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Traditional Catholic Faith => SSPX Resistance News => Topic started by: Miseremini on June 16, 2013, 08:40:16 PM
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Father Peter Scott announced at Mass today he will be going to South Africa. Not sure of his replacement yet. Someone from Ireland I understand.
Are any other priests being moved?
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Yes, but I think that is the most significant change so far as Canada goes. Second on the list, Fr. Fox is being sent to Australia. Fr. Boulet, temporarily placed in Toronto, is going to Winnipeg. There is a new German priest due to arrive. A Canadian is being ordained and sent to the new mass centre in Calgary.
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oh my. Just as we were moving into the area (St. Catharines, that is, not Africa).
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Fr. David Sherry from Ireland is replacing Fr. Scott. Fr. Emmanuel Herkel is going to Toronto.
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Fr. Scott's replacement is a Fr. Sherry from Ireland. Fr. Rusak from Winnipeg is off to Langley, BC, along with Fr. Okerse (who's currently in Calgary). Fr. Herkel (from Calgary) is going to Toronto.
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You beat me to it.
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Sorry-Fr. Okerse is going to Africa, not Langley.
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How often do SSPX priests get moved around? Is this normal?
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Fr. David Sherry from Ireland is replacing Fr. Scott. Fr. Emmanuel Herkel is going to Toronto.
Perhaps John Grace is familiar with Fr. Sherry?
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Fr. Becher, to Kenya
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Fr. Becher, to Kenya
Where is Fr. Becher at present?
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Sorry-Fr. Okerse is going to Africa, not Langley.
Aren't there two Father Ockerses? Where in Africa?
Is this the same Fr Francis Ockerse who wrote in a recent letter:
Dear Beloved parishioners of Rocky Mountain House,
It was with a certain sadness that I learnt that some of you have been caught up in the effervescence of the revolt against the legitimate superiors of the SSPX spearheaded by Bp. Williamson.etc. ...
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Germany and Austria
Fr. Schmidberger (District superior of Germany) => Zaitzkofen (Seminary)
Fr. Trutt (District superior of Austria) => München
Fr. F. Udressy (München) => Stuttgart (new District superior of Germany)
Fr. Frey (Zaitzkofen) => Jaidhof (new District superior of Austria)
Fr. Suter (Wien) => Wangs (School)
Fr. Göttler (Wien) => Berlin
Fr. Failer (Rheinhausen) => Austria (Wien?)
Fr. Steiner (Stuttgart) => Austria (Wien?)
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Fr. Becher, to Kenya
Where is Fr. Becher at present?
Arcadia
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Fr. David Sherry from Ireland is replacing Fr. Scott. Fr. Emmanuel Herkel is going to Toronto.
Perhaps John Grace is familiar with Fr. Sherry?
I met him on the first Sunday when he arrived to become Prior of Corpus Christi in Athlone.Both he and Fr Gallagher were first Irish priests to be stationed in Ireland.
I never had an long discussion with him.I found Fr Gallagher more approachable though it was mainly Fr Sherry, who offered Mass I attended when I could get to Mass.
I wrote Fr Sherry a few emails regarding 'El Krahgate' but never got any reply.
Did he ever address the crisis from the pulpit?.
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Fr. MacDonald is going to Athlone, Ireland
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Again a personal opinion and on my experience Fr David Sherry never did allay my concerns regarding crisis in the SSPX.
He ignored me.I sent emails cc to St George's House.He like all SSPX priests are aware of the facts.
Did he address the crisis,new direction etc etc in his later sermons.I heard his earlier sermons and no mention was made.All was ok in the pious union.
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Fr Matthew Clifton is going to Calgary from Scotland.
Fr Windergern is replacing him.
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In the British District there are two movements that we know of.
Fr. Clifton is being moved from Scotland to Canada.
Fr. Kimbal is being moved from Bristol to Africa.
No prizes for guessing what those two priests have in common...
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Fr. David Sherry from Ireland is replacing Fr. Scott. Fr. Emmanuel Herkel is going to Toronto.
