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WWFCD - What would Fr. Carl Do?
« on: February 18, 2017, 09:58:10 AM »
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  • Rev. Fr. Carl Pulvermacher O.F.M. Cap.
    (1926-2006)
    From the Holy Family Chapel bulletin, Melbourne, Florida

    Rev. Fr. Carl Pulvermacher   
     

    Independent traditional Capuchin priest, Fr. Carl Pulvermacher, passed into eternity on May 29, the feast of St. Mary Magdalen dei Pazzi in Dickinson, Texas. He'd been a priest for 54 years, the last 30 with the SSPX.

    Born to a Catholic family of nine children in Wisconsin, he followed two of his older brothers into the Capuchin order in 1944. He attended Saint Anthony's Seminary of the Capuchin Province of Saint Joseph to which the Venerable Father Solanus Casey also belonged and whom Father Carl had the opportunity to meet during the 1940's. He was ordained to the priesthood in 1952. In 1965, Father Carl was assigned to the mission founded by Jesuits in the late 1880's at the Crow Indian Reservation in Montana. He worked with the Crow and Northern Cheyenne Indians in the towns of Ashland and Saint Xavier.

    When the Novus Ordo Missae was implemented, Father Carl said it, albeit begrudgingly, as he could not understand why the Mass had to be changed. Nevertheless, he continued to privately offer the Mass of his Ordination. Then his superiors told him that either he "will be fired or you will resign" as he was not making the changes in the new liturgy quickly enough. So in 1970 he was sent back to Saint Anthony¹s Seminary. He remained there until October of 1972 when he was transferred to Australia. During his tour of duty down-under, Father made the acquaintance of some traditional Catholics who wanted the Tridentine Mass and he obliged them at clandestine home Masses. While in Australia, Father was able to make the acquaintance of Archbishop Lefebvre in Sydney in 1974. In December of 1975, Father Carl was summoned by the convened forces of Father Provincial (similar to the District Superior), Father Guardian (of the Monastery), as well as the pastor of the parish which he was servicing! At this Modernist Inquisition, Father Carl was served an ultimatum: stop saying the Tridentine Mass or leave. Father chose to leave and kept saying the Tridentine Mass. It was not a light decision to make considering after over 30 years on the order! But leave he did in January of 1976, and while he was at it, he made a trip around the world on the way to his new destination. From Australia he went to Singapore, Bombay, Athens, Assisi, Rome, Ecône (where he met the Archbishop again), Lyons, Lourdes, Ars, Paris, London, New York City, and then Wisconsin to visit his parents. There he met the Archbishop a third time, as well as Fr. Hector Bolduc and it was then that he decided to assist Fr. Bolduc with the work of the United States District. At that time, from Our Lady Queen of Angels in Dickinson, Texas, the entire United State was serviced mainly by Fathers Bolduc and Carl. They often spent two weeks on the road servicing the various chapels before returning home. Father said that it could be disheartening during those years, since every time a new priest was ordained, another priest from the District would leave or defect, thereby neutralizing the hopeful additional number of priests to assist with the work, but "you had to keep plugging away." Among his traditional priest friends, Father counted Malachi Martin who would use his profile in the novel, Windswept House, to help build the fictitious character, Father Guttmacher.

    Late in 1977, Father Carl was instrumental in founding The Angelus magazine, the prelude to the Angelus Press. The first issue was published in January 1978. Father served as the managing editor from 1977 until 1990, when the Angelus Press was moved to Kansas City, MO. However, his official title was rather deceiving as he also took care of the typesetting, printing, collating and mailing of The Angelus as well as the various other books that the infant Angelus Press "made from scratch." In 1991, SSPX District Superior Father Peter Scott asked him to take over the Society's work in Florida. While Father Carl was quite happy in Dickinson, he nevertheless went to "fill this corner of the United States." He moved to Davie, FL where he not only continued to weather the storm of Modernism but also that of Hurricane Andrew in 1992. Since then, all of the Society's chapels in Florida pray every day after Mass for temperate weather.

