Quote from: Matto

I don't think priests say anything about skimpy clothes because that would be considered by many as sɛҳuąƖ harassment.

Skimpy clothes are sɛҳuąƖ harrassment.

Remember when it was a criminal offence. I think it was called "indecent exposure".

Come on, men, traditional Catholics, why don't you do more to counter the terrible porn everywhere? In ads, on the internet, on billboards, etc.? We women hate it too, it is pure exploitation. When women say anything, they are quickly labelled as 'frigid', 'religious', 'old fashioned', 'kill-joys', etc. etc.

Many many women who end up in houses of prostitution are there either because they have been brought in under false pretences and are then threatened and tortured and drugged to ensure their compliance; many others have often been abused as children and lost their self-respect, feeling themselves worthless.

Although today too many young women get into porn or prostitution for financial gain, at the end of the day, if it were not for the demands of men, there would be far, far fewer women in this sad situation.

C'on men, face up to your responsibilities and shout out your opposition to the exploitation of women and girls (and let's not forget boys!). Most men are afraid to speak out in public, to take a public stand and voice their disgust; too few have the guts. Women are the real victims.

Oh, and you men who are tempted by those women or girls at Mass, why don't you sit in the front pews then you would not have that problem, would you !!!! And if you are tempted, you always have the recourse to prayer and you will be able to offer up more!

It IS wrong for women and girls (and men) to dress badly or provocatively, especially at Mass. I agree totally. But, Our Lord came for sinners, and your job, being on a higher plane is to pray for them, and please stop calling them whores. Our Lord did not, did he? He suffered for them too.

Pray harder, that is your job, not to condemn, but to have charity. St Paul said, you can be all things, but if you have not charity, you have nothing!

Dear Exilenomore, it's great to see you posting here again.  Welcome back !

Thank you, and I wish you a blessed Easter. Surrexit Christus!

I have scanned through the comments, and I might have missed some points.  But I will go ahead and offer my thoughts anyhow.  First point, I am pre-Vat II relative to my formative years.  That makes my parents even older.  In my case, there was a definite formation which would preclude "hooker style" clothing in church, even in the NO for me and my family.  Oh, what does "hooker style" mean for a guy?  No idea there.  Anyhow, most of the young girls you see today have post-Vat II parents.  Those parents were lacking the formation which was afforded to me any my siblings.  The parents of the "hooker girls" can say the understand, but they don't.  They have no idea what is going on, and they don't even know how to say no.  Someone else mentioned what I will call girlie boys.  The girlie boys are now the fathers of these wild women (girls).  They do not have the fortitude to go against their wives and tell them no.  I am not only blaming the fathers, the mothers are also to blame.  My version of the events has the mothers living out, through their daughters, the life they wish they had.  These men and women are weak minded, poorly formed and gutless.  I look at my wife.  Her clothing for mass would pass muster for a visit by Apb L (assuming he were still alive) yet she would not be considered frumpy.  She would probably not attract the "hooker guy" but certainly would have to problem attracting a decent guy (I guess that would be me).  So what does this mean?  Personally, I think the "hooker girls" want a quick fix.  They probably have no idea what kind of guy they are attracting (maybe the do, somebody needs to comment here is that is the case, and that would mean I am just plain dumb).  Maybe they just think they need to dress like that because they have to. So, it just goes back to the parents.  Women who want to "live" and men who have had their you know whats cut off.  This message is too long, too many words, too much rambling and I am not going to take the time to edit and re-write.  Have at it.

Jake

For everyone: No tennis shoes, sandals, clog, thongs, denim (even on weekdays). No piercings. Clothing with writing on it (e.g. sweatshirts or jackets) is also forbidden. Anyone in tight, provocative, or otherwise revealing attire will not be permitted to enter the church.

I agree with most of your post but am confused with "sandals"
Carmelite nuns and monks wear sandals,   Christ wore sandals and at Lourdes Our Blessed Mother came barefooted with a golden rose on each foot.
So what is the problem with sandals???

As for high heels I hope everyone is only against the stilletos.  The School Sisters of Notre Dame who taught me all wore shoes with 1-1/2 to 2 inch heels'
albeit they were laced up and very modest.

Quote from: 1531

please stop calling them whores. Our Lord did not, did he?

Please supply a quote where someone called these young girls that go to SSSX chapels, whores.

Comment by NeilObstat "I have one suggestion for those who would be freed from the tyranny of this abiding demonic spirit that makes people interested in women dressing like whores.  The answer is in Our Lady.  By praying for her intercession we may be freed from the bondage of the evil spirit.  How do you pray to her for this?  "

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The young adult can be easily influenced.  The parents and Priest may instill the right values but each of us is born with original sin and will be tempted.  The young adult is particularly susceptible to the attacks of the devil in this world of ours today completely devoid of any moral standing.

Everywhere I look ... billboards, advertising, internet ... there is disinformation on how to look 'attractive'.  The word is now 'sexy' ... the girl who does not have sex appeal is not sexy.  Teaching girls the difference between attractive and sexy is an almost impossible task ... the two are as far apart as chalk and cheese.  We all have different weaknesses, some girls are more easily led astray than others by these temptations.

At every turn they are assaulted by the devils temptations that they might look 'boring', or 'plain', or 'old fashioned' = Attractive.  How then to teach girls that Attractive is good, wholesome, womanly, appealing to a 'good' man?

The advertising for women's underwear is disgusting and I shudder every time I see the ads!

Why is it getting worse?  The same reason the world around us is getting worse.  The attacks of the devil.  But all hope is not lost.  They come to Mass.  You know yourself that in praying you come closer to God.  So don't run them out ... pray!

An earlier comment: "You can lead a horse to water ..." has no parallel.  A horse is an animal.

Our recourse is to prayer...  The girl has a soul to save ... and you can help her with your prayers.  Rather than endless words, pray for them, that their eyes may be opened to the 'real' world of honesty, humility and modesty, and the sanctity of womanhood, brought to the highest level in Our Lady as the Mother of God.

Perhaps you feel Priests do not do enough ... but then again do you know if they have intervened?  Do you know if they do extra penances?  Do you know if they suffer as you do?

Quote from: bowler

I am only talking about this form of high heels and similar shoes. And tight dresses to around the upper knee or just below, and tight knit tops with a 1" "sleeve" upper. That is what they all were wearing, and what other trad girls seem to go for now.

That's exactly right. Precisely what is going on. It started about two years ago in excess, but this past fall/winter more girls joined the 'clique'. Between 10-12 in number at my chapel. And it's a small chapel.

Sounds like an epidemic.