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Offline Green Scapular

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Where is Fr. Roland de Merode?
« on: December 02, 2014, 11:10:04 AM »
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  • On March 19, 2014 he wrote a letter to his superior, Fr. de Caqueray, saying he was going to leave the SSPX the next day and open a home for "isolated and disaffected priests".

    On July 15, 2014 at Aville, France, L'Union Sacerdotale Marcel Lefebvre was founded, and Fr. de Merode was elected or assigned to be the coordinator for France.  

    On August 29, 2014, Fr. de Merode resigned as the coordinator, but was listed as one of the 5 priests in charge of the 5 "zones" in France for the Resistance.  

    http://francefidele.fr/?p=304

    But looking at the website today, we can see that France is divided now into only 4 zones, and Fr. de Merode is missing from the website's list altogether.

    http://francefidele.fr/ (see the Centres de messes tab)

    Has Fr. de Merode resigned from the Resistance now, too?  

    Where is he now, and what he is doing?  


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    Where is Fr. Roland de Merode?
    « Reply #1 on: December 02, 2014, 03:04:11 PM »
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  • Quote from: Green Scapular
    On March 19, 2014 he wrote a letter to his superior, Fr. de Caqueray, saying he was going to leave the SSPX the next day and open a home for "isolated and disaffected priests".

    On July 15, 2014 at Aville, France, L'Union Sacerdotale Marcel Lefebvre was founded, and Fr. de Merode was elected or assigned to be the coordinator for France.  

    On August 29, 2014, Fr. de Merode resigned as the coordinator, but was listed as one of the 5 priests in charge of the 5 "zones" in France for the Resistance.  

    http://francefidele.fr/?p=304

    But looking at the website today, we can see that France is divided now into only 4 zones, and Fr. de Merode is missing from the website's list altogether.

    http://francefidele.fr/ (see the Centres de messes tab)

    Has Fr. de Merode resigned from the Resistance now, too?  

    Where is he now, and what he is doing?  

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    Where is Fr. Roland de Merode?
    « Reply #2 on: December 02, 2014, 07:14:06 PM »
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    It seems we have another Patrick/Pat2/Pat3/Pat4/Pat on our hands, posting same thing on multiple threads, even older ones.  


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    Where is Fr. Roland de Merode?
    « Reply #3 on: December 03, 2014, 04:55:55 AM »
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  • I heard that Fr de Merode is in Lourdes and he has there a little chapel... but he does not take care of the south west of France. It is Fr Rioult.

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    Where is Fr. Roland de Merode?
    « Reply #4 on: December 03, 2014, 07:59:49 AM »
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    I heard that Fr de Merode is in Lourdes and he has there a little chapel... but he does not take care of the south west of France. It is Fr Rioult.


    Thank you.  That may answer where he is, but is he still associated with the Resistance or not, and what is his present work?  Is he simply independent now?


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    Where is Fr. Roland de Merode?
    « Reply #5 on: December 04, 2014, 05:14:33 AM »
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  • From what I heard, he is still associated with the Resistance, but you know, juridically, the USML is not at all a second sspx. The USML is just a group of independant priests. It is very important to clarify that. Fr Bruno OSB is just a coordinator, not a superior. So they are all independant priests with just links of frienship, and I think it is much better, because it prevents another possible bad leadership... When you see the awful declaration published on France fidèle, you thank God that the USML is not a second Society... This declaration condemns the Resistance's position particularly because it says that it is a dangerous mistake to wait for the conversion of Rome... And nobody says anything... In spite of all the letters I wrote to the priests... Incredible. If you are interested in this problem, I explained everything here : problème posé par la déclaration de fidélité catholique publiée par France fidèle et par les Dominicains d'Avrillé dans le Sel de la terre n°89
    Since I wrote my article, the Dominicans published another declaration which is better but not acceptable anyway... I wrote them and some priests to explain the problem. I am going to wait a few days. Pray for the priests, please.

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    Where is Fr. Roland de Merode?
    « Reply #6 on: December 04, 2014, 07:16:00 AM »
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    ... When you see the awful declaration published on France fidèle, you thank God that the USML is not a second Society... This declaration condemns the Resistance's position particularly because it says that it is a dangerous mistake to wait for the conversion of Rome... And nobody says anything...


    Hmmm! No wonder it has been heard said that in the future the "Resistance" priests may be taken back by the Society, not as full fledged members, but as "helpers".

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    Where is Fr. Roland de Merode?
    « Reply #7 on: December 04, 2014, 08:58:49 AM »
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  • Pray, please


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    Where is Fr. Roland de Merode?
    « Reply #8 on: December 04, 2014, 10:38:31 AM »
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    From what I heard, he is still associated with the Resistance, but you know, juridically, the USML is not at all a second sspx. The USML is just a group of independant priests. It is very important to clarify that. Fr Bruno OSB is just a coordinator, not a superior. So they are all independant priests with just links of frienship, and I think it is much better, because it prevents another possible bad leadership... When you see the awful declaration published on France fidèle, you thank God that the USML is not a second Society... This declaration condemns the Resistance's position particularly because it says that it is a dangerous mistake to wait for the conversion of Rome... And nobody says anything... In spite of all the letters I wrote to the priests... Incredible. If you are interested in this problem, I explained everything here : problème posé par la déclaration de fidélité catholique publiée par France fidèle et par les Dominicains d'Avrillé dans le Sel de la terre n°89
    Since I wrote my article, the Dominicans published another declaration which is better but not acceptable anyway... I wrote them and some priests to explain the problem. I am going to wait a few days. Pray for the priests, please.