    When such a veteran of the holy fight was asked for advice in dealing with the crisis in the Church, Father would reply in his usual simplistic Franciscan manner: "Learn your faith and hold on to it. For priests and brothers: be faithful to your recitation of the Divine Office; where Mass is not available, keep Sunday holy as best as you can; hold on to your Rosary and be faithful to your devotion to Mary."

    Please remember to pray for the repose of the soul of this Holy priest of God.
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    WWFCD - What would Fr. Carl Do?
    « Reply #1 on: February 18, 2017, 10:05:15 AM »
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    At that time, from Our Lady Queen of Angels in Dickinson, Texas, the entire United State was serviced mainly by Fathers Bolduc and Carl. They often spent two weeks on the road servicing the various chapels before returning home. Father said that it could be disheartening during those years, since every time a new priest was ordained, another priest from the District would leave or defect, thereby neutralizing the hopeful additional number of priests to assist with the work, but "you had to keep plugging away." Among his traditional priest friends, Father counted Malachi Martin who would use his profile in the novel, Windswept House, to help build the fictitious character, Father Guttmacher.


    Frs. Bolduc and Carl (Franciscans go by first name, like their founder St. Francis ) were the founders of what later became the SSPX in the USA.
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    WWFCD - What would Fr. Carl Do?
    « Reply #2 on: February 18, 2017, 10:21:06 AM »
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  • I was gifted by God by having had Fr. Carl as my confessor and friend, starting almost within weeks of my return to the Church, when I was like 40. Deo Gratias.

    WWFCD - What would Fr. Carl do regarding sedevacantes?

    The local sedevacantes chapel, serviced by Fr. Jenkins, only had mass every other Sunday, therefore all those sedevacantes went to mass at Fr. Carl's chapel during the other 13 days when they had no mass in their chapel. Fr. Jenkin's went to confession with Fr. Carl, albeit hidden from the general public.

    Everyone respected each other and I never saw any conflicts between all the parishioners. Fr. Carl set the tone, he loved and respected all of us and we loved and respected him and each other for his sake. To this day I have absolutely nothing against sedevacantes and I don't see why SSPXers are so scared of being labeled a sede. I find it childish.
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    _The Angelus_/Re: WWFCD - What would Fr. Carl Do?
    « Reply #3 on: January 18, 2018, 02:04:57 PM »
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  • Rev. Fr. Carl Pulvermacher O.F.M. Cap. (1926-2006)
    From the Holy Family Chapel bulletin, Melbourne, Florida
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    There [while visiting Wisconsin?] he met the Archbishop a third time, as well as Fr. Hector Bolduc and it was then that he decided to assist Fr. Bolduc with the work of the United States District.  At that time, from Our Lady Queen of Angels in Dickinson, Texas, the entire United State[s] was serviced mainly by Fathers Bolduc and Carl.  They often spent two weeks on the road servicing the various chapels before returning home.
    [....]
    Late in 1977, Father Carl was instrumental in founding The Angelus magazine, the prelude to the Angelus Press.  The first issue was published in January 1978.  Father served as the managing editor from 1977 until 1990, when the Angelus Press was moved to Kansas City, MO. However, his official title was rather deceiving as he also took care of the typesetting, printing, collating and mailing of The Angelus as well as the various other books that the infant Angelus Press "made from scratch."  In 1991, SSPX District Superior Father Peter Scott asked him to take over the Society's work in Florida.

    Thus it seems reasonable to infer that Fr. Carl Pulvermacher produced and mailed The Angelus in his "spare time" between travel to SSPX chapels around the U.S.A.

    Having had responsibility to produce & mail a local outdoors-organization newsletter in my "spare time"--as a volunteer--for a few years, I know well that doing it well is nearly a 2nd full-time job.  Only rarely did other members submit material, so I--officially merely its "editor"--also researched & wrote the great majority of its content.  So I'll hazard a guess that Fr. Carl also wrote much of the The Angelus content in those days, especially including the articles or reports that carry no by-line.  And he juggled all those responsibilities--which could overwhelm a young man--from age 51 to 65 (approximately)!

