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Title: Where are these priests today?
Post by: Matthew on July 17, 2015, 07:54:15 AM
Quote from: trento
Quote from: Matthew
There are too many priests in the procession at the end to even list them.
Fathers Lester ...



One name in the list left the priesthood and now works as a golf club manager. Pray for our priests!  :pray:


Does anyone know the status of these priests?

1. Fr. Lester

Fr. Gardner was in Pennsylvania for a while; but I haven't heard about him lately.

I know Fr. Fortin is part of the Fortin clan, the same clan that donated the property in Virginia for the new seminary. But, again, I can't say as I know where Fr. Fortin is.

Frs. Stafki, Lester, Magana and May I know the least about where they're posted, what they're doing today, etc.

Updates:

Fr. Fortin just made his perpetual engagement in the SSPX, and is in the Philippines.
http://sspx.org/en/news-events/news/brotherhood-priests-5730

Fr. Stafki was sent to Arcadia, CA to take over for Fr. Cooper, who has cancer.
10/24/14
http://op54rosary.ning.com/forum/topics/prayers-needed-for-sspx-priests

Fr. May is listed as the current assistant priest of this academy in Ontario, Canada:
http://fsspx.com/olmc/

Fr. Magana was listed as celebrating his "10th priestly anniversary" in August 2014:
http://sspx.org/sites/sspx/files/AUS-Distrct/pdf/rcr_july-august_2014-web.pdf


Title: Where are these priests today?
Post by: Augustine on July 17, 2015, 08:33:52 AM
Fr. Stafki is prior of the SSPX church in Arcadia.
Fr. Michael Fortin is principal of the SSPX school in Tynong, Australia
Fr. Lester, as far as I know, has left the priesthood.
Fr. Scott Gardner is usually in SSPX headquarters in Kansas City.
Fr. May is an SSPX priest working in Canada.
Title: Where are these priests today?
Post by: Capt McQuigg on July 17, 2015, 08:43:57 AM
Fr Gardner was at the St Louis Chapel and the reassignments haven't happened yet but our regular priest, Fr Jackson, has been gone for the last two Sundays.  

Do priests ever go to extended retreats?  

Title: Where are these priests today?
Post by: Matthew on July 17, 2015, 08:50:00 AM
Quote from: Augustine
Fr. Stafki is prior of the SSPX church in Arcadia.
Fr. Michael Fortin is principal of the SSPX school in Tynong, Australia
Fr. Lester, as far as I know, has left the priesthood.
Fr. Scott Gardner is usually in SSPX headquarters in Kansas City.
Fr. May is an SSPX priest working in Canada.


I had it narrowed down to Fr. Lester and maybe 1 or 2 others...

It's not exactly rocket science; just keep crossing off names as you find recent news about them in Google.

It's disturbing, scary, and breathtaking what can happen to a person in this world.

At the 2004 Ordinations, who would have thought that one of the priests being ordained would end up leaving the priesthood and managing a golf club just 10 years later? I certainly never would have thought it. I was there at the 2004 Ordinations myself. I got a first blessing from Fr. Lester and his fellow ordinands.

It just goes to show you how much we all need to stay humble, distrustful of self, and PRAY. Never slack off on our prayers, that we might persevere unto the end...
Title: Where are these priests today?
Post by: Matthew on July 17, 2015, 08:56:21 AM
Strictly speaking, though, a priest leaving the priesthood is only a couple steps down from becoming a liberal.

And plenty more priests have done that much -- thrown everything they learned (from +Williamson, for example) in the proverbial trash can.

How many have embraced a liberalized version of Tradition? How many yearn to be on good terms with Modernist Rome? How many no longer "get it" when it comes to Tradition and the Crisis in the Church?

Alas, these priests are far more numerous than those who up and leave the priesthood altogether. Who knows -- they might end up in the same place eventually, when they someday get disgusted with the reality of Modernist Rome, the Novus Ordo, the objective reality of the Crisis in the Church, etc.

When they are forced to acknowledge the objective reality (that liberalism "doesn't work", that Modern Rome is broken, etc.) will they have the humility to come back and say, "Bishop Williamson (et al.) was right -- I need to join up with them." or will their pride force them to just give up on the Faith?

Pray for them.

