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The Decision to Withdraw
Now, if I have an order of knights where the the general can do whatever he likes and is above all laws, I don't want knights in Asia. I don't want them. I I I pull out. I am not the general chap chaplain anymore. I tell father to stop supporting the knights and all the other priests and the bishop likewise. I don't want to see those flags and those knights of our lady around because this is exactly what happened to us within the SSPX.
I was a priest of the SSPX. Bishop Flet got too much power and because he had all power, he changes the he changes the policy of the SSPX. It changes the engagement they took never to have a deal with Rome unless Rome converts, comes back to tradition. That was a deal. That was the basic agreement that Archbishop told them. You wait for the conversion of Rome. You and 2006 there was a general chapter. No practical deal with Rome unless Rome converts. We are called the Mar core of St. Pance. We remain until our last breath the the children, the sons of senpai.
The Current Situation and Unanimity
unity on this question except with the Dominicans but the bishops are on the same wave wavelength that's why the Jeier side has bishop Balini or even Bishop Stiki as a bishop protector And recently Jeiera had a good dinner with Bishop F who understands also the situation. So except for the Dominicans but the Dominicans don't have their bearings perfect with the SSPX either but except with them there is unanimity about what happened in the nights of our lady.
Reason 1: The Constitutional Problem
Now, the first reason I cannot collaborate with Serge Lapio it's because of the constit constitutional problem. He wants he wants an order of knight which is the personal guard of seratio. He wants absolute power within the nights of our lady and I cannot accept that. It's not possible because you could have it in normal times because in normal times there would be a pope you would have the Roman curia. So you would be invented and in and inspected from above. Your power would not be absolute because you would be liable to inspection and possibly punishment from a higher authority.
Whereas above his head, he has got only almighty God. Whereas the text of the constitution stipulates that the uh council is not merely uh consultative, it's also deliberative. The council has also deliberative powers. That is the power of the master can be limited in case he makes a big mistake by his own counselor. And that's the point of the debate.
Now, if I have an order of knights where the the general can do whatever he likes and is above all laws, I don't want knights in Asia. I don't want them. I I I pull out. I am not the general chap chaplain anymore. I tell father to stop supporting the knights and all the other priests and the bishop likewise. I don't want to see those flags and those nights a year around because this is exactly what happened to us within the SSPX. I was a priest of the SSPX. Bishop Flet got too much power and because he had all power, it changes the he changes the policy of the SSPX. It changes the engagement they took never to have a deal with Rome unless Rome converts, comes back to tradition.
That was a deal. That was the basic agreement that Archbishop told them. You wait for the conversion of Rome. You and in 2006 there was a general chapter. No practical deal with Rome unless Rome converts. And because Bishop Fle had all powers, he was not only a bishop, but he he was superior general. He had all powers. he was able to turn around the SSPX and sink it with his uh Titanic date, April 15th. And he and he forced it upon us and he threw us out of the order. I was thrown out of the SSPX because I said this is wrong. This is not the deal. We have to wait until Leo or Francis is until they convert. It's not possible. Otherwise, they're going to kill us. They are heretics.
And so we don't want if you make a mistake. I you know I was wrong. I pray that Bishop will be elected. That was a mistake for me once. Shame on on you. For me twice, shame on me. Why should I repeat the same mistake with the knights of our lady? So I I I don't want and my conference don't want we don't want a general master with unlimited power. Not possible. his power must have checks and balances. That's why that was a system in in ancient times. In ancient times, King Philip the second of Spain had to go to the parliament of Spain, the Cortez, and he had to beg the assembly there. He had to beg them to please give me some money so I can have a crusade. I can do this or that because his power was limited. Even though he was a very powerful king, Philip the second. So in any system you have checks and balances it's natural. It's not the Americans who invented it with their constitution. I mean bless them if they have but it's it's normal any we are not perfect and we cannot be wrong and so we need to be checked and that's the number one reason I disagree with sir. That's the number one reason I got no personal hard feelings with him. No. So that's that's number one.
