulers of this world of darkness, and spirits of evil.

Come to the aid of man, whom God created immortal, made in His own image and likeness, and redeemed at a great price from the tyranny of the devil. Fight this day the battle of the Lord, together with the holy angels, as already thou hast fought the leader of the proud angels, Lucifer, and his apostate host, who were powerless to resist Thee, nor was there place for them any longer in heaven. That cruel, that ancient serpent, who is called the devil or Satan, who seduces the whole world, was cast into the abyss with his angels.

Behold, this primeval enemy and slayer of men has taken courage. Transformed into an angel of light, he wanders about with all the multitude of wicked spirits, invading the earth in order to blot out the name of God and of His Christ, to seize upon, slay and cast into eternal perdition souls destined for the crown of eternal glory. This wicked dragon pours out, as a most impure flood, the venom of his malice on men; his depraved mind, corrupt heart, his spirit of lying, impiety, blasphemy, his pestilential breath of impurity and of every vice and iniquity. These most crafty enemies have filled and inebriated with gall and bitterness the Church, the Spouse of the Immaculate Lamb, and have laid impious hands on her most sacred possessions. In the Holy Place itself, where has been set up the See of the most holy Peter and the Chair of Truth for the light of the world, they have raised the throne of their abominable impiety, with the iniquitous design that when the Pastor has been struck, the sheep may be scattered.

Arise then, O invincible Prince, bring help against the attacks of the lost spirits to the people of God, and give them the victory. They venerate Thee as their protector and patron; in Thee Holy Church glories as her defense against the malicious power of hell; to Thee has God entrusted the souls of men to be established in heavenly beatitude. Oh, pray to the God of peace that He may put Satan under our feet, so far conquered that he may no longer be able to hold men in captivity and harm the Church. Offer our prayers in the sight of the Most High, so that they may quickly conciliate the mercies of the Lord; and beating down the dragon, the ancient serpent who is the devil and Satan, do Thou again make him captive in the abyss, that he may no longer seduce the nations. Amen.

• Behold the Cross of the Lord; be scattered, hostile powers.
• The Lion of the tribe of Judah has conquered, the root of David.
• Let Thy mercies be upon us, O Lord
• As we have hoped in Thee.
• O Lord, hear my prayer.
• And let my cry come unto Thee

LET US PRAY
God, the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, we call upon Thy holy name, and we humbly implore Thy clemency, that by the intercession of Mary, ever Virgin Immaculate and our Mother, and of the glorious Archangel St. Michael, Thou wouldst deign to help us against Satan and all other unclean spirits, who wander about the world for the injury of the human race and the ruin of souls.

Title: Re: The Hidden Pope Theory - Fr. Chazal, MCSPX
Post by: Ladislaus on November 22, 2021, 03:21:17 PM

Right, Father Chazal characterizes Cardinal Siri as a coward.  That's not really the point.  Question is whether he was elected, and illegitimately forced to resign, therefore impeding Roncalli et al. from being legitimately elected.  I do not believe that there's a "Pope in Hiding" and agree that whole thing was a scam.  But that's not really relevant either.  Siri would have impeded the election of J23, P6, JP1, and JP2.

Argument is that the Holy Spirit would have prevented the evils of V2 under a legitimate papacy.

Title: Re: The Hidden Pope Theory - Fr. Chazal, MCSPX
Post by: Incredulous on November 22, 2021, 04:16:42 PM

Agree, a decendent "Pope in hiding" doesn't seem to have merit.

Title: Re: The Hidden Pope Theory - Fr. Chazal, MCSPX
Post by: DigitalLogos on November 26, 2021, 03:38:04 PM

The problem I have with the Siri Thesis, as Fr. Chazal here points out, is that he still accepted Vatican II, implemented Vatican II, and celebrated the NOM while acting as one of those persecuting Abp. Lefebvre. I don't at all see that as someone who is legitimately a Pope, no matter how secret.

