Author Topic: xSPX buying CFN (Read 4297 times)

Incredulous · « **on:** February 01, 2016, 12:47:01 AM »

Can anyone confirm if the xSPX is taking control of Catholic Family News?

At the time of Father Gruner's death it was revealed that Father Gruner owned CFN.
Father Gruner's operations include one of the largest printing companies in Canada.

For the past six years, CFN has coddled the the xSPX leadership, refusing even to acknowledge the "Resistance" split or the formal "re-branding" of the order.

Vennari and Ferrara reporting to Fr. Wegner?

If the xSPX is takes over CFN , their media reach will make them king of "neo-trad-dom".

Centroamerica · « **Reply #1 on:** February 01, 2016, 04:00:01 AM »

"It was revealed at his death"...

Um, I've known for more than a decade that Fr. Gruner was the owner of CFN. I thought it was common knowledge.

Incredulous · « **Reply #2 on:** February 01, 2016, 04:33:36 AM »

Quote from: Centroamerica

"It was revealed at his death"...

Um, I've known for more than a decade that Fr. Gruner was the owner of CFN. I thought it was common knowledge.

Hmm... I've read the newspaper for 18 years and never knew it?

Where was it ever cited in the CFN publication or from the Fatima Network?

I don't know any reference to it?

How did you learn about it?

Maria Auxiliadora · « **Reply #3 on:** February 01, 2016, 05:00:09 AM »

For all practical purposes, + Fellay already owns it. If it was "revealed" at the funeral that Fr. Gruner owns it, I take it as an affirmation that he still did at the time of his funeral. The purchase was revealed at the time it happened 20+ years ago.

John Venari and + Fellay have a friendship of utility, +Fellay needs a voice and John needs the suscriptions. The SSPX has bullied and boycotted CFN in the past and + Fellay can do it again. I cannot see JV endorsing a "reintegrated" SSPX. I still have hope from knowing John for more than 20 years. Time will tell. In the meantime time, from CFN no one would know about the Consecration of bishop Faure. Not even ex SSPX priests I know. What a great dissapointment that is! and it speaks volumes about the SSPX influence on J.V. Regardless of SSPX, such Consecration is major news in Catholic tradition.

Wessex · « **Reply #4 on:** February 01, 2016, 05:07:13 AM »

When money, business and buying influence come through the door, convictions, opinions and beliefs go flying out of the window.

Fr. Gruner spread his field of operation rather thinly. He maintained a hierarchy of contacts with the Vatican first, Menzingen second and then Bp. Williamson who was keen to pass such a 'responsibility' on. Thus, the heirs to the estate of Fr. Gruner would hesitate to know whom to favour. I guess Bp. Fellay won out because he kept a close watch on his coffin! And, of course, this bishop made much use of the Fatima phenomenon!

Neil Obstat · « **Reply #5 on:** February 01, 2016, 05:36:07 AM »

Quote from: Incredulous

Quote from: Centroamerica

"It was revealed at his death"...

Um, I've known for more than a decade that Fr. Gruner was the owner of CFN. I thought it was common knowledge.

Hmm... I've read the newspaper for 18 years and never knew it?

Where was it ever cited in the CFN publication or from the Fatima Network?

I don't know any reference to it?

How did you learn about it?

I've been hearing this rumor of Fr. Gruner's ownership of CFN for about 20 years. It always seemed to be a curious thing to hear because people have said it with a firm confidence that it is a fact. Strange.

It's always been via word of mouth. No one has been able to cite any publication whenever I have asked. I appreciate your asking this question of Centroamerica, too, because it would be nice to know where or how he picked up the notion.

Just so you know: it's nice to see your posts again, Incred....... welcome back!!

.

Maria Auxiliadora · « **Reply #6 on:** February 01, 2016, 06:36:36 AM »

Quote from: Neil Obstat

Quote from: Incredulous
Quote from: Centroamerica

"It was revealed at his death"...

Um, I've known for more than a decade that Fr. Gruner was the owner of CFN. I thought it was common knowledge.

Hmm... I've read the newspaper for 18 years and never knew it?

Where was it ever cited in the CFN publication or from the Fatima Network?

I don't know any reference to it?

How did you learn about it?

I've been hearing this rumor of Fr. Gruner's ownership of CFN for about 20 years. It always seemed to be a curious thing to hear because people have said it with a firm confidence that it is a fact. Strange.

It's always been via word of mouth. No one has been able to cite any publication whenever I have asked. I appreciate your asking this question of Centroamerica, too, because it would be nice to know where or how he picked up the notion.

Just so you know: it's nice to see your posts again, Incred....... welcome back!!

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It was on CFN at the time of the purchase. The paper was owned by a Mr. Solferino (?) I cannot remember the details but my family had a susbscription previously to the transfer. I also remember when father Gruner recruited JV as publisher. Father Gruner knew JV from MHF Monastery in Berlin NJ and came to give conferences for a couple of years about six months apart. It was a weekend of reparation and always on a First Friday though the Sunday. Michael Dimond was only a teenager at the time the conferences began. Solange Hertz, Gerry Matatics, Gerry Potter, Dr. White and many others were speakers there. Very successful and most enlightening. It ended after the death of their superior, Br. Joseph Natale when Michael Dimond tried to get control. The rest is history.

Centroamerica · « **Reply #7 on:** February 01, 2016, 08:37:48 AM »

It must have been a SSPX priest that told me. Like Neil said, it was word of mouth. I can't cite any certain publication, but it was on the wikipedia article that John Vennari left the MHFM to go work for Fr. Gruner.

