Send CathInfo's owner Matthew a gift from his Amazon wish list:
https://www.amazon.com/hz/wishlist/ls/25M2B8RERL1UO

« previous next »
Pages: [1] 2

Author Topic: Williamson/Dugin Connection  (Read 65873 times)

0 Members and 2 Guests are viewing this topic.

Offline Mithrandylan

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 4578
  • Reputation: +5295/-448
  • Gender: Male
Williamson/Dugin Connection
« on: January 30, 2025, 05:17:29 PM »
  • Thanks!0
  • No Thanks!0
    • Anyone have any additional info, insights, or thoughts on this?

    Logged
    "Be kind; do not seek the malicious satisfaction of having discovered an additional enemy to the Church... And, above all, be scrupulously truthful. To all, friends and foes alike, give that serious attention which does not misrepresent any opinion, does not distort any statement, does not mutilate any quotation. We need not fear to serve the cause of Christ less efficiently by putting on His spirit". (Vermeersch, 1913).

    Offline ThatBritPapist

    • Jr. Member
    • **
    • Posts: 164
    • Reputation: +101/-23
    • Gender: Male
    • I hate the Anti-Christ.
    Re: Williamson/Dugin Connection
    « Reply #1 on: January 30, 2025, 05:33:12 PM »
  • Thanks!0
  • No Thanks!0
    • Spiritual Advisor for Anglican Princess Diana :laugh2::laugh2::laugh2:

    What is Dugin smoking
    Logged
    Some People call me a Radical Traditionalist but others call me Shizo.....Oh well :trollface:

    Offline Ladislaus

    • Supporter
    • *****
    • Posts: 46258
    • Reputation: +27208/-5037
    • Gender: Male
    Re: Williamson/Dugin Connection
    « Reply #2 on: January 30, 2025, 06:30:33 PM »
  • Thanks!0
  • No Thanks!0
    • Intringuing.  Why would he also officiate at Dugina's funeral, since the latter was Orthodox?

    Could he have confused him with someone else?
    Logged

    Offline Matthew

    • Mod
    • *****
    • Posts: 32526
    • Reputation: +28743/-567
    • Gender: Male
    Re: Williamson/Dugin Connection
    « Reply #3 on: January 30, 2025, 06:44:46 PM »
  • Thanks!0
  • No Thanks!0
    • Dugin is sucking on the end of a glass barbie.

    Logged
    Want to say "thank you"? 
    You can send me a gift from my Amazon wishlist!
    https://www.amazon.com/hz/wishlist/ls/25M2B8RERL1UO

    Paypal donations: matthew@chantcd.com

    Offline WorldsAway

    • Jr. Member
    • **
    • Posts: 387
    • Reputation: +345/-44
    • Gender: Male
    Re: Williamson/Dugin Connection
    « Reply #4 on: January 30, 2025, 07:08:09 PM »
  • Thanks!1
  • No Thanks!0
    • Part of an interview from November:



    +Williamson says he does not know Dugin a little after the 4:00 mark

    As an aside, he also directly responded to the Rosicrucian accusation nonsense at around 6:15. I know I've seen that floated around here before 
    Logged
    If you had been of the world, the world would love its own: but because you are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you [John 15:108

    Offline Ladislaus

    • Supporter
    • *****
    • Posts: 46258
    • Reputation: +27208/-5037
    • Gender: Male
    Re: Williamson/Dugin Connection
    « Reply #5 on: January 30, 2025, 07:11:41 PM »
  • Thanks!0
  • No Thanks!0
    • I think I figured it out.  Dugin has Bishop Williamson confused with the Anglican "Archbishop" of Cantebury at the time, Rowan Williams, who did officiate at Princess Diana's funeral and was in fact kindof her spiritual advisor.

    Oh well, "Putin's Brain" appears to be misfiring.
    Logged

    Offline Ladislaus

    • Supporter
    • *****
    • Posts: 46258
    • Reputation: +27208/-5037
    • Gender: Male
    Re: Williamson/Dugin Connection
    « Reply #6 on: January 30, 2025, 07:21:25 PM »
  • Thanks!1
  • No Thanks!0
    • Quote from: WorldsAway on January 30, 2025, 07:08:09 PM
    Part of an interview from November:

    +Williamson says he does not know Dugin a little after the 4:00 mark

    As an aside, he also directly responded to the Rosicrucian accusation nonsense at around 6:15. I know I've seen that floated around here before

    I wonder who these nutjobs are who are obsessed with Dugin.  We had one or two of them here.  I cited an article about this absurd allegation of Dugin being "Putin's Brain", where Putin had never actually met the guy, much less did he take direction from Dugin's relatively abstract ideologies.

    Some people have nothing better to do than to make stuff up, including the Bishop Williamson Rosicrucian nonsense.  Rose + Cross = Rosicrucian.  Well, so, St. Therese was a Rosicrucian too!
    Logged

    Offline Ladislaus

    • Supporter
    • *****
    • Posts: 46258
    • Reputation: +27208/-5037
    • Gender: Male
    Re: Williamson/Dugin Connection
    « Reply #7 on: January 30, 2025, 07:23:41 PM »
  • Thanks!0
  • No Thanks!0
    • I'm stunned, however, by how Dugin wouldn't know who officiated at the funeral of his own daughter.
    Logged

    Offline Giovanni Berto

    • Full Member
    • ***
    • Posts: 1304
    • Reputation: +1051/-79
    • Gender: Male
    Re: Williamson/Dugin Connection
    « Reply #8 on: January 30, 2025, 07:28:35 PM »
  • Thanks!0
  • No Thanks!1
    • Quote from: Ladislaus on January 30, 2025, 07:11:41 PM
    I think I figured it out.  Dugin has Bishop Williamson confused with the Anglican "Archbishop" of Cantebury at the time, Rowan Williams, who did officiate at Princess Diana's funeral and was in fact kindof her spiritual advisor.

