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Offline Marie

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Great Post on AQ Condemns Bishop Fellay
« Reply #45 on: June 06, 2012, 12:47:37 PM »
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    Why would someone give me a thumbs down when I'm QUOTING AQ?

    I continue to love this feature.  :laugh1:


    I don't get the thumbs down either.  I got one yesterday for saying I was praying for all of us here in these uncertain times, "May we find shelter and consolation in Their Hearts"!

    It makes one wonder whether a person who gives a thumbs down to a prayer, is Catholic?

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    Great Post on AQ Condemns Bishop Fellay
    « Reply #46 on: June 06, 2012, 12:57:40 PM »
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    On that note, the wiser amongst you can expand a similar nothingness out to the real world. This great “split” that certain minorities fantasize about will become nothing – or nearly nothing. “Nothing to speak of” I suppose is the term. No schools, no seminaries, no chapels, no convents, no real estate, no meaningful financing and no substantial priesthood.


    Mr. Grasmeier's sense of being depends on his going along with the majority, being on the "winning" side, the side that has the properties, the majority of priests and laity, the Zionist lawyer, Vatican II, the approval of a modernist hierarchy. etc.

    He thinks of priests like Father Chazal as being "nothing" - what does that say about his Faith?  The priority he puts on Faith?

    Is there even the slightest effort, attempt, to answer criticism in this statement?  


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    Great Post on AQ Condemns Bishop Fellay
    « Reply #47 on: June 06, 2012, 01:23:14 PM »
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  • It's very interesting that he uses this term "nothingness" to describe his enemies.  It's very similar to what the neocons like David P. Goldman (editor of First Things say about  non-Jewish nationalities.


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    All the gentiles are doomed to death (he literally labels them "zombies", "the walking dead" from time to time in his pieces), Goldman smugly says, but if you want to be "saved", the only salvation is via some sort of non-nationalistic, universalistic, pro-Jewish/Israel Christianity or secular imperial neoconservatism acceptable to Goldman.

    Stevens seems to argue similarly that all societies are doomed to death, that borders, laws, families etc. are futile attempts to escape it, and that the only salvation is via some sort of global, unitary leftist world state


    This Goldman guy is the editor of First Things, a magazine many "conservatives" read.  Supposedly Santorum reads it?

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    Great Post on AQ Condemns Bishop Fellay
    « Reply #48 on: June 07, 2012, 06:44:31 AM »
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    Why not post the whole stupid thing?  It's incredibly easy to rip it apart.


    Att: Rebels.

    We won’t become angry with you, debate you, coddle you or criticize you. We won’t respond, react or even flinch. We won’t attempt to talk you into something, or talk you out of anything....Please choose wisely.  You’re needed now more than ever.


    I find it rather amusing that there are two kinds of posts following servitium's monologue: 1) bravo! and 2) REDACTED.  IOW, you either AGREE or you BECOME NOTHING.

    The question remains, however, which one "chose wisely?"
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    Great Post on AQ Condemns Bishop Fellay
    « Reply #49 on: June 07, 2012, 10:05:24 AM »
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    Why not post the whole stupid thing?  It's incredibly easy to rip it apart.


    Att: Rebels.

    We won’t become angry with you, debate you, coddle you or criticize you. We won’t respond, react or even flinch. We won’t attempt to talk you into something, or talk you out of anything....Please choose wisely.  You’re needed now more than ever.


    I find it rather amusing that there are two kinds of posts following servitium's monologue: 1) bravo! and 2) REDACTED.  IOW, you either AGREE or you BECOME NOTHING.

    The question remains, however, which one "chose wisely?"



    REDACTED=nananana I can't hear you.  Fingers placed firmly in ears.   :facepalm:

    Is it remotely possible for him to show greater immaturity?

    I guess all the events of late are bringing out people's true colors.  they are showing themselves to be just what they are.



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    Great Post on AQ Condemns Bishop Fellay
    « Reply #50 on: June 07, 2012, 10:32:51 AM »
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  • Actually, "REDACTED" is only one of their tactics.  They can also make comments completely disappear.  I posted some very mild constructive criticism on the thread rating the new AQ format and I verified that it did in fact get posted.  But when I checked the next day it was completely gone without a trace.  They are terribly sensitive over there and the quality of the site has deteriorated very noticeably.  And now Mr. Grasmier has stooped to the level of criticizing other forums which he characterizes as "blabfests" or "chats" run by women.  As I mentioned in my criticism I am spending less and less time on AQ and now I think I will just abandon it altogether.  It is a waste of time.

