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Traditional Catholic Faith => SSPX Resistance News => Topic started by: Viva Cristo Rey on July 31, 2013, 01:32:37 PM

Title: WYD
Post by: Viva Cristo Rey on July 31, 2013, 01:32:37 PM
Did any groups from sspx attend World Youth Day.
Title: WYD
Post by: Matto on July 31, 2013, 01:41:13 PM
I sure as hell hope not. :really-mad2:
Title: WYD
Post by: stgobnait on July 31, 2013, 01:44:15 PM
Unless they planned to convert WYD 'from the inside '... :thinking:
Title: WYD
Post by: Kazimierz on July 31, 2013, 03:02:50 PM
perhaps to see what they can expect when/if they officially cozy up to Rome. :facepalm:
Title: WYD
Post by: St Gertrude on July 31, 2013, 05:16:03 PM
I cannot for the life of me imagine anyone associated with the SSPX attending WYD.
Title: WYD
Post by: Frances on July 31, 2013, 08:30:51 PM
 :dancing-banana:
I had another look at the dancing bishops.  I noticed no familiar faces from the SSPX.  Let's be thankful!  If anyone from SSPX went, he/she wouldn't admit it--not yet.  If the new seminary offers a class in Liturgical Dance, run!
 :scared2:
Title: WYD
Post by: Viva Cristo Rey on July 31, 2013, 10:23:20 PM
Quote from: Frances
:dancing-banana:
I had another look at the dancing bishops.  I noticed no familiar faces from the SSPX.  Let's be thankful!  If anyone from SSPX went, he/she wouldn't admit it--not yet.  If the new seminary offers a class in Liturgical Dance, run!
 :scared2:



Lol  :laugh1:
Title: WYD
Post by: poche on August 01, 2013, 12:39:54 AM
That wasn't a liturgical event that they were dancing at.
Title: WYD
Post by: poche on August 01, 2013, 12:40:59 AM
By the way I saw a youtube promotion for it at jeunecatholiquesdetradition.
Title: WYD
Post by: Napoli on August 01, 2013, 01:07:59 AM
Regardless, Bishops should behave accordingly, whether at a liturgical event or not. Which leads to the conclusion:  Are they Bishops?

 :confused1: :confused1: :confused1:
Title: WYD
Post by: Neil Obstat on August 01, 2013, 05:19:39 AM
Quote from: Napoli

Regardless, Bishops should behave accordingly, whether at a liturgical event or not.

Which leads to the conclusion:  Are they Bishops?




FYI:  That's not a conclusion, Napoli, that's a question.  

Title: WYD
Post by: Neil Obstat on August 01, 2013, 05:37:02 AM
Quote from: Kazimierz
perhaps to see what they can expect when/if they officially cozy up to Rome. :facepalm:



I'm a little sad to see you've given up on the lyric hobby, Kazimierz.

It was fun while it lasted
And while Lenin read a book on Marx
A quartet practiced in the park
And we sang dirges in the dark
The day the music died
We were singin' bye-bye, miss American pie,
Drove my Chevy to the levee but the levee was dry...

Title: WYD
Post by: Neil Obstat on August 01, 2013, 05:39:30 AM
Quote from: Viva Cristo Rey
Did any groups from sspx attend World Youth Day?


Quote from: Matto
I sure as hell hope not. :really-mad2:


Quote from: stgobnait
Unless they planned to convert WYD 'from the inside '... :thinking:


You guys are a kick.  Thanks!   :roll-laugh1:

Title: WYD
Post by: Infiguris on August 01, 2013, 11:00:00 AM
 :roll-laugh1: :roll-laugh2: :laugh2:
Title: WYD
Post by: Kazimierz on August 01, 2013, 12:09:01 PM
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I'm a little sad to see you've given up on the lyric hobby, Kazimierz.


Well, not really. :smile: Fresh stuff at the Fr Girouard postings.

Indeed, one can say, or sing..

"You aint seen n-n-n-nothing yet!"

"Can you hear me, is there anything can save the SSPX?
The masses prayed, our nerves are all frayed over the SSPX.
But if its gone, we will try and we"ll carry on.
We'll resist, and slay the conciliar dragon."
Title: WYD
Post by: Incredulous on August 01, 2013, 12:37:13 PM
To get back on the topic,
Does anyone know if Bp. Fellay sent ExSPX representative(s) to WYD ?

The purpose would be for diplomatic dialogue, of course.

If that occurred, it would be a bombshell in the making.
Title: WYD
Post by: Neil Obstat on August 01, 2013, 10:51:30 PM
Quote from: Incredulous
To get back on the topic,
Does anyone know if Bp. Fellay sent ExSPX representative(s) to WYD ?

The purpose would be for diplomatic dialogue, of course.

If that occurred, it would be a bombshell in the making.



For +F to send a delegation - or even ONE - priest to WYD,
would be equivalent to the UN sending a panel - or a delegate -
to the ZOO to make friends with the monkeys.  


