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Offline Francisco

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« Reply #15 on: October 25, 2012, 04:41:11 AM »
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  • Quote from: Ethelred
    Pablo the Picasso is bashing the brave Bishop Williamson again. Here and in some others posts on Cathinfo today. Now, of all times, when the good bishop has been expelled and has to leave St. George house any moment.

    Is it some sort of obsession on the side of Pablo the Picasso?
    If I were Matthew, I'd ban him for that above post. For sure others got rightly banned for having said similar ugly things about Bishop Williamson.

    H.E. would oppose Our Lady and would drive knifes in the back of the resistance priests! What a bunch of shameless lies. And this is the first thing I've to see this morning when I log into Cathinfo. No, thank you. I think I'd rather have Jack McFarland on there than posts like this.

    What a shame. Pablo is an incredible disgusting person. He should not dare to even utter the word Cristero. Enough is enough. Now Fr. J. Pfeiffer will have to be involved.


    Dear Ethelred, this is what Lucca Back posted elsewhere on this forum:
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    Lucca Back
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    I am a poor poor catholic faithful who need to be taught for my soul to be saved.

    I have to find teacher and pastor. And I have to choose one.

    I was a server at the SSPX Chapel and translater of English speaking priests for their sermons.

    Two Chaples are present here in South Korea.

    One is the Fr. Couture's Capitulants SSPX, the other is the Fr. Chazal's SSPX Kentucky.

    I have to choose. But I don't want to go to these two SSPX organizations.

    I decided to wait for His Excellency Bishop Williamson to send good priests to South Korea.

    I am an Eleison Comments enthusiastic reader from years ago.

    It's OK if I had to attend a mass once per year.
    Our Korean Catholic ancesters had waited for 30 years for their priests to be arrived  from the Pope Blessed Pius IX 150 years ago.

    It's up to His Excellency. I will wait with my faimily Rosarys.

    He is the Athanatius for us faithfuls. He will lead. He should lead.

    Posted Today, 2:47 am    
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    I hope nobody is trying to bushwack Bishop Williamson into consecrating Frs Chazal and Pfeiffer bishops, or else ... another bishop etc etc ...will do so...!!!
    If at all the Resistance is to succeed it has to be based around Bp Williamson and not around these two priests who are known mostly on the internet only. There are some of us Resistas who know both them and Bp Williamson beyond the internet.


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    « Reply #16 on: October 25, 2012, 05:00:56 AM »
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  • I can understand how people are worked up over the next episode of this drama. The next few months could be an important time in the history of the trad movement. The SSPX has been accused of liberalism by one of ABL's chosen and we need to know the extent of active support for this view in order to plan ahead. The bishop will be working out his own future but we hope, instead of 'stewing in a garret' nursing old wounds, he will now spring into action and pursue his mission with more vigour. I am sure it was Menzingen's plan to have him wrapped up in cotton wool under the eye of Fr. Morgan and feed him lots of stodgy puddings to weigh him down. The question is can the bishop now match the enthusiasm and stamina of a new generation of 'rebel' priests?


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    « Reply #17 on: October 25, 2012, 05:05:55 AM »
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  • The Bishop should find a home base somewhere in US.  Maybe he can head to Kentucky and spend some time in this area.

    Perhaps he should find a base in the upper midwest, in which to found a seminary.  Perhaps in Iowa?  

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    « Reply #18 on: October 25, 2012, 05:09:34 AM »
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  • IMO, Winona was in a great location to try to evangelize the Catholic population of the upper Midwest.

    Bishop Williamson's apostolate will be world-wide, of course, but as far as the United States is concerned, what is needed is a revitalization of the Catholic upper-midwest.  


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    « Reply #19 on: October 25, 2012, 05:22:58 AM »
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  • Yes, opportunities galore in the vast US. But a dream would be a London base to awaken the UK Catholic population even Anglo-Catholics! But London takes lots of money .....


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    « Reply #20 on: October 25, 2012, 05:36:24 AM »
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  • Bishop Loras founded the Dubuque Diocese.  

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    It was only after much toil and trouble that St. John Vianney was admitted to the priesthood. At the age of 20, he was having great difficulty in his studies for the priesthood. Mathias Loras, perhaps the most intelligent of Jean-Marie’s fellow seminarians, who was assigned to help him in his lessons, was of a nervous and excitable temperament. One day his patience was exhausted by the sheer incapacity of the big young man, and he boxed his ears before all the others. Jean-Marie was also excitable, but he knelt down before the boy of twelve who had treated him so outrageously and humbly asked his forgiveness. Mathias had a golden heart. Suddenly he felt smitten with grief and, his face bathed in tears, he threw himself into the arms of Jean-Marie who was still on his knees. This incident marked the beginning of an abiding friendship. Mathias Loras subsequently became a missionary in the United States, and eventually Bishop of Dubuque, but never could he forget the action of Jean-Marie and the accent with which he spoke on that occasion.


    http://www.olrl.org/lives/vianney.shtml

    There is a great foundation of Catholicism in the vicinity of Dubuque County.  It is an area that needs Catholic Tradition.

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    « Reply #21 on: October 25, 2012, 05:50:31 AM »
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    It took St. John Vianney ten whole years to renew Ars, but the community changed so noticeably and to such an extent that it was observed even by outsiders.  There was no more working on Sundays, the church was filled more and more every year, and drunkenness fell off.  In the end the taverns had to close their doors since they had no more customers; and even domestic squabbles abated.  Honesty became the principal characteristic.  "Ars is no longer Ars," as St. John Vianney himself wrote; for it had undergone a fundamental change.  Under his guidance the little village became a community of pious people, to whom all his labors were directed.  He delighted in teaching the children their catechism and he did this daily.  After a while the grown-ups came too and he found that those who were children during the Revolution were in complete ignorance of their religious duties.  He taught the people love for the rosary and wanted everyone to carry one around at all times.  It is truly astounding to reflect upon what St. John Vianney, with a staff of trained assistants, was able to achieve in the village in the space of a few years.  What an immense amount of endeavor underlay his work will best be appreciated by anyone who has had to convert only a few drunkards to sanity.