Perhaps John Grace is familiar with Fr. Sherry?
I met him on the first Sunday when he arrived to become Prior of Corpus Christi in Athlone.Both he and Fr Gallagher were first Irish priests to be stationed in Ireland.
I never had an long discussion with him.I found Fr Gallagher more approachable though it was mainly Fr Sherry, who offered Mass I attended when I could get to Mass.
I wrote Fr Sherry a few emails regarding 'El Krahgate' but never got any reply.
Did he ever address the crisis from the pulpit?.
I remember him from when he was in England a few years ago, and he was very nice and a very good preacher.
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Yes, it's the one and same Fr. Okerse that wrote that letter to Rocky Mountain House. Excuse my spelling of his name (Ockerse?).
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Fr. David Sherry from Ireland is replacing Fr. Scott. Fr. Emmanuel Herkel is going to Toronto.
Perhaps John Grace is familiar with Fr. Sherry?
I met him on the first Sunday when he arrived to become Prior of Corpus Christi in Athlone.Both he and Fr Gallagher were first Irish priests to be stationed in Ireland.
I never had an long discussion with him.I found Fr Gallagher more approachable though it was mainly Fr Sherry, who offered Mass I attended when I could get to Mass.
I wrote Fr Sherry a few emails regarding 'El Krahgate' but never got any reply.
Did he ever address the crisis from the pulpit?.
I remember him from when he was in England a few years ago, and he was very nice and a very good preacher.
I agree that he is nice and a good preacher but he didn't allay my concerns.A personal opinion of mine.
It is my opinion he is anti agreement.
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Someone told us that Father Wegner is being transferred outside Canada. Can anyone confirm this?
Who will then be the new Canadian Superior?
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Someone told us that Father Wegner is being transferred outside Canada. Can anyone confirm this?
Who will then be the new Canadian Superior?
Haven't heard that yet but it sounds about right. They bring them to Canada only long enough for them to arrange entry into the U.S.
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OK, then we can guess that Father Wegner will replace Father Rostand and that this has not yet been announced. Logical.
Then who will replace Father Wegner? Someone young and European?
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I am not surprised Father Scott is actually leaving this time, for District 9 in South Africa (if you have not seen the movie the metaphor is alas lost).
Expect a pro-Fellay replacement. Same thing with the DS for Canuckistan.
The schools MUST be in control of the Neo-SSPX in order for the indoctrination to be complete.
I wish Father Scott well. He is/was both loved and hated.
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I am not surprised Father Scott is actually leaving this time, for District 9 in South Africa (if you have not seen the movie the metaphor is alas lost).
Expect a pro-Fellay replacement. Same thing with the DS for Canuckistan.
The schools MUST be in control of the Neo-SSPX in order for the indoctrination to be complete.
I wish Father Scott well. He is/was both loved and hated.
Father Allesio will attest that Africa is mentally hazardous duty.
Maybe it's the neoSSPX's equivalent to Siberia ?
Dare ye question Msgr. Fellay? To Africa!
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OK, then we can guess that Father Wegner will replace Father Rostand and that this has not yet been announced. Logical.
Then who will replace Father Wegner? Someone young and European?
I'm sure the American District faithful and Father Rostand could both use a break from each other.
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pbax said:
Father MacDonald is going to Athlone, Ireland.
Which Father MacDonald? There are brothers. Father Stephen MacDonald is at the chapel in Baton Rouge. Thanks.
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OK, then we can guess that Father Wegner will replace Father Rostand and that this has not yet been announced. Logical.
Then who will replace Father Wegner? Someone young and European?
I'm sure the American District faithful and Father Rostand could both use a break from each other.
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He ain't goin anywhere soon.
Count on it.
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So, Fr. Peter Scott and Fr. Kimball are both going to Africa? It figures.
Though they have both been silenced in some way, the remoteness of Africa can give to them some time to think and prepare them, like a hermit in the desert, to come out strong again.