I'd be surprised if he did, because he has far too many
problems already.  What would he be trying to accomplish?  
Give the Resistance MORE fodder for our cannons?   We've
got plenty of fodder already, and we've got lots of gunpowder.  
We just need a new shipment of cannons!  




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(an episcopal consecration or two would be real nice, too!)  


Title: WYD
Post by: Incredulous on August 02, 2013, 12:13:37 AM
Well, sending an SSPX delegate to WYD is not so far fetched is it?

Hasn't Bp. Fellay & company been telling us they were going to convert the Conciliar church from within ?

Why not a little missionary work?
Send in Fr. Themann to evangelize the novus ordo rockers ?

He's young, friendly and has a theological degree.

Besides, the kids might dig his spin on Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ.

(http://justina.media.gloria.tv/b/1e/media-458915-2.jpg)
Title: WYD
Post by: Telesphorus on August 02, 2013, 12:25:59 AM
Quote from: Incredulous
(http://justina.media.gloria.tv/b/1e/media-458915-2.jpg)


Those who join a pagan organization submitting to blood-curdling oaths to cover up the misdeeds of others are objectively sinning.

A knowledgeable priest wouldn't pretend it's something men get caught up in without having any awareness of it being wrong.  

Title: WYD
Post by: Eudes on August 02, 2013, 01:24:57 AM
Quote from: Incredulous
Well, sending an SSPX delegate to WYD is not so far fetched is it?

Hasn't Bp. Fellay & company been telling us they were going to convert the Conciliar church from within ?

Why not a little missionary work?
Send in Fr. Themann to evangelize the novus ordo rockers ?

He's young, friendly and has a theological degree.

Besides, the kids might dig his spin on Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ.

(http://justina.media.gloria.tv/b/1e/media-458915-2.jpg)


Wow, how times have changed. Leo XIII or Pius X would have had him cleaning trash cans in the Vatican if that statement could be verified.
I heard  during Pius X's reign there was a seminary director in NY state who invited a Protestant minister in to talk to the students. When Pius X's Vatican got confirmation he was directly dismissed without even telling the local Bishop.

Now we get college Jesuits encouraging reversions to Islam and Catholic Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ advocates  :facepalm:
Title: WYD
Post by: Neil Obstat on August 02, 2013, 06:49:57 AM
Quote from: Telesphorus
Quote from: Incredulous

Well, sending an SSPX delegate to WYD is not so far fetched is it?

Hasn't Bp. Fellay & company been telling us they were going to convert the Conciliar church from within ?

Why not a little missionary work?



I agree, if they were consistent, they would send a delegate to WYD.  

But they're not consistent.  The Menzingen-denizens only pursue their
OWN agenda, on THEIR terms, and common sense is not a factor.  In
fact, they RELY on their followers to have thrown common sense out
the window.  


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Send in Fr. Themann to evangelize the novus ordo rockers ?

He's young, friendly and has a theological degree.

Besides, the kids might dig his spin on Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ. [/color]

(http://justina.media.gloria.tv/b/1e/media-458915-2.jpg)


Those who join a pagan organization submitting to blood-curdling oaths to cover up the misdeeds of others are objectively sinning.

A knowledgeable priest wouldn't pretend it's something men get caught up in without having any awareness of it being wrong.  




What about Fr. Themann -- what about the sin of lying about the
culpability of Freemasons?  He would do himself a favor if he were
to go to confession to a Resistance priest!!


This is no different from the problem the Jesuits had after Vat.II
-- I knew one who liked to tell penitents in the confessional that
they had not committed any sins, and that they were wasting his
time by coming in there.  It was as if his objective was to make
the lines for the confessional shorter and shorter -- and if so,
then he was "successful" because under his "care" the lines
disappeared over a period of two or three years around 1997-99.  
He went by "Father Bill" but his real name was Rev. Andrew Diviney,
S.J. (I found a listing here (http://www.interment.net/data/ireland/dublin/glasnevin/d/glasn_d02.htm) of "Diviney, Rev. Andrew (Billy) S.J,
d. 26 May 2006, late Milltown Park 6" - but I'm not sure if that's
the same priest.)


He passed away a few years ago.  May God have mercy on his soul.


Title: WYD
Post by: Kazimierz on August 02, 2013, 12:17:46 PM
Neil Obstat scrivened

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But they're not consistent.  The Menzingen-denizens only pursue their
OWN agenda, on THEIR terms, and common sense is not a factor.  In
fact, they RELY on their followers to have thrown common sense out
the window.


I do ask myself, are those who are still following +BF the TotallyAwesome really all that blind and stupid as to at least not give the situation at hand more than a cursory glance? I found with my experiences in SSPX circles there to be more than a hint of anti-intellectualism amongst the laity. Faith AND Reason must go together. Fideism is alive and well alas.

If indeed common sense has been defenestrated (love that word), then the sheep who follow, well, they might as well jump. Just go ahead and jump. :smirk:

(Did you get the Split Enz reference to leaky boats Neil of the Obstat? :wink:)
Title: WYD
Post by: Infiguris on August 14, 2013, 07:41:01 AM
Quote from: Kazimierz
Neil Obstat scrivened

 I found with my experiences in SSPX circles there to be more than a hint of anti-intellectualism amongst the laity. Faith AND Reason must go together. Fideism is alive and well alas.


