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Quote from: Meg

This seems to me to be a very thoughtful communication from the Bp. Williamson. I'm not sure I understand it all, though. I'll have to read over a few more times.

He says that...."In the meantime we must take our just punishment: the universal confusion!"

Universal confusion is right!

One would need to read more than just this one EC to understand this one EC.  

H.E. doesn't explain his topic thoroughly here, for this is merely one installment of a very long series.  

For example, in the video linked on the other thread, +W repeats several times over the course of an hour's conference that he is taking a big risk to say something in public, that he had previously only mentioned in private to individuals who had come to him for spiritual guidance.  But now, as the worldwide state of "universal confusion" continues to increase, he apparently has found cause to bring this out into the open for all to see.  

Furthermore, he states that this current trend of aimlessness in the SHEEP, who wander without any shepherd (as prophesied by Our Lord some 2 millennia ago) is nothing other than a JUST PUNISHMENT from GOD for our sins, and modern man has committed many sins, to be sure.  

Furthermore, he responds to a question from one person in the audience, saying that the Collegial Consecration of Russia to the Immaculate Heart of Mary (God's only solution to this current crisis in the Church) by the Pope and all the true Bishops of the world will happen (otherwise, Our Lady would have spoken a lie, which is impossible!), but it will happen in God's time, not our time.  The reason for this is that we are being imposed with this PENANCE of confusion because:

Not Enough Catholics in the World                      
Are Practicing the Five First Saturday Devotions                      
As Our Lady Requested that We All Should Do                      

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H.E. divulges in that conference that it is imperative that we all pray the Daily Rosary, and that we all practice the 5 First Saturday devotions, for the 5 reasons given by Sister Lucia as told to her by Our Lord Jesus Christ Himself.  He says that when God sees ENOUGH CATHOLICS doing this penitential spiritual exercise every month, THEN He will grant sufficient graces to the Pope and the Bishops to make the Collegial Consecration of Russia to the Immaculate Heart of Mary.  THEN Russia will convert and a period of peace will reign in the world.  But FIRST we Catholics must practice the 5 First Saturday devotions.  

It's up to us.

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Thanks for this explanation, which makes sense. I wonder, though, what he means by taking a risk by saying things publically that previously he had said to people privately. What are these things, exactly? Does it have to do with the issue of supplied jurisdiction? I've never seen before that he has addressed this issue of supplied jurisdiction (or authority, rather?) as being relatively weak. Is this something new? It would seem that his disinclination to lead the resistance has something to do with this, but I'm not sure. Maybe he'll explain it further in future EC's.

Thanks, too, about the info regarding the Five First Saturdays. I can now see why it's important to attend them.

Bp. Fellay wants back into the mainstream because he knows the SSPX operation was always a messy business. And Bp. Williamson articulates a similar attitude of mind with not much difference between the two in respect of the current Roman entity. Accordingly, we must forget all their agitations about a new church and a new religion because they lack the courage to fight for the old ones. They take the easy way out by leaving it to providence (akin to washing their hands) and continuing to reap the material benefits of being bishops of a sort within the remnant. They serve us badly.      

In one way or the other, that is objectively true.  For all of the decades of complaints about another religion and a counterfit false church, when the pushing and shoving begin, they always step back and will not stand up for those definitions, or draw the conclusions that they imply.

Quote from: Wessex

Bp. Fellay wants back into the mainstream because he knows the SSPX operation was always a messy business. And Bp. Williamson articulates a similar attitude of mind with not much difference between the two in respect of the current Roman entity. Accordingly, we must forget all their agitations about a new church and a new religion because they lack the courage to fight for the old ones. They take the easy way out by leaving it to providence (akin to washing their hands) and continuing to reap the material benefits of being bishops of a sort within the remnant. They serve us badly.      

In one way or the other, that is objectively true.  For all of the decades of complaints about another religion and a counterfit false church, when the pushing and shoving begin, they always step back and will not stand up for those definitions, or draw the conclusions that they imply.

It was always rhetoric intended to seduce the laity, creating a following and then posturing as one of some importance from the old order. What were these original firebrands hoping to achieve by confronting the new order? An avalanche of support that never came? Dire warnings to clergy who were so anxious to reform? Alternative structures that would reflect the solidity of their convictions?

But two generations on we are now faced with backtracking operations because those who are still alive have mellowed somewhat and are limiting their losses by renegotiating their positions. They hope their followers will be too young to be concerned, enabling them to reinvent themselves. Thus, Bergoglio is pope; there is no other. So, deal with it because we have run out of answers!!!!  What more evidence do we need that the leaders of traditionalism are now featuring redundancy as their main platform. Maybe they want to close an unhappy chapter in the history of Western religion.