"By mid-1980s, there were ten monks in it, but by 1994 the number declined to three. Shortly after a conference in 1994, John Vennari left to work for Fr. Nicholas Gruner."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Most_Holy_Family_Monastery

Ekim · « **Reply #8 on:** February 01, 2016, 09:02:43 AM »

Actually, Fr. Grunner gave conferences at MHF Monastery long before Ricky Diamond (his real name), ever came into the picture. JV had no problems telling everyone when he left the monastery that he was going to work for Fr. Grunner. Just a short time later those who received The Fatima Crusader started getting introductory issues of CFN w/ JV being listed as editor. Don't remember if it was ever actually publicized that Fr. Grunner owned CFN, but it was logically deducted that JV was working for Fr. Grunner, hence, his newspaper must be part of the Fatima Crusader enterprise. JV ran the print house at MHF for years. It seemed like a good fit that he should also run the printing of a newspaper.

Maria Auxiliadora · « **Reply #9 on:** February 01, 2016, 09:33:43 AM »

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Actually, Fr. Grunner gave conferences at MHF Monastery long before Ricky Diamond (his real name), ever came into the picture. JV had no problems telling everyone when he left the monastery that he was going to work for Fr. Grunner. Just a short time later those who received The Fatima Crusader started getting introductory issues of CFN w/ JV being listed as editor. Don't remember if it was ever actually publicized that Fr. Grunner owned CFN, but it was logically deducted that JV was working for Fr. Grunner, hence, his newspaper must be part of the Fatima Crusader enterprise. JV ran the print house at MHF for years. It seemed like a good fit that he should also run the printing of a newspaper.

My family attended all the conferences and I may be wrong but I think Michael Dimond was there already for the first though he was a young boy, no more than 17 yrs. Just starting. JV's publication"Crying in the Wilderness" was excellent read.

AJNC · « **Reply #10 on:** February 01, 2016, 09:37:25 AM »

Quote from: Centroamerica

It must have been a SSPX priest that told me. Like Neil said, it was word of mouth. I can't cite any certain publication, but it was on the wikipedia article that John Vennari left the MHFM to go work for Fr. Gruner.

"By mid-1980s, there were ten monks in it, but by 1994 the number declined to three. Shortly after a conference in 1994, John Vennari left to work for Fr. Nicholas Gruner."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Most_Holy_Family_Monastery

Did Bishop Fellay dispense Vennari from his vows as a monk or was it the Conciliar Church?. I think he's now a married man.

Maria Auxiliadora · « **Reply #11 on:** February 01, 2016, 10:16:52 AM »

Quote from: AJNC

Quote from: Centroamerica

It must have been a SSPX priest that told me. Like Neil said, it was word of mouth. I can't cite any certain publication, but it was on the wikipedia article that John Vennari left the MHFM to go work for Fr. Gruner.

"By mid-1980s, there were ten monks in it, but by 1994 the number declined to three. Shortly after a conference in 1994, John Vennari left to work for Fr. Nicholas Gruner."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Most_Holy_Family_Monastery

Did Bishop Fellay dispense Vennari from his vows as a monk or was it the Conciliar Church?. I think he's now a married man.

I know that Fr. Cyprian (NM) came to bury Br. Joseph Natale and offered MHFM to join them but Michael Dimond had his own agenda. John left at that time. It is possible that Fr. Cyprian may have been behind the dispensation. I don't know, only John can answer. If you really want to know, ask him directly.

klasG4e · « **Reply #12 on:** February 05, 2016, 11:40:08 AM »

I worked full time for Fr. Gruner in the year 2000. When I did the CFN operated out of a house that was only about 100 yards away from Fr. Gruner's personal residence in Fort Erie, Ontario, Canada. Coralie Graham, the editor of the Fatima Crusader and other staff of the Fatima Crusader worked out of a building which also housed a chapel and small studio. That building was only about 30 yards from Fr. Gruner's residence. The house of Fr. Gruner's residence contained his own private chapel.

In addition to the three aforementioned buildings, there was also a large printing/warehouse building which was about three or so miles away from Fr. Gruner's resience. There was also a Catholic bookstore staffed by Fr. Gruner's organization both in Fort Erie as well as one in kenmore, NY which is a suburb of Buffalo. I worked out of the Kenmore location.

On a side note I would like to mention that both the CFN and The Remnant refused to carry advertising for Hugh Akins' extremely good book ѕуηαgσgυє Rising which can be found on both of Mr. Akins' websites: Cathoic Action Resource Center and ѕуηαgσgυє Rising It seems as though much of the TradCat press will safely go on about Muslims ad infinitum, but won't dare touch the Tribe or Israel with a ten foot pole. (As far as I know, the Fatima Crusader, the CFN, and The Remnant have never once even hinted of the Israeli connection to 9-11. For the major Israeli connection to 9-11 see, for example Solving 9-11: The Deception that Changed the World ) Yup, that's our "dependable" TradCat press.

confederate catholic · « **Reply #13 on:** February 05, 2016, 01:44:00 PM »

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I know that Fr. Cyprian (NM) came to bury Br. Joseph Natale and offered MHFM to join them but Michael Dimond had his own agenda. John left at that time. It is possible that Fr. Cyprian may have been behind the dispensation. I don't know, only John can answer. If you really want to know, ask him directly.

I was with Fr Cyprian at the time and can tell you that only Br. Joseph had vows. Fr Cyprian offered to take the remaining novices in at the time when he offered the funeral mass but the three remaining refused, thus we have monks without vows or superior also known as MHFM

Matto · « **Reply #14 on:** February 05, 2016, 01:47:57 PM »

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Yup, that's our "dependable" TradCat press.

Fear of being called anti-semitic runs strong.