Sure, it could be chocked up to his believing his immediate abdication was valid and therefore that he did not formally hold Papal authority. And given Catholic prophecy, there is supposed to be a very old Pope in exile (successor of Siri?), but, I just don't see enough definite proof to make this thesis valid.


I hope to God it's true, as it would be a significant means of supporting the illegitimacy of the V2 Anti-Popes.

Title: Re: The Hidden Pope Theory - Fr. Chazal, MCSPX
Post by: Ladislaus on November 26, 2021, 06:59:58 PM

Quote from: DigitalLogos on November 26, 2021, 03:38:04 PM

The problem I have with the Siri Thesis, as Fr. Chazal here points out, is that he still accepted Vatican II, implemented Vatican II, and celebrated the NOM while acting as one of those persecuting Abp. Lefebvre. I don't at all see that as someone who is legitimately a Pope, no matter how secret.

What does that have to do with anything?  Popes are protected not personally but in their Magisterium.  He could have been the greatest scoundrel in the world in his personal capacity and that would have nothing whatsoever to do with his legitimacy.

Title: Re: The Hidden Pope Theory - Fr. Chazal, MCSPX
Post by: Incredulous on November 27, 2021, 10:57:22 AM

Quote from: DigitalLogos on November 26, 2021, 03:38:04 PM

The problem I have with the Siri Thesis, as Fr. Chazal here points out, is that he still accepted Vatican II, implemented Vatican II, and celebrated the NOM while acting as one of those persecuting Abp. Lefebvre. I don't at all see that as someone who is legitimately a Pope, no matter how secret.

Sure, it could be chocked up to his believing his immediate abdication was valid and therefore that he did not formally hold Papal authority. And given Catholic prophecy, there is supposed to be a very old Pope in exile (successor of Siri?), but, I just don't see enough definite proof to make this thesis valid.


I hope to God it's true, as it would be a significant means of supporting the illegitimacy of the V2 Anti-Popes.

Poor Cardinal Siri.  What was going on in his mind? 

He must have suffered from immense guilt knowing he had betrayed the Papacy and Church?

When confronted by the Vietnamese priest, who knew he cooperated in the Papacy’s hijacking, he responded by referring to the “oath” he had taken.

Guessing he was brainwashed to some extent, to keep him silent?

Title: Re: The Hidden Pope Theory - Fr. Chazal, MCSPX
Post by: Anne Evergreen on December 18, 2021, 05:38:10 PM

Quote from: Incredulous on November 22, 2021, 04:16:42 PM

Agree, a decendent "Pope in hiding" doesn't seem to have merit.

I had a friend a long time ago that went running off to Rome. She was very quiet in her description of why she was going, and I was rattling on about visiting the sites. "No, I am going to find the Pope." "What happened to him, he's at the Vatican?" "No, the real Pope is in hiding." "Okayyyy, yeah, it's been great, but I better head home. Thanks for dinner ladies!" :laugh2:

Title: Re: The Hidden Pope Theory - Fr. Chazal, MCSPX
Post by: Anne Evergreen on December 18, 2021, 05:44:28 PM

Quote from: Incredulous on November 27, 2021, 10:57:22 AM

Poor Cardinal Siri.  What was going on in his mind? 

He must have suffered from immense guilt knowing he had betrayed the Papacy and Church?

When confronted by the Vietnamese priest, who knew he cooperated in the Papacy’s hijacking, he responded by referring to the “oath” he had taken.

Guessing he was brainwashed to some extent, to keep him silent?

What if Cardinal Siri was actually a Free Mason and the oath he was referring to was that one? If he was high enough up the ranks, and he betrayed them, they would want him dead, as their form of punishment. If he regretted what he had done (say, being a FreeMason), and tried to confess his oath, then perhaps word got out that he wanted out, and he was murdered (or poisoned as it was suspected as was previously mentioned)?