Far away places have always been the M.O. for Menzingen. That would be a good sign that these priests are going.
Remember, the internet is just a short distance away for if or when they will finally come out fighting like Frs. Chazal and Pfeiffer did in the far away place of India.
So long as God will come out first, all is well.
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Is any one here from Poland to know what is happening with Fr. John Jenkins, an American priest, who has been stationed in Poland for a few years now?
And what position he has taken in all of this?
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Is any one here from Poland to know what is happening with Fr. John Jenkins, an American priest, who has been stationed in Poland for a few years now?
And what position he has taken in all of this?
Fr. Jenkins, who at one time had been in Ridgefield, visited Ridgefield last fall
(2012). He was adamant that "there is no deal" ;" You are listening to rumors on the internet!", " Bishop Fellay is not making a deal with Rome!" He could not explain at all the dealings with GREC, he would not explain at all the doctrinal declaration--- all he knew was that there was no deal-- so everybody please go back to sleep. He also revealed that they were working amongst the Novus Ordo in Poland to bring the groups closer!-- The same initiative, it seems, that Bp. Fellay had going on in France and Belgium, and Father Pflugger was pushing heavily in the Asian district, with Fr. Couture, Fr Chazal and Fr. Pfeiffer.
If Jenkins has changed his tune-- I'd be quite surprised-- and I've not heard of it.When you are actively promoting ecuŠ¼enism, it gets kind of difficult to resist Fellay's joining the Conciliar church. I would just love to hear what he says now, since the public revelations that Fellay was, of course, making a deal with Rome, and giving away the store, at that!
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Father Peter Scott announced at Mass today he will be going to South Africa. Not sure of his replacement yet. Someone from Ireland I understand.
Are any other priests being moved?
This sounds like a "punishment" for not openly touting the "party line".
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Yes, but I think that is the most significant change so far as Canada goes. Second on the list, Fr. Fox is being sent to Australia. Fr. Boulet, temporarily placed in Toronto, is going to Winnipeg. There is a new German priest due to arrive. A Canadian is being ordained and sent to the new mass centre in Calgary.
Sounds like another punishment. Maybe he'll join the Resistance for good.
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Father Peter Scott announced at Mass today he will be going to South Africa. Not sure of his replacement yet. Someone from Ireland I understand.
Are any other priests being moved?
This sounds like a "punishment" for not openly touting the "party line".
How so?
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Yes, but I think that is the most significant change so far as Canada goes. Second on the list, Fr. Fox is being sent to Australia. Fr. Boulet, temporarily placed in Toronto, is going to Winnipeg. There is a new German priest due to arrive. A Canadian is being ordained and sent to the new mass centre in Calgary.
Sounds like another punishment. Maybe he'll join the Resistance for good.
He's from Australia, right? How is that punishment??
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Why the constant musical chairs? We have had 4 priests in 3 years.
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No one answered the question --
Yes, it is normal to shift a bunch of priests around every year.
The SSPX is a missionary society, and getting moved around is part of the vocation the priests have signed up for.
The announcements are made in June, and they usually take effect 1-2 months later.
They move everyone around because you have a constant stream of new priests. Every place is being "taken care of" now with X priests...what are we going to do, now that we have X+10?
Adding these 10 new priests, with their various experience and talents, is going to change the "recipe" for where everyone should be.
But it's also a great chance to move priests around with no one asking "why?" since it happens every year.
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Why the constant musical chairs? We have had 4 priests in 3 years.
Not us. Same one for 8 years now.
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They dont move everyone...... :dancing:
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This is from another topic:
Francisco said:
Will they replace him (Fr Wegner) as Canada's Superior with that fellow opportunist and Clique Member, Daniel Couture, I wonder?
Christnoel1 said:
Very possible. :reporter: It seems that Fr. Salvador is out, Fr. Loskee? ( not sure of the spelling ) from Ireland will be transferred to Singapore. Ex-SPX Rev. Mr. Hattrup (to be ordained priest in Winona on Friday, 21st June, will be assigned to the Asian District in the Philippines. So it is two into Asia and one out.