    Oh well, "Putin's Brain" appears to be misfiring.

    :laugh1: Putin's Russia is certainly on a good path following the man's ideas. He seems very rigorous about his sources.
    Logged

    Offline Ladislaus

    • Supporter
    • *****
    • Posts: 46258
    • Reputation: +27208/-5037
    • Gender: Male
    Re: Williamson/Dugin Connection
    « Reply #9 on: January 30, 2025, 07:29:46 PM »
  • Thanks!0
  • No Thanks!0
    • Quote from: Giovanni Berto on January 30, 2025, 07:28:35 PM
    :laugh1: Putin's Russia is certainly on a good path following the man's ideas. He seems very rigorous about his sources.

    Well, the simple fact is that they're not.  That's just anti-Putin propaganda.  Putin and Dugin have never been seen together, nor do they really know one another, and Putin has denied being at all influenced by Dugin.
    Logged

    Offline Ladislaus

    • Supporter
    • *****
    • Posts: 46258
    • Reputation: +27208/-5037
    • Gender: Male
    Re: Williamson/Dugin Connection
    « Reply #10 on: January 30, 2025, 07:30:26 PM »
  • Thanks!0
  • No Thanks!0
    • Quote from: Ladislaus on January 30, 2025, 07:11:41 PM
    I think I figured it out.  Dugin has Bishop Williamson confused with the Anglican "Archbishop" of Cantebury at the time, Rowan Williams, who did officiate at Princess Diana's funeral and was in fact kindof her spiritual advisor.

    Oh well, "Putin's Brain" appears to be misfiring.

    Bishop + British + Willams = Bishop Williamson (Dugin's Brain Process)
    Logged

    Online Minnesota

    • Sr. Member
    • ****
    • Posts: 2240
    • Reputation: +1268/-595
    • Gender: Male
    Re: Williamson/Dugin Connection
    « Reply #11 on: January 30, 2025, 07:46:16 PM »
  • Thanks!0
  • No Thanks!1
    • There's one regular Trad chapel in Russia and it's Society-run. The other is a CMRI mission that travels around the country. If Williamson accepted an invitation to say Mass at a Society chapel, the superiors would shut it down the next day.
    Logged
    Christ is Risen! He is risen indeed

    Offline Mithrandylan

    • Hero Member
    • *****
    • Posts: 4578
    • Reputation: +5295/-448
    • Gender: Male
    Re: Williamson/Dugin Connection
    « Reply #12 on: January 30, 2025, 08:06:01 PM »
  • Thanks!1
  • No Thanks!0
    • Quote from: Ladislaus on January 30, 2025, 07:11:41 PM
    I think I figured it out.  Dugin has Bishop Williamson confused with the Anglican "Archbishop" of Cantebury at the time, Rowan Williams, who did officiate at Princess Diana's funeral and was in fact kindof her spiritual advisor.

    Oh well, "Putin's Brain" appears to be misfiring.
    That's an interesting theory, but I don't know if it explains why Dugin makes reference to recent sermons, nor why Dugin referred to him as an opponent of liberalism and globalism. 

    I think it's more likely that he's making things up than confusing Williams and Williamson. 
    Logged
    "Be kind; do not seek the malicious satisfaction of having discovered an additional enemy to the Church... And, above all, be scrupulously truthful. To all, friends and foes alike, give that serious attention which does not misrepresent any opinion, does not distort any statement, does not mutilate any quotation. We need not fear to serve the cause of Christ less efficiently by putting on His spirit". (Vermeersch, 1913).

    Offline Mithrandylan

    • Hero Member
    • *****
    • Posts: 4578
    • Reputation: +5295/-448
    • Gender: Male
    Re: Williamson/Dugin Connection
    « Reply #13 on: January 30, 2025, 08:39:46 PM »
  • Thanks!0
  • No Thanks!0
    • Quote from: WorldsAway on January 30, 2025, 07:08:09 PM
    Part of an interview from November:



    +Williamson says he does not know Dugin a little after the 4:00 mark

    As an aside, he also directly responded to the Rosicrucian accusation nonsense at around 6:15. I know I've seen that floated around here before
    Good find, and relevant. 

    Someone's lying. 

    H.E. claims to not know Dugin. I'm inclined to believe him over Dugin. 
    Logged
    "Be kind; do not seek the malicious satisfaction of having discovered an additional enemy to the Church... And, above all, be scrupulously truthful. To all, friends and foes alike, give that serious attention which does not misrepresent any opinion, does not distort any statement, does not mutilate any quotation. We need not fear to serve the cause of Christ less efficiently by putting on His spirit". (Vermeersch, 1913).

    Offline Giovanni Berto

    • Full Member
    • ***
    • Posts: 1304
    • Reputation: +1051/-79
    • Gender: Male
    Re: Williamson/Dugin Connection
    « Reply #14 on: January 30, 2025, 11:58:34 PM »
  • Thanks!0
  • No Thanks!0
    • Quote from: Ladislaus on January 30, 2025, 07:29:46 PM
    Well, the simple fact is that they're not.  That's just anti-Putin propaganda.  Putin and Dugin have never been seen together, nor do they really know one another, and Putin has denied being at all influenced by Dugin.

    I only saw your post after I posted, even though you posted it before I did.

    Anyway, I saw an interview with Dugin by that Carson fellow the other day, and his ideas seemed not so distant from Putin's. He seemed like a quite intelligent man, and had many interesting ideas.

    His connection to Putin may be fake news, but they both seem to be against liberalism. People must have tried to connect him to Putin because he has some shady relations with occultism and other strange things.
    Logged
    Pages: [1] 2
    « previous next »