Title: Re: The Hidden Pope Theory - Fr. Chazal, MCSPX
Post by: Anne Evergreen on December 18, 2021, 05:51:27 PM

Quote from: Incredulous on November 22, 2021, 03:16:58 PM

I respectively disagree with Father Chazal:

1. Father discussed Cardinal Siri's weaknesses, but didn't touch on the Canonical aspects of a hijacked Conclave in 1958.

2. It is pretty clear that in 1958, Cardinal Siri was the favorite and was elected. He accepted the Seat and took a Papal Name, Gregory XVII.
    By his Conclave actions, he was Pope.

3. And any tampering of the Conclave would have automatically invalidated it.

4. That Pope Gregory XVII stepped down under intense intimidation and played the submissive role of a Consiliar cardinal is not disputed.
    But being forced to step down, invalidated the same Conclave that later claimed John XXIII was Pope.

5. There's evidence that Cardinal Siri had taken an oath not to speak about the Conclave coup de tat', regretted his actions and was poisoned in 1989.

Gary Guiffre developed this hidden Siri history over a number of years.  His arguments and videos can be found at: https://whitesmoke1958.com/

But the more devastating evidence of the hijacked Conclave was produced by Chiesa Viva who published correspondence from Msgr. Bugnini to his masonic bosses.  Defeatmodernism posted these videos recently. They are shocking, but fill in the missing pieces of how our Church was hijacked.

Diabolical Secret I (https://youtu.be/3X464pUhhxs)

Diabolical Secret II (https://youtu.be/by6TgIIw4IM)


Finally, to avoid the condemnation by SSPX Resistance and SSPX members that saying Francis is not the Pope is sede-vacantist heresy, please refer to the original St. Michael's prayer penned by Pope Leo XIII.  It speaks of one Church and two thrones.

To Father Chazal, I would counter:  Yes, Francis is Pope of the false Throne.   

Cardinal Siri was technically Pope of the true Throne, even though he failed it.

Original Prayer to St Michael the Archangel
O Glorious Archangel St. Michael, Prince of the heavenly host, be our defense in the terrible warfare which we carry on against principalities and powers, against the rulers of this world of darkness, and spirits of evil.

Come to the aid of man, whom God created immortal, made in His own image and likeness, and redeemed at a great price from the tyranny of the devil. Fight this day the battle of the Lord, together with the holy angels, as already thou hast fought the leader of the proud angels, Lucifer, and his apostate host, who were powerless to resist Thee, nor was there place for them any longer in heaven. That cruel, that ancient serpent, who is called the devil or Satan, who seduces the whole world, was cast into the abyss with his angels.

Behold, this primeval enemy and slayer of men has taken courage. Transformed into an angel of light, he wanders about with all the multitude of wicked spirits, invading the earth in order to blot out the name of God and of His Christ, to seize upon, slay and cast into eternal perdition souls destined for the crown of eternal glory. This wicked dragon pours out, as a most impure flood, the venom of his malice on men; his depraved mind, corrupt heart, his spirit of lying, impiety, blasphemy, his pestilential breath of impurity and of every vice and iniquity. These most crafty enemies have filled and inebriated with gall and bitterness the Church, the Spouse of the Immaculate Lamb, and have laid impious hands on her most sacred possessions. In the Holy Place itself, where has been set up the See of the most holy Peter and the Chair of Truth for the light of the world, they have raised the throne of their abominable impiety, with the iniquitous design that when the Pastor has been struck, the sheep may be scattered.

Arise then, O invincible Prince, bring help against the attacks of the lost spirits to the people of God, and give them the victory. They venerate Thee as their protector and patron; in Thee Holy Church glories as her defense against the malicious power of hell; to Thee has God entrusted the souls of men to be established in heavenly beatitude. Oh, pray to the God of peace that He may put Satan under our feet, so far conquered that he may no longer be able to hold men in captivity and harm the Church. Offer our prayers in the sight of the Most High, so that they may quickly conciliate the mercies of the Lord; and beating down the dragon, the ancient serpent who is the devil and Satan, do Thou again make him captive in the abyss, that he may no longer seduce the nations. Amen.

