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Offline Ladislaus

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Re: Why Vigano conditional consecration NOT being shouted from rooftops
« Reply #45 on: January 08, 2024, 06:15:03 PM »
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    • Quote from: TKGS on January 08, 2024, 04:50:58 PM
    No.  That's not where we're at.  We have the Apostles' eye-witness testimony in writing.

    Wrong.  We have Sacred Scripture and its authority only because it's proposed to us by the Church, particularly the successors of the successors of St. Peter.  We believe because the present-day Church proposes it to us.

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    I would not believe the gospel myself if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.

    Sounds rather Prot-like.
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    Re: Why Vigano conditional consecration NOT being shouted from rooftops
    « Reply #46 on: January 08, 2024, 07:18:40 PM »
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    • You're reachin'.  But you're not graspin'.  
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    Re: Why Vigano conditional consecration NOT being shouted from rooftops
    « Reply #47 on: January 08, 2024, 08:16:49 PM »
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    • Quote from: Ladislaus on January 08, 2024, 06:15:03 PM
    We have Sacred Scripture and its authority only because it's proposed to us by the Church, particularly the successors of the successors of St. Peter.  We believe because the present-day Church proposes it to us.
    So, so many Catholics do not understand this truth, including "clergy".
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