Reason 2: The Rule of Law
Second second big reason is the rule of law. We want a rule of law. So you throw up he threw out within a month. Then we all ask what's the matter? I mean what has he done? And the only reply he's a traitor. He's a pleasurer. He is a a film. fairy, you know, perjury. So off with his head, Queen of Hearts, Alice in the Wonderland.
So we say, what has he done? We need to know. And how do we know in a human society? Well, especially for an important member, other members to be expelled. Yes, but even there you have to be just, you got to give a reason, must be motivated. But for him we were asking for a trial. Let Jeier stand in trial. Let he has the right to defend himself before he's thrown out and punished and humiliated in such a way with such words. He has a right to defend himself which we call it uh the rule of law. It's natural. This is what happened in civil societies. Even your kangaroo courts, your rotten judges, they have to give you a rotten justice here in this country. It's all paid for. I mean, it's all rotten, but at least they got to save the appearance. And so I I was asking, let him defend himself before you and whoever judges your point and let let him have a and said there must be no punishment.
You must suspend the punishment and there must be a mediation and that's that's the job of Sergio Zapatio in a in a civil life. In a civil life, he's himself a mediator between the contending parties. He should have understood that we can't have an organization of men without rule of law. It's not possible. It's not going to fly. The dog don't hunt. There must be rules and regulations and and and a basic justice especially given the services of Jew throughout his life.
Reason 3: Lack of Vetting
I mean he's he's not perfect even himself admits and he admits he pleads guilty on the fact that Serge Zatio was not properly vetted the he's a recent convert and is he was not properly vetted before he was put into power and so we don't know uh he married late he was baptized late and we don't know if he has Catholic life in his family we don't we didn't check his personal details as should be done before we entrust the direction of the order to him and on this Jean says I am I goofed up I was wrong I I went too prec precipitously I was wrong to to uh to condemn those who went against my judgment judgment was wrong was too precipitous and so because he was not properly vetted then we are facing the uh the behavior that we that we face right now. That's one thing about S.
Reason 4: Hard-Right Movement Concerns
The second thing is that he uh he wants to to make the the knights something different. He wants he's steering the knights towards becoming a hardright movement. A hard right movement. This is not our object. Our goal is not to fight against the police or to fight against the riot police. Uh and our goal is not to do street fightings to do the things of their heart right. Our goal is to bring our layman into the leadership that they should have. And to be a leader, it means that you you fulfill your assignments of studies. That's the number one duty of a man.
If you if you are a man, you are the head of the family, you have civil responsibilities. And to exercise those responsibilities, you must know what is the social doctrine of Christ. What is the position of the church on social issues? What are the uh famous texts of the popes and so on and so forth? How do you establish the kingship of um of Christ? And um we don't see that all that much. It worries us. It worries me. I am I'm not interested to give my help to a hard right movement. I I'm not fighting within the system. I'm not jumping in the lake of the crocodiles to fight with the crocodiles. This is not my fight. My fight is to train our layman as to the social teaching of Christ. Then they will have to act on this. Yes, it's up to them. It's their duty of state but the my first responsibility the first responsibility of the order is to ensure that the members fulfill their duty of state as Catholic men as Catholic citizens as head of families by following the assignments that are given to them by their hierarchy and by by humbly accepting correction if they don't follow their duties as knights and it's a good frame I'm afraid I don't see that.
Reason 5: Conduct and Chivalry
And then fifth reason, it seems that Serge is fighting dirty. He's fighting dirty. So the PR chapter is a perfect illustration of that. The PR chapter of the knights was not on our side. It was not on the side of but because they fight dirty. Then they switched and then they they joined the uh the side of because there was an intrusion in the privacy of Jean which is not a way to fight. Thou shall not lie. They shall be honest of faith the fruit of faith we just talked about.