Yes it is true. Especially the people of Europe feel it.
Title: WYD
Post by: Ladislaus on August 14, 2013, 08:29:10 AM
Quote from: Napoli
Regardless, Bishops should behave accordingly, whether at a liturgical event or not. Which leads to the conclusion:  Are they Bishops?

 :confused1: :confused1: :confused1:


Yet another angle on sedevacantism  :laugh2:
Title: WYD
Post by: Ladislaus on August 14, 2013, 08:30:27 AM
Quote from: Incredulous
(http://justina.media.gloria.tv/b/1e/media-458915-2.jpg)


Takes one to know one?

or was that

Ask one to be one?
Title: WYD
Post by: Ladislaus on August 14, 2013, 08:32:09 AM
Father Themann's perspective undoubtedly comes from the subjectivist school, the Dignitatis Humanae school, along the lines that sin is just a purely subjective thing, which is why he says "Most" freemasons don't sin ... because they think it's OK.
Title: WYD
Post by: parentsfortruth on August 14, 2013, 09:19:40 AM
Quote from: Ladislaus
Quote from: Incredulous
(http://justina.media.gloria.tv/b/1e/media-458915-2.jpg)


Takes one to know one?

or was that

Ask one to be one?


Here's the video:

[youtube]http://gloria.tv/?mediafile=FK7P4q_YuYU7V0JNa_zTlTbyGYMmsRyuPF20pajcdL0CKqzkWg[/youtube]
Title: WYD
Post by: parentsfortruth on August 15, 2013, 02:32:03 PM
That link I provided seems not to be working now, but all you have to do is move the bar over, and search the word "Themann" in the search box and it'll take you to the link. Just go there and it'll start.
Title: WYD
Post by: Ekim on August 16, 2013, 02:13:39 PM
Recently had a few minutes so I thought I'd look at the SSPX website and DICI.  I saw their article on World Youth Day.  By the looks of it, you'd think it wasn't such a bad event.  They follow Francis and report on what he has said and done.  Sadly however, they turned a blind eye to the rampant sacrileges and rampant immodesty (to say the least) in front of the very altar where the "Mass" was to be offered.  This immodesty permeated the event.  (see below)Who are they (SSPX) trying to please with this report?  Where is the OUTRAGE?   SAD...SAD...SAD!

This is not the same SSPX founded by the holy Archbishop!

I believe it was St. Augustine who compared a priest to a barking guard dog.   When the priest / dog stops barking you can be sure the enemy will not be far away.  The SSPX is no longer barking.

In my opinion, better for them to have not reported on the event at all then to pretend as if nothing immoral or sacrileges occurred.
 
VIVA CHRISTO REY!
death rather than compromise!
 
Bl Jose Sanchez Del Rio...Pray for us!

See photos at links below,  

Scroll half way down http://www.novusordowatch.org/wire/index.htm


WARNING some bikini clad "Youts" may be offensive

http://www.traditioninaction.org/RevolutionPhotos/A533-Bikini-2.htm

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From: mstrohecker@hotmail.com
To: mstrohecker@hotmail.com
Subject:
Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2013 12:22:56 -0400


"Sacrilege" is soo yesterday...

"Sacrilege" is soo yesterday...

 
 



 



 



 



 



Title: WYD
Post by: Incredulous on August 16, 2013, 07:16:24 PM
Quote from: Ekim
Recently had a few minutes so I thought I'd look at the SSPX website and DICI.  I saw their article on World Youth Day.  By the looks of it, you'd think it wasn't such a bad event.  They follow Francis and report on what he has said and done.  Sadly however, they turned a blind eye to the rampant sacrileges and rampant immodesty (to say the least) in front of the very altar where the "Mass" was to be offered.  This immodesty permeated the event.  (see below)Who are they (SSPX) trying to please with this report?  Where is the OUTRAGE?   SAD...SAD...SAD!

This is not the same SSPX founded by the holy Archbishop!

I believe it was St. Augustine who compared a priest to a barking guard dog.   When the priest / dog stops barking you can be sure the enemy will not be far away.  The SSPX is no longer barking.

In my opinion, better for them to have not reported on the event at all then to pretend as if nothing immoral or sacrileges occurred.
 
VIVA CHRISTO REY!
death rather than compromise!
 
Bl Jose Sanchez Del Rio...Pray for us!

See photos at links below,  

Scroll half way down http://www.novusordowatch.org/wire/index.htm


WARNING some bikini clad "Youts" may be offensive

http://www.traditioninaction.org/RevolutionPhotos/A533-Bikini-2.htm

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From: mstrohecker@hotmail.com
To: mstrohecker@hotmail.com
Subject:
Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2013 12:22:56 -0400


"Sacrilege" is soo yesterday...

"Sacrilege" is soo yesterday...


Excellent observations and post Ekim!