• Behold the Cross of the Lord; be scattered, hostile powers.
• The Lion of the tribe of Judah has conquered, the root of David.
• Let Thy mercies be upon us, O Lord
• As we have hoped in Thee.
• O Lord, hear my prayer.
• And let my cry come unto Thee

LET US PRAY
God, the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, we call upon Thy holy name, and we humbly implore Thy clemency, that by the intercession of Mary, ever Virgin Immaculate and our Mother, and of the glorious Archangel St. Michael, Thou wouldst deign to help us against Satan and all other unclean spirits, who wander about the world for the injury of the human race and the ruin of souls.

I have always thought Pope Paul V1 was scary-looking. To me, his eyes are creepy. They are not soft at all.
Why do you think Pope John Paul 1 only lasted 33 days? Do you think he was poisoned by his assistant? Or?

Title: Re: The Hidden Pope Theory - Fr. Chazal, MCSPX
Post by: Incredulous on December 18, 2021, 05:59:51 PM

I just came across this link and hold the website owner to be of questionable character.  Won't go into details now.

But the interesting point here, are Marie Julie Jahenny's papal quotes below.

MJJ was a humble and obscure French mystic and her Catholic reputation appears solid.
Does anyone has access to her transcripts and can compare them to the quotes below.?




True Papal Restoration (http://www.papalrestoration.com/)

In Today's Catholic World News Blog



Marie-Julie Jahenny Prophecies on Hostage Pope "Siri"

"A pope will suffer torment beyond his powers. He will be discarded and sidelined."

(Prophecy of Marie-Julie Jahenny on August 5th, 1878)

"...It is Me who will give you this pontiff. Pray for him: he will have
under his sight a fierce revolt! Until his death, his hand will hold on
unto the Cross and won’t let it go. Pray, I beg you, pray!, because the
Faith and Religion will be crushed under the feet of those criminals."
(Our Blessed Lord to Marie-Julie Jahenny on September 3rd, 1878)

(https://cdn.simplesite.com/i/8f/c9/283163833147115919/i283163839633984925._szw1280h1280_.jpg)

L/R: (1.) Catholic prophetess Marie-Julie Jahenny (https://www.tcwblog.com/182861438/6732020/posting/the-holy-bishop-of-nantes-praise-of-marie-julie-jahenny) photographed in a state of spiritual ecstasy. (2.) As a Cardinal, Giuseppe Siri of Genoa, Italy was known to be the handpicked successor (https://www.tcwblog.com/182861438/5653352/posting/more-on-pius-xii-s-worthy-successor-gregory-xvii-siri) of Pius XII. (3.) Papal Conclave on Oct 26, 1958 at 6:00 p.m., white smoke (https://www.tcwblog.com/182861438/2645355/posting/ch-2-smoke-from-the-sistine-chapel-confusion) bellows forth from the Sistine Chapel for five minutes, indicating Siri is elected Pope. He *accepted (https://www.tcwblog.com/182861438/4509580/posting/fr-charles-roux-siri-was-elected-pope-never-abdicated) the office and chose the name Gregory XVII. Then, a freemasonic (http://destroyFɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ.com/) coup d'etat occurred within the conclave (http://todayscatholicworld.com/oct-26-1958-conclave-pope-gregory-xvii-elected.png) itself - violently (https://www.tcwblog.com/182861438/4527431/posting/a-call-for-help-forbidden-under-pain-of-torture-death) "blocking" the newly elected pope. [*Note: "The person thus elected [pope] acquires full jurisdiction over the universal Church immediately on consenting, and becomes the Vicar of Christ on earth." ("Canonical Elections (http://todayscatholicworld.com/canonical-elections-imprimatur.pdf)" p. 107, Imprimatur 1917)]

"Hell will launch.. an ultimate struggle against My representative [the True/exiled Pope].
(Our Blessed Lord to Marie-Julie Jahenny on September 29th, 1878)

"The Pope will be attacked and taken prisoner, all ecclesiastical authorities
[i.e., those in union with him] will be persecuted; at first, they will be allowed to
practice their ministry, then, they will be removed from their posts and then
order will come for their departure. The wicked will take their place; new
types of ceremonies will be put in place...  against the Faith and Divine laws."
(Prophecy of Marie-Julie Jahenny on September 19th, 1881)

"He will not have a voice like the past pontiffs. But he will

continue to provide for his children and the infallible church."