Likewise there was an American man I heard about it recently. Then he consulted the the difference with Jeia because he saw there is a two masters on the two sides and then he saw that Serge is spending his time assaulting the side of Jew whereas we we carry on we it's the first time I give a talk on SE if you want to know first time so we we probably I told we should have a little corner on our website about surf but nothing more we are not worried about him god bless him you is we don't question the validity of his election and so on and so forth. But this this behavior is is not the way we should fight.
And then even against the Filipinos, he he used insults. He made cartoons comparing you to monkeys. That's not a way to fight. Is that chivalry? In chivalry, we respect our enemies. Even those whom we fight, we respect, you know, we respect all the khif of Islam and and those fantastic soldiers. We give them honor. We we fight honorably. They are wrong. They perhap they perhaps even mean well. And then we don't we need to give them a clean fight because we are Christians. We follow the example of St. Louis. He told St. Louis, now you are free. you could not pay your ransom. No, San Louis says no. I gave my word to the to the khalif of Cairo. I gave my work. So everything needs to be paid. So we have to fight clean. Now it's a bad sign on on their part. Let them fight us if they wish. Criticize us. We're not perfect. They're certainly going to find something imperfect in us. But they need to fight us clean and keep charity.
Fruits and Final Summary
I wish them the best. I don't understand why despite all the support that they have in France, they are not growing. They they're not recruiting very well. Even though they have the support of the Dominicans and media and they got plenty of got plenty of channels by which they can grow. I'm I'm surprised they don't have much results whereas um uh thankfully the order is growing on the side of of Jeier and then Jeier is not the spear of the order anymore. He stepped down. He's not in charge anymore. He he really wanted to step down and he's not he's not controlling the the order anymore. He's one of the venerable knights. Yes. But he's not holding a position of power. It's a fact. So he was also true to his word in that respect. And that's why those some others are joining back the the order as well.
By their fruits uh you shall know them. So have good fruits. We exalt them. have good fruits of charity with no no disrespect and no lack of charity to Serge and to whoever is following him. But this behavior is wrong. This behavior is docuмented and this behavior is objectively wrong. There is that's not the way we should fight.
So you got five reasons. The constitutional problem which is the greatest problem. I am sure I'm making mistake if I allow this to happen. We want a rule of law. We want basic basic justice. And then we uh we recognize that Serge was not was precipitously elected. He was not properly vetted. We don't know if he leads a life of Catholic prayer of a Catholic family in his personal life. He is not vetted properly. That was a big mistake. And then he wants to he is drawing too near the harrite movements which are which are they are not wise persons. The solution is a kingship of Christ and not the the way some others do and then uh and then the fact must be between these are five reasons.
Closing Remarks
And so this re the so the last reason is less important of course but the first reason is all important I cannot repeat the same mistake not not possible I try to reason search immediately I wrote him two letters when he didn't get the the reply he wanted from me he wanted me to attack he threw me out or he cut all communications with me those letters are there we immediately reacted. We ask him to slow down to stop cutting heads because many others were immediately expelled. Good members who had years of fidelity were nights way before Serge even converted to the Catholic Church. We asked him to slow down to be reasonable and to listen and to give and to take some time and he refused. And now all these all these moments are well docuмented. Those docuмents are accessible and we didn't hide anything in that respect.
I consulted Bishop Williamson. I consulted other priests and then within the resistance movement there is unonymity on this. We are all one on this the conference especially the father Salav who is also member of the mar and corpor has the same position and other priests don't care too much about the knights well god bless them but for those who care they come to the same conclusion so this is what I wanted to to do I hope it clarifies some doubts that some of you may have and uh in any case we uh we carry We carry on with the blessing of almighty God. These trials are a blessing. If you take him, take those trial. Those trials were painful painful trials and difficult situation for us. But God bless us for the crosses that he has sent us. And may God us may God make us faithful always to his cross. Faithful to him and to him crucified. Thank you very much.