    There could be no greater contrast between this and what is going on right now in the chapels of the neo-SSPX.

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    « Reply #22 on: October 25, 2012, 05:55:33 AM »
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  • Those who are starving for authentic doctrinal and moral instruction in the conciliar religion and in the presence of neo-SSPX priests who are liberals need a new traditionalist apostolate to help them.


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    « Reply #23 on: October 25, 2012, 03:01:43 PM »
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  • Pablo -- this is your last warning.

    No more strong language against Bishop Williamson.

    I normally don't have a problem with your eccentric, slightly crazy self, but I do have to draw the line at uncharitable talk -- especially slander -- toward the most faithful bishop alive today.

    You are a very unstable man.

    Bishop Williamson is clearly the good guy in this SSPX Crisis. And this is a +W friendly board -- you are just a guest here.
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    « Reply #24 on: October 25, 2012, 03:11:01 PM »
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  • Matthew, blessings from God for your defense of the the most faithful bishop alive today.

    It's balm for the soul in these stormy times, where the good shepherd holds the steering wheel.

    Offline Neil Obstat

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    « Reply #25 on: October 25, 2012, 05:19:10 PM »
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  • Quote from: AntiFellayism
    Quote from: PAT317
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    His Excellency blah blah blah Padres Pfeiffer and Chazal by advising Priests blah blah Our Lady of Mount Carmel and the Priests there.


    This is not what Fr. Chazal said at St. Athanasius Church in Vienna, VA.  
    To hear it straight from Fr. Chazal, listen here:

    http://www.inthissignyoushallconquer.com/father-francois-chazal

    Oct. 14, 2012 Vienna VA
    SSPX Resistance Status


    Exactly.



    I'd like to thank PAT317 for this tip.  Fr. Chazal said:

    How he was called to Menzingen to speak with +Fellay, who attempted to defend
    himself against Fr.'s key question, "Why did you not speak out against Assisi 3?"
    His answer was most edifying, for he revealed in his haste something that he would
    not have said if he had been calm.  He admitted that he holds a new outlook toward
    Vatican II than he had before, or that ABL held.  And then he tried to back-track by
    saying that ABL had been willing to make accommodations.  

    [But that only took place for one day, and the next day, he came to his senses and
    recognized he had made a serious error.  Now +Fellay should have the benefit of
    many years to see what ABL saw after one night's sleep on it.  HEY! Maybe ABL
    had a dream that night?  Well, if +Fellay doesn't "see the light," he MUST
    be dreaming!
    ]

    3:00 The new, transitional theory of +Fellay to minimize the errors of the Council:
    we can disagree with Vatican II, and that's okay because we will be working with
    people who disagree with the other 20 councils!  So we have things in common!    

    12:00  -- 2012 is the year for us to open our eyes! ...Shift in doctrine in 2012.

    14:00 There is a need in 2012 to expose this trend or else we will have Vatican II
    all over again. Exposure is what the devil fears the most, and that's why +W is
    going to be expelled because he was willing to expose the General Council (while
    the other 2 bishops did not expose it -- and he went to Campos to Confirm the
    students of Brother Thomas Aquinas, who keeps the spirit of +Castro Mayer alive
    - said elsewhere in this recording, 27:50).

    17:00 26 priests are currently supporting OLMCC, 14 SSPX and 12 independent.
    They accept to put their names on the list opposing the errors of Menzingen.  Once
    they throw out +W more priests will come, because you are not credible without
    a bishop.

    30:40 If Bishop Williamson is expelled, there will be a stronger gathering
    around the expelled bishop.

    32:00 The independent priests in the United States are much more adamant
    regarding the expulsion of +W.

    33:50 Bishop Tissier is asking for the consecration of new bishops.

    34:30 Bishop Tissier agrees with what I think, but disagrees with what I do.  I
    know 10 times more than you do - but be silent!  The GC was a disaster.  You are
    a little soldier, I am a captain.  You follow me.  If +Fellay brings it again on the
    table, I will resist him again.

    36:30 They (the other 2 bishops) believe that the SSPX is the last bastion of
    resistance against Vatican II.  It is their love of the Society.  So they bash me.

    39: B16 has to defer to public opinion, and he cannot pursue any accord with
    the Society unless +W is expelled, therefore, his expulsion means that +Fellay is
    meeting the demands of Rome to continue the accommodations, that is, the
    so-called doctrinal discussions.

    43: We know that there are nuns in Germany praying for the expulsion of
    Bishop Williamson.  Maybe not fasting, but praying.

    46:00 The primary office of the papacy is to appoint people, so if you want to
    know the ideas of Bishop Fellay, look at who he appoints. Look at what happens
    when a priest speaks liberalism: nothing happens.  Just like at Vatican II, more
    damage was done by what was NOT done (to protect tradition) than what WAS
    done.  

    49:20 No order is allowed to expel an episcopal member from the general
    chapter, and to do so requires permission of the Holy Father!  And to require all
    the capitulants to sign an agreement that they will support whatever measures
    are taken against the bishop, before they can vote in the chapter - not even
    Joseph Stalin would do such a thing!!
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    « Reply #26 on: October 25, 2012, 05:28:04 PM »
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  • Bishop Fellay has resorted to tactics that not even the arch-Communist
    Joseph Stalin would have dared to do.


    What does that make +Fellay?  An ULTRA-ARCH-COMMUNIST?





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