    Pardon me if I come across as a pompous American arse, but it appears you write English well enough to post on this forum and yet you post a link to a critical response you have to the Dominicans of Avrille which is written in French only? I used Google translate to see if I could make some sense of what you have written and it appears you have a problem even with some of the actions of Archbishop Lefebvre? Are you not the same one that was called out by Fr. Chazal a few months back: Clarification from Fr. François Chazal Regarding the "Avec l’Immaculée" Website

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    Where is Fr. Roland de Merode?
    « Reply #9 on: December 04, 2014, 10:40:53 AM »
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    Where is Fr. Roland de Merode?
    « Reply #10 on: December 04, 2014, 12:59:05 PM »
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  • Yes, I am the one condemned by Fr Chazal. it is a misunderstanding. I am working to solve it. it is about the regulation of birth and Pius XII. Fr Chazal thinks I am a liberal. You will have news about that subject in the end of december or in January. Fr Chazal and I will publish something and everybody will know if we are reconciled or if I am still condemned by Fr Chazal. We are going to study in every detail the doctrine of the church about the subject this month. We both want to do God's will. I appreciate a lot Fr Chazal... Pray that we get reconciled, please. For the moment, I prefer not to speak further on the subject, till our study is not finished.

    For Abp Lefebvre I explained everything in details here :http://aveclimmaculee.blogspot.fr/p/voici-quelques-citations-de-la-lettre.html
    Abp Lefebvre did not condemned the principle of making a practical deal with Rome, after the consecration of the 4 bishops in 1988. I give disurbing quotes. Some priests congratulated me. other condemned me for this article.

    The declaration of France fidèle condemns the initial position of the Resistance saying that it is "risky" to wait for the conversion of Rome. They say it is a "waiting game of a statu quo without any outcome" It is very dangerous and nobody dares to tell something because if they say so, they are on my side. And it is impossible to agree with me and to be politically correct, since my condemnation by Fr Chazal... So because everybody is afraid to show he is with me, it is the silence. And through Fr Pivert (cf. here) and this declaration, the accordist ideas enter the Resistance.


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    Where is Fr. Roland de Merode?
    « Reply #11 on: December 04, 2014, 02:40:07 PM »
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  • I have just learnt something new, today, about Fr de Merode, on the new website that France fidèle is building. They say he is a friend of the USML but not in the USML. It is on this page.
    When I went on the website this afternoon, they had not yet copied the bad declaration on it. They let it on the old website. But the new website is still in process of building... I will be interested in seeing if they copy or not this declaration. Anyway, I have asked they condemn it explicitly. We asked Bp Fellay to condemn his April 15th declaration, so we must ask them to condemn their bad declaration. The church always does that : when a error which is dangerous is published, a public condemnation is needed.

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    Where is Fr. Roland de Merode?
    « Reply #12 on: December 04, 2014, 11:42:48 PM »
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    Yes, I am the one condemned by Fr Chazal. it is a misunderstanding. I am working to solve it. it is about the regulation of birth and Pius XII. Fr Chazal thinks I am a liberal. You will have news about that subject in the end of december or in January. Fr Chazal and I will publish something and everybody will know if we are reconciled or if I am still condemned by Fr Chazal. We are going to study in every detail the doctrine of the church about the subject this month. We both want to do God's will. I appreciate a lot Fr Chazal... Pray that we get reconciled, please. For the moment, I prefer not to speak further on the subject, till our study is not finished.

    For Abp Lefebvre I explained everything in details here :http://aveclimmaculee.blogspot.fr/p/voici-quelques-citations-de-la-lettre.html
    Abp Lefebvre did not condemned the principle of making a practical deal with Rome, after the consecration of the 4 bishops in 1988. I give disurbing quotes. Some priests congratulated me. other condemned me for this article.

    The declaration of France fidèle condemns the initial position of the Resistance saying that it is "risky" to wait for the conversion of Rome. They say it is a "waiting game of a statu quo without any outcome" It is very dangerous and nobody dares to tell something because if they say so, they are on my side. And it is impossible to agree with me and to be politically correct, since my condemnation by Fr Chazal... So because everybody is afraid to show he is with me, it is the silence. And through Fr Pivert (cf. here) and this declaration, the accordist ideas enter the Resistance.


    Perhaps you can also discuss with Fr Chazal the following statement he made in his India-Australasia Report of September 2013:

    "Interestingly, we have a clear case of marriage annulment in Bombay, a first in the resistance, if it happens. The novus ordo hesitates, because one of the spouses excluded the procreation of children, and that is not sufficient ground for them. That s typical of the new Code".
    http://www.sspx-mariancorps.com/blog/category/india

    In your last post you say that Fr de Merode is not with the USML but is a friend of it. Wasn't he elected to be the leader of the USML?

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    Where is Fr. Roland de Merode?
    « Reply #13 on: December 05, 2014, 12:09:36 AM »
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    Where is Fr. Roland de Merode?
    « Reply #14 on: December 05, 2014, 10:31:14 AM »
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  • Thank you, hugeman. I am one of the first who supported Fr Chazal and Pfeiffer in France, in 2012. I opened my website avec l'Immaculée to support them in september 2012 because Gentiloup was not happy with me on the forum un évêque s'est levé. I was too much supporting the external resistance for her.
    About the question on marriage annulment, I will look in my catechism for the reference but Fr Chazal is right.
    Yes, Fr de Merode was elected but he changed his mind soon after and it is Fr Bruno OSB who was elected after that...