(Prophecy of Marie-Julie Jahenny on January 11th, 1881)

(https://cdn.simplesite.com/i/8f/c9/283163833147115919/i283163839633985667._szw1280h1280_.jpg)

Upper L: (1.) Marie-Julie Jahenny, "The Breton Stigmatist (https://www.tcwblog.com/182861438/6746129/posting/marie-julie-jahenny-visted-by-pilgrims-for-7-decades)" receiving instructions/revelations from Heaven c. 1930. Upper R: (2.) The Hostage Pope, Gregory XVII, shown under his (often stealthy) decades-long, 24/7 surveillance. Lower L: (3.) Pope Gregory XVII although under a constant, fatiguing (strategically inflicted) Gethsemane, by Satan's masons - coupled with the more painful heartbreaking public abandonment by His Own (Cardinals), is shown in a rare (MSM published) photo openly confronting (https://www.tcwblog.com/182861438/6756594/posting/gregory-xvii-condemns-the-demolishers-v2-sectarians) the fraud Wojtyla (http://opusdeialert.com/footnotes.htm). Lower R: (4.) Historic photograph taken on June 15th, 1988 (see time stamp on lower right corner) at the Istituto Ravasco convent in Rome, docuмenting the third clandestine meeting an individual - and team of True clergy had with the "suffering Pontiff (http://www.tcwblog.com/182861419)" (foretold by Our Lady of Fatima (http://www.todayscatholicworld.com/oct06tcw.htm#sister-lucy)).

"The Church will be deprived of her supreme chief who is now governing her. For a fairly long time the Church will be deprived of prayer and offices. She will be exiled by God and from His chosen ones. . .  In deep mourning the Church will no longer hear the ringing of her bells. From the eyes of the Church I see tears of distress flowing down."
(Prophecy of Marie-Julie Jahenny on March 29th, 1881)

“Within a short time daughter, only a few priests will be
left, who will obey the luminous voice which is the command
of all men on earth, as the chief of the most Holy Church.”

(Our Blessed Lord to Marie-Julie Jahenny on October 27th, 1884)

(https://cdn.simplesite.com/i/8f/c9/283163833147115919/i283163839632214570._szw1280h1280_.jpg)

Exclusive TCW pictures of Mon. Carlo Taramasso (https://www.tcwblog.com/182861438/6930168/posting/), who was *made a Cardinal by the Hostage Pope, Gregory XVII, in June 1988 at the Istituto Ravasco convent in Rome, Italy - and served as His Holiness' (secret) Secretary of State for 9 months before his (Card. Taramasso's) mysterious death on March 16, 1989. (From L/R Cardinal Taramasso's ordination (https://www.tcwblog.com/182861438/6930991/posting/basilica-where-cardinal-taramasso-was-ordained-in-1952) to the priesthood 1952; a picture of His Eminence c. 1980's.) [*Note: Gregory XVII formulated/implemented a detailed Continuance of Papacy Plan from 1988 to 1989, which included creating Bishops (with canonical mission (https://www.tcwblog.com/182861438/2303271/posting/) - jurisdiction).]