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    Great Post on AQ Condemns Bishop Fellay
    « Reply #51 on: June 07, 2012, 01:28:54 PM »
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  • Mr. Grasmeier:

    Re: "Att. Rebels"

    If you are reading these posts remember that in times of general apostacy which have never been as bad as now, usually the rebels are the ones that end up with the title of Saints.




    The love of God be your motivation, the will of God your guiding principle, the glory of God your goal.
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    Great Post on AQ Condemns Bishop Fellay
    « Reply #52 on: June 07, 2012, 03:03:23 PM »
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    Mr. Grasmeier:

    Re: "Att. Rebels"

    If you are reading these posts remember that in times of general apostacy which have never been as bad as now, usually the rebels are the ones that end up with the title of Saints.







     :applause:



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    Great Post on AQ Condemns Bishop Fellay
    « Reply #53 on: June 08, 2012, 07:40:36 AM »
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  • It is funny how AQ and FE are both bad for entirely different reasons.

    FE is similar to a socialist state. Liberalism disguised as Tradition is the party line, and the site is run on emotion and feelings. So you get random bans based on if the owners were having a bad day or you happened to say the wrong thing. Of course the "wrong thing" was always in the Traditional direction. Either that or you hurt the feelings of one of the cheerleaders. Its management is all over the place, skipping from one emotion based decision to another while the quality of the site spirals downward. Similar to Greece, or all the European socialist states, they are going down the tubes, yet still mindlessly following the policies that are sending them down the tubes.

    AQ is similar to a fascist state. Unless you salute the owner and his henchmen, you will be exterminated. Before doing this, der Fuhror will try fear and intimidation tactics to force you to comply. Anyone who does not comply will be eradicated. Allegiance to the AQ agenda, heart, mind, and soul is required. If you do not agree with AQ mods 100%, you are vermin to be eliminated. Like the Nazis, the AQ mods listen to nobody but themselves, clueless to reality, and delusionally think their website is the most powerful force on the face of the earth. They also have personal delusions of granduer (that they are the master Trads). Plus they are prone to juvenile hissy fits and temper tantrums, just like der Fuhrer, executing people in random fits of rage or otherwise sending terror messages to intimidate the people into submission. Someone should put subtitles to that Hitler video to do a satire on AQ & Grasmeier. It would be hilarious.  :laugh1:

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    Great Post on AQ Condemns Bishop Fellay
    « Reply #54 on: June 08, 2012, 03:55:04 PM »
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    It is funny how AQ and FE are both bad for entirely different reasons.

    FE is similar to a socialist state. Liberalism disguised as Tradition is the party line, and the site is run on emotion and feelings. So you get random bans based on if the owners were having a bad day or you happened to say the wrong thing. Of course the "wrong thing" was always in the Traditional direction. Either that or you hurt the feelings of one of the cheerleaders. Its management is all over the place, skipping from one emotion based decision to another while the quality of the site spirals downward. Similar to Greece, or all the European socialist states, they are going down the tubes, yet still mindlessly following the policies that are sending them down the tubes.

    AQ is similar to a fascist state. Unless you salute the owner and his henchmen, you will be exterminated. Before doing this, der Fuhror will try fear and intimidation tactics to force you to comply. Anyone who does not comply will be eradicated. Allegiance to the AQ agenda, heart, mind, and soul is required. If you do not agree with AQ mods 100%, you are vermin to be eliminated. Like the Nazis, the AQ mods listen to nobody but themselves, clueless to reality, and delusionally think their website is the most powerful force on the face of the earth. They also have personal delusions of granduer (that they are the master Trads). Plus they are prone to juvenile hissy fits and temper tantrums, just like der Fuhrer, executing people in random fits of rage or otherwise sending terror messages to intimidate the people into submission. Someone should put subtitles to that Hitler video to do a satire on AQ & Grasmeier. It would be hilarious.  :laugh1:


    I've found it difficult to write critiques of the various forums because IMO, the owners set the tone, and the personal spiritualities of those individuals directly affect the work.  That said, as the above two either made their personal lives public, set themselves up as Catholic teachers or view themselves as gatekeepers for what is traditionally Catholic and what is not, their behavior is fair game (without judging their interior disposition which is for God to do).

    FE devolved years ago when the owner revealed her own irregular marital status, adulterous behavior and mental health issues.  I remember being shocked at the time and scandalized like many others.  How can a person in her situation present herself (or himself) as a teacher when they aren't following the teachings of the Church themselves?  We were all labeled prudes, a tactic still used there to this day.  I am far from a prude and the bizarre things posted there still disturb me - death metal lyrics, occult symbolism, New Age material, etc. Some of the other stuff may be okay from a psychological perspective but it doesn't belong on a traditional Catholic forum.  That's what the liberal N.O.s do because they lost their vertical element, not us.   Anyway, the above was all posted publicly so I think it's fair game to critique and serves as a warning to Catholics to stay away.  I left after the first incident and don't go back.