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What we now hear is that Fr Babu Theresian will be moved from India to Manila. He is a Tamil speaking Indian. Fr Christopher Beaublat takes over from Fr Robert Brucciani as Prior of India. The latter will now be the headmaster of the India Priory School which has about 50 pupils. So the Indian Mission will have just three priests: Frs Beaublat, Brucciani, and Gregory Noronha ( who is Indian).
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Why the constant musical chairs? We have had 4 priests in 3 years.
This one time stable parish has been in a state of flux for several years now....
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Yes, but I think that is the most significant change so far as Canada goes. Second on the list, Fr. Fox is being sent to Australia. Fr. Boulet, temporarily placed in Toronto, is going to Winnipeg. There is a new German priest due to arrive. A Canadian is being ordained and sent to the new mass centre in Calgary.
Sounds like another punishment. Maybe he'll join the Resistance for good.
Today is the 1-year anniversary of Fr. Damien Fox's conference,
The Frog and the Scorpion, Mediafire Download Here (http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?slfd5h7k5qhy52w).*
At the time, I passed around this analogy to friends because it
was a turning point for me. I recall getting quizzical looks from
several who did not find it amusing. It's interesting to know
that everyone who found something to criticize about that
story from children's literature applied to the SSPX of that time,
turned out to be Accordistas when push came to shove, but a
few had a kind of awakening because of Fr. Fox.
I'm sure that the Menzingen-denizens have not forgiven him for
that.
*The download uses VLC Media Player, which is a free software
that you can get as open source and it works on just about
every computer made since the beginning of personal computers.
File is 44.7 MB and takes about 4 minutes with DSL Internet. I
have no idea how long that is for DialUp - maybe an hour?
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duration 48:46
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Why the constant musical chairs? We have had 4 priests in 3 years.
Not us. Same one for 8 years now.
They must feel he is keeping the lid on pretty good, and not embarrassing them by observing aloud that "the Emperor has no clothes".
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Does anyone know who the replacements for Fr. Kimball and Fr. Clifton in England are?
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Why the constant musical chairs? We have had 4 priests in 3 years.
Not us. Same one for 8 years now.
They must feel he is keeping the lid on pretty good, and not embarrassing them by observing aloud that "the Emperor has no clothes".
This seems to be one of the closely guarded secrets even
of the diocese bishops - they move parish priests around like
game pieces on a playing board and they do not give any
reason for the moves. When someone asks, even if it's the
priest himself, they say, pretty much, "none of your beeswax."
Yours is not to question why.
Yours is but to do or die.
They have their reasons, and they're not telling. Why not?
Well, they're not telling that either.
So we are left to our reason and common sense. If telling
their reasons could be made to appear as though it supports
their agenda and does not make trouble for their demands of
blind obedience (they're not honest enough to use that term),
then they would tell their reasons. But they do not tell their
reasons, therefore, we are left to surmise that the opposite
must be the case.
Telling their reasons must be problematic because there
would be no way of doing so convincingly, and other
questions would arise inevitably, such that their all-important
agenda would be at risk.
Once we have that principle in mind, we can presume to
follow the logic trail from there. Invariably, it is the identity
of their all-important agenda that is at stake. And it would be
their agenda itself that they are trying to keep from being
exposed for what it is. In the case of the Menzingen-
denizens, it is their push toward an updating to Vat.II and
the New Code and false ecuŠ¼enism and a one-world church
that is what they do not want to admit is the truth.
But whatever you do, do not believe Internet rumours.
Oh, but they'll never define what they mean by that. They
leave it up to you to think you're smart by imagining what
they mean, and that way, the same ambiguous message
can mean different things to different people, and
everyone's own subjective reality can be their own fantasy,
even while the leadership continues its specific course of
action only without having to bother with accountability.
Hey, it's worked for the Obamanation for 5 years, why not
the Menzingen-denizens?