    Traditional Catholics with bibliographic or historiographic tendencies would be, um, blessed if Fr. Carl had put a by-line at least on every feature article that he wrote [×].

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    Note ×: Admittedly an example of the rule "do as I preach, not do as I did".

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    Re: WWFCD - What would Fr. Carl Do?
    « Reply #4 on: January 18, 2018, 05:28:38 PM »
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  • Can anyone cite the quote attributed to Fr. Carl Pulvermacher that when there are no more Roman Catholic priests they will let us have the Latin Mass?  Was it written or spoken, when and where? Thank you for your posts!


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    Re: WWFCD - What would Fr. Carl Do?
    « Reply #5 on: January 18, 2018, 06:51:07 PM »
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  • It was verbal. He said it to me in the late 1990's, and I'm sure to many others till the end of his life.
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    Re: WWFCD - What would Fr. Carl Do?
    « Reply #6 on: January 18, 2018, 10:20:26 PM »
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  • Thank you for your reply!  Did he indicate why he thought so?  We have a positive doubt as to the consecration of bishops to the Novus Ordo rite enabling those bishops to ordain Roman Catholic priests to the Latin Roman Catholic Rite.  Did you ever discuss that as a reason for the lack of Roman Catholic priests?  I appreciate anything you can share.

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    Re: WWFCD - What would Fr. Carl Do?
    « Reply #7 on: January 19, 2018, 02:49:53 AM »
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  • Thank you for your reply!  Did he indicate why he thought so?  We have a positive doubt as to the consecration of bishops to the Novus Ordo rite enabling those bishops to ordain Roman Catholic priests to the Latin Roman Catholic Rite.  Did you ever discuss that as a reason for the lack of Roman Catholic priests?  I appreciate anything you can share.
    He thought so for the reason you stated, he did not believe the new consecration formula for bishops was valid, hence even the priests ordained by the new bishops with the traditional ordination rite are not priests. ALL the ordinations done by the Fraternity of St. Peter and the Institute of Christ the King, were done by new rite bishops. That adds to the doubt. Why not one ordination by an old rite bishop? Moreover, Fr. Carl did not believe the New Rite of Ordination was valid either. Three strikes and you are out. That is why he said that they will aloow the Latin Mass when there are no priests. 

    Fr. Carl was not a intrusive person, he would not push himself on new people.  Slowly over time, once the euphoria of finding tradition and his chapel ended with those that stuck around, the sincere people who were seeking truth, he would be there for them. I never saw him hesitate verbally for one second when asked to do something trivial like blessing a car, even at the most inappropriate times. If he had one foot in the car to do his circuit (he was over 70 years old and did the same circuit that the SSPX uses 3 priests to do today), and someone asked him to do confession, he would not hesitate one second, and respond CAN you go now?
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    Re: WWFCD - What would Fr. Carl Do?
    « Reply #8 on: January 19, 2018, 02:56:25 AM »
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  • By the way, the SSPX use to teach that the new ordinations of priests and consecrations of bishops are both doubtful at best.. It is only since like 2005 that Menzigen totally changed the tune, likely in preparation to join the new rite priests and bishops.
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    Re: WWFCD - What would Fr. Carl Do?
    « Reply #9 on: January 19, 2018, 10:00:16 AM »
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  • Dear Last Tradhican,
    Thank you so very much for your reply!  Please tell us more--did Fr. Carl try to share his views with SSPX priests?  We are trying to explain what we see, but the priests we have talked to do not deviate from Archbishop Lefebvre's position that some ordinations are valid.  They do not seem to want to look into the consecration of bishops, the most urgent, horrific possibility. Why do not SSPX priests realize the precious treasure they have--Roman Catholic priesthood within Apostolic Succession? If there were some evidence of Fr. Carl's views perhaps they could be persuaded because of their admiration, respect, and love for him?  We are extremely concerned that Novus Ordo priests are serving and/or joining SSPX without conditional ordination by an SSPX bishop. Any advice or wisdom for us will be greatly appreciated!