    AQ is an irrational, unpredictable in a predictable way kind of place. The abuse of posters is cyclic.  I can't add much to the above without speculating as to serv's motives which can only be a guess.  Since it isn't healthy I stay away.

    Free Republic is another story.  The religion forum is a facade.  Only the lukewarm and the deluded are allowed to stay and a Novus Ordo sociopath who harassed me still rules the roost.  

    I like it here so far at cathinfo.  Matthew seems very balanced and fair.  Running a forum is a thankless job and I'm grateful for a place to speak freely within reason and share ideas.  I've stayed away from forums in past years because of above bad experiences.  It's nice to be back among Trads.
    For it is written: I will strike the shepherd, and the sheep of the flock shall be dispersed. Matthew 26:31

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    Great Post on AQ Condemns Bishop Fellay
    « Reply #55 on: June 08, 2012, 06:30:11 PM »
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    AQ is similar to a fascist state. Unless you salute the owner and his henchmen, you will be exterminated. Before doing this, der Fuhror will try fear and intimidation tactics to force you to comply. Anyone who does not comply will be eradicated. Allegiance to the AQ agenda, heart, mind, and soul is required. If you do not agree with AQ mods 100%, you are vermin to be eliminated. Like the Nazis, the AQ mods listen to nobody but themselves, clueless to reality, and delusionally think their website is the most powerful force on the face of the earth. They also have personal delusions of granduer (that they are the master Trads). Plus they are prone to juvenile hissy fits and temper tantrums, just like der Fuhrer, executing people in random fits of rage or otherwise sending terror messages to intimidate the people into submission. Someone should put subtitles to that Hitler video to do a satire on AQ & Grasmeier. It would be hilarious.  :laugh1:


    Eerily similar to Menzingen.

    Take out the "AQ" and replace it with Menzingen.  I don't see any difference.


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    Great Post on AQ Condemns Bishop Fellay
    « Reply #56 on: June 18, 2012, 07:46:32 AM »
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    brainglitch said:

    ...If Bishop Williamson and Bishop de Mallerais say that the deal is bad, then I would side with them. My instinct right now is to say that a deal is a bad idea-not in principle, but considering the current circumstances. However, it may not be. We need more info in order to make a judgment like that.

    ...It is rash judgment to say that Fellay is a traitor...


     
    Well, Mgr Tissier at St Nicolas said:

    ...So, St. Basil didn't use ambiguous expressions with those who wanted to return to the Church. He demanded that they profess the entire Catholic Faith but using a nice way of saying it. He was prudent, very good, but in professing the true faith. He was not willing to sign ambiguous texts, dear faithful. That's what we must do today. Refuse ambiguous texts, not stop condemning error and correctly professing the Catholic Faith. And when the conciliarists come back, one day, in twenty five years, repenting of the council, when they see the continual catastrophes, the empty seminaries, the churches in ruins, apostasy everywhere, immorality everywhere, they will repent deeply, and when they do, when they begin to come back, full of repentance we can use formulae to help them. But not now; the crisis is in full swing, now we have to be firm and condemn the errors of the council, especially the denial of Christ the King, the refusal of Christ the King. That, dear faithful, is our plan of action. There's no point in deceiving ourselves, there's no way the crisis is almost over, the crisis is far from being over, the fight is going to last a long time and so we need to get organised, to last out and to continue to profess the whole Catholic Faith in full confidence in the power of Our Lord Jesus Christ. All power in heaven and on earth has been given to me, go ye therefore into the whole world, preach the truth, preach the Blessed Trinity, preach Christ the King, preach Christ the Priest, have likewise confidence in my divine Mother who has all graces, who distributes all graces, it's through her that I will triumph over my enemies, it's through her that I will bring the Catholic Faith back to my Church. Have confidence in my Mother, Immaculate Virgin in her Faith, may the Blessed Mother keep our Faith immaculate. In the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Ghost. Amen.

    Have you changed your mind yet?


    I'm not sure.....



    brainglitch,
    I don't mean to embarass you but you came so strongly in defense of bishop Fellay that I had to ask you again. Is your mind clear now after the Winona ordinations?

    The love of God be your motivation, the will of God your guiding principle, the glory of God your goal.
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