"It will be a great devastation. I, your God, will have purified
everything. The survivors [of these trials, which seemingly will
include the 3 Days of Darkness -ED] must give thanks to the Blessed
Trinity for their protection. Magnificent shall My Kingdom of peace
be, and My name shall be invoked and praised from sunrise to sunset."
(Our Blessed Lord to Marie-Julie Jahenny c. 1933)

(https://cdn.simplesite.com/i/8f/c9/283163833147115919/i283163839633990979._szw1280h1280_.jpg)
    In his Summa Contra Gentiles, Lib. IV, cap. LXXVI, St. Thomas Aquinas teaches:

  “To conserve the Unity of the Church, the power of the keys must be

    passed on through Peter to the other pastors of the Church.”

Pope Pius XI wrote in Mortalium Animos:

“It follows then that the Church of Christ not only exists to-day and always, but is also exactly the same as it was in the time of the Apostles, unless we were to say, which God forbid, either that Christ our Lord could not effect His purpose, or that He erred when He asserted that the gates of hell should never prevail against it.”

Related Links:

Prayers to Hasten True Papal Restoration (https://www.tcwblog.com/182861438/7039016/posting/the-divine-hands-of-our-saviour-devotion-imprimatur) [Total Victory for the Successors of Gregory XVII]

Marie-Julie Jahenny Prophecies on Hidden King & Clergy (https://www.tcwblog.com/182861438/6988726/posting/marie-julie-jahenny-prophecies-on-hidden-king-clergy)

Pope Gregory XVII Defends Papal Jurisdiction Against the Usurpers (https://www.tcwblog.com/182861438/1115870/posting/)

Pope St. Pius X Prophecy of Gregory XVII's Exile & Captivity (http://www.tcwblog.com/182861438/2148027/posting/pius-x-prophecy-of-gregory-xvii-s-exile-captivity)

TCW Statement on Current Situation/Crisis of The Church (https://www.tcwblog.com/182861438/6989000/posting/tcw-statement-on-current-situation-crisis-of-the-church)

(Video): St. Nicolas of Fluh on Triumph of Exiled Holy Father (https://www.tcwblog.com/182861438/2135848/posting/st-nicolas-of-fluh-on-triumph-of-our-exiled-holy-father)

Mont Saint-Michel to be Meeting Place After "The 3 Days of Darkness" (https://www.tcwblog.com/182861438/2600014/posting/)

Title: Re: The Hidden Pope Theory - Fr. Chazal, MCSPX
Post by: Incredulous on December 18, 2021, 06:10:44 PM

Quote from: Anne Evergreen on December 18, 2021, 05:51:27 PM

I have always thought Pope Paul V1 was scary-looking. To me, his eyes are creepy. They are not soft at all.
Why do you think Pope John Paul 1 only lasted 33 days? Do you think he was poisoned by his assistant? Or?

I think the poisoning assassination of JPI was publicly revealed in detail on the conspiracy sites?

Pathetically, they had him embalmed before they even announced he was dead.

(https://media.gettyimages.com/photos/pope-john-paul-i-is-shown-here-as-he-lies-in-state-in-clementine-hall-picture-id517432066)


If that's not a sign of a ʝʊdɛօ-masonic, rat infested Vatican, there never was one. :laugh1:

Title: Re: The Hidden Pope Theory - Fr. Chazal, MCSPX
Post by: Prayerful on December 18, 2021, 07:21:01 PM

Quote from: Anne Evergreen on December 18, 2021, 05:51:27 PM

I have always thought Pope Paul V1 was scary-looking. To me, his eyes are creepy. They are not soft at all.
Why do you think Pope John Paul 1 only lasted 33 days? Do you think he was poisoned by his assistant? Or?

The Pillar (https://www.pillarcatholic.com/p/was-pope-john-paul-i-murdered) makes a decent case that the last man to see him alive, Cardinal Sebastiano Baggio killed him. JP1 may not have been an arch trad, but this prefect for the Congregation of Bishops had appointed many unworthy men. Only later was this Cardinal removed. It is left unsaid, but JP1 possibly bit off more than he could chew, and JP2, or least the worthier of his advisors, took the necessary time to sideline him, putting him in charge of new postage stamps rather bishops.