From the West . . Given all the emails, postings, and utube speeches there is one missing element. Surprisingingly, NOT ONE, VATICAN II priest, bishop, or cardinal has spoken out against the Agreement betweeen SSPX and the Vatican - not only this anomoly, not one Jєωιѕн group has offered their comments. Isn't this unusual ? . . . When the so called excommunication was lifted, hundreds of INET postings from both Vatican II priests, bishops and Cardinals were posted on the INET for months, and the Jєωιѕн groups stepped in to offer their comments and even went to Rome to see the Pope about reversing his decision. Now with this reality as recorded history, Why in God's good name are all these groups, priests and Vatican II Prelates silent ? . . Can anybody answer this question ? Please do. The answer is, all thining persons with common sense well know that the pending Agreement will end SSPX and Catholic Tradition, and this is what they want. It is that simple. What else could this pssibly mean ? Nobody has brought this point forward and this silence is, as the good Bishop Fellay has said many times, reading between the lines . . . Wake up people. What will you do when Vatican II priests are called to give Mass at your parish ? What then, and who is going to stop them ? By that time it will be all over.

Excellent comments all around. The one post about the DEAFENING silence from Vatican II bishops, cardinals, the Curia, the Jєωs, and all the other usual suspects about the pending agreement is fascinating and terrrifying. Napoleon once wrote that a critical battle tactic was this: NEVER INTERRUPT YOUR ENEMY WHEN HE IS MAKING A MISTAKE. That, my friends, is why you have SILENCE on so many fronts with this pending agreement. The liberals, the modernists, the Jєωs, the masonically-saturated Curia, they all KNOW the SSPX is walking into a TRAP, and nary a peep is allowed. Do not interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake. Period.

It is well known that there is a radical group in the Post Conciliar church that wants to take the Vatican II Revolution forward. The SSPX, as the largest Traditionalist group, is an obstacle to their hidden agenda. Once the SSPX is neutralized through absorption by the Post Conciliar church, Catholics right round the world may be in grave danger of the consequences of this forward-carried Revolution which may finally destroy their Faith in favor of the New One World Religion. Has Bishop Fellay taken into account this possibility and does he realize what harm he may be doing to the whole of Christendom by making common cause with the Post Conciliar church?

I've felt this way for quite a while now. There's very little public backlash by the liberals against the Pope's plans to "regularize" the SSPX. Why? Because the Jєωs, modernists, ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖs and their fellow travelers all know how this saga will end. The SSPX will be marginalized and silenced -- if not outright destroyed. That's what they all want, thus no outrage.

Why the pro-agreement crowd doesn't recognize this simple truth is beyond me.  :reporter:

I've felt this way for quite a while now. There's very little public backlash by the liberals against the Pope's plans to "regularize" the SSPX. Why? Because the Jєωs, modernists, ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖs and their fellow travelers all know how this saga will end. The SSPX will be marginalized and silenced -- if not outright destroyed. That's what they all want, thus no outrage.

Why the pro-agreement crowd doesn't recognize this simple truth is beyond me.  :reporter:

They will take as many as he manages to bring.  If anything, it will serve to divide it into two camps. That is:  the (moderate)"conservatives" from the ("fanatic") real traditionalists. This will ultimately facilitate the persecution of those who defend the Faith.

Yes, yes.  It is the worst sort of betrayal.

And we must not waver for one moment either in not being with those who are in the process of betraying us. Some people are always admiring the grass in the neighbor's field. Instead of looking to their friends, to the Church's defenders, to those fighting on the battlefield, they look to our enemies on the other side. "After all, we must be charitable, we must be kind, we must not be divisive, after all, they are celebrating the Tridentine Mass, they are not as bad as everyone says" —but THEY ARE BETRAYING US —betraying us! They are shaking hands with the Church's destroyers. They are shaking hands with people holding modernist and liberal ideas condemned by the Church. So they are doing the devil's work.

-Archbishop Lefebvre

It has been openly admitted the importance of this pope to be the one to bring the SSPX into "full communion". This was to be accomplished before the 50th anniversary of the opening of Vatican II. Also the "New 1962 Missal" coming this Advent was another goal... the beginning  of their "reform of the reform". Bishop Fellay would be the one to sell it to "traditionalists". Rome doesn't care how many come with +bishop Fellay to Rome.  They will take as many as he manages to bring.  If anything, it will serve to divide it into two camps. That is:  the (moderate)"conservatives" from the ("fanatic") real traditionalists. This will ultimately facilitate the persecution of those who defend the Faith.

Who knows how long + Fellay has been working with Rome, but the secrecy involved in all this negotiations even from the other bishops indicate that he knew what he was doing. Treason indeed! The Faith should never be defended in secrecy, it should be defended openly and from the housetops, when have we read about any saint defending the Faith in this manner? on the other hand, to get away with treason, you have to demand secrecy.

There is no opposition from the left because they are confident in their Judas Goat.

Quote from: Marie Auxiliadora

Who knows how long + Fellay has been working with Rome, but the secrecy involved in all this negotiations even from the other bishops indicate that he knew what he was doing. Treason indeed! The Faith should never be defended in secrecy, it should be defended openly and from the housetops, when have we read about any saint defending the Faith in this manner? on the other hand, to get away with treason, you have to demand secrecy.

There is no opposition from the left because they are confident in their Judas Goat.

But BpFellay has hit a roadblock by using the phrase " errors of Vatican II " in his reply to the Preamble. What can he do now, change it to "accepting Vatican II in the light of Tradition"?. Such a phrase would obviously mean that one can accept Vatican II in another light. Will the Conciliarists accept such a phrase or do they want BpFellay to accept Vatican II unconditionally? His secrecy has not prevented him from landing in this soup.

Hope the other three bishops will lead the call for his removal at the forthcoming General Chapter and also that the new SG will remove all the district superiors who played on his team.