Title: Where are these priests today?
Post by: Charlemagne on July 17, 2015, 10:06:28 AM
Another priest that I've wondered about is Fr. Paul Tague, formerly of the El Paso SSPX. Someone told me long ago that he left the priesthood, but I haven't heard anything in years.
Title: Where are these priests today?
Post by: Meg on July 17, 2015, 10:10:25 AM
Fr. Stafki recently led the SSPX pilgrimage to the Shroud of Turin:

http://www.dici.org/en/upcoming-events/usa-shroud-of-turin-2014-pilgrimage/

I recall Fr. Stafki from when I attended the SSPX chapel near Seattle. A very saintly priest.
Title: Where are these priests today?
Post by: Augustine on July 17, 2015, 10:18:13 AM
Fr. Tague is no longer acting as a priest.
Title: Where are these priests today?
Post by: Matthew on July 17, 2015, 10:21:04 AM
Quote from: Augustine
Fr. Tague is no longer acting as a priest.


I heard this as well.

When I first moved to San Antonio, he was still saying Mass here once in a while. I got to hear maybe 3 or 4 of his sermons.
Title: Where are these priests today?
Post by: Augustine on July 17, 2015, 10:22:06 AM
also Fr. Jason Huvar left the priesthood, married and joined the military; going to Afghanistan.
Title: Where are these priests today?
Post by: Matthew on July 17, 2015, 10:24:00 AM
Never underestimate the power, the seduction, or the evil of the World, and you will do well.

The devil and the flesh are old adversaries; if you've read any spiritual books you know the scoop on those.

But the world is all around us constantly. Even if 300 fervent young Catholics went to start a "Traditional Catholic community" with a militant spirit, they would STILL be bringing a little of the world in with them -- because the World is in each one of us, to a greater or lesser degree. In this man, he might have absorbed 10%. The next guy, 30%. The one next to him, 65%.

There is an infinite variety of ideas, ways of thinking, assumptions, frames of reference, etc. that encompass the broad term, The Modern World.
Title: Where are these priests today?
Post by: Augustine on July 17, 2015, 10:33:57 AM
Apparently the haphazard "transfers', causing felt instability and, believe it or not, a lack of work for many priests is what causes serious psychological problems. Because of the lack of real "missionary" activity to the non-SSPX there is often "nothing to do" after Mass is said.
Title: Where are these priests today?
Post by: cathman7 on July 17, 2015, 12:58:48 PM
Quote from: Augustine
Apparently the haphazard "transfers', causing felt instability and, believe it or not, a lack of work for many priests is what causes serious psychological problems. Because of the lack of real "missionary" activity to the non-SSPX there is often "nothing to do" after Mass is said.


This is an astute observation. There have been priests who did real missionary work overseas and then for whatever reason were transferred back to the States and had many problems. The reasons for why priests leave the priesthood are, I am sure, more complex than what we have stated but it is such a sad thing to read when any priest leaves the priesthood.

I always wondered what ever happened to Fr. Douglas Laudenschlager who was ordained in the late 70's or early 80's. He wrote some articles for the Angelus and then seems to have fallen off the face of the map.

Pray indeed!
Title: Where are these priests today?
Post by: Matthew on July 17, 2015, 01:22:49 PM
It's sobering because if PRIESTS who spent 6-7 years in Seminary, totally dedicated to God's service can give up, then where does that leave us?

Could we give up too?

You bet. That's why it's so sobering, and we should try to draw some tidbit of good from this evil, by resolving a few things:

1. Pray your daily Rosary and stay humble, as +Williamson has been preaching at every sermon as of late
2. Pray for your priests and bishops, as they are the focus of the devil's attack -- also recommended specifically by +Williamson as of late.
3. Remember that "there but for the grace of God go I" -- if a priest can fall, it would be so much easier for YOU to fall.
Title: Where are these priests today?
Post by: waugh on July 17, 2015, 02:19:21 PM
Quote from: Augustine
Apparently the haphazard "transfers', causing felt instability and, believe it or not, a lack of work for many priests is what causes serious psychological problems. Because of the lack of real "missionary" activity to the non-SSPX there is often "nothing to do" after Mass is said.


I hardly think you would hear "lack of work" being an issue for priests, and causing "serious psychological problems."  Often, I have heard that missionarys are eventually transferred due to deteriorating health, not "haphazardly."

Priests also are known to ask for transfers themselves.
Title: Where are these priests today?
Post by: Clemens Maria on July 17, 2015, 02:19:40 PM
St. Alphonsus says that Our Lord always gives us what we ask for in the context of spiritual goods.  So in Preparation for Death he advises to always ask Our Lord for the grace of [Final/Holy] Perseverance as well as for the grace of a great love for God.  Those who do not ask for these goods are likely not to receive them.

Quote from: St. Alphonsus
All those who are in heaven are there for this one reason: They prayed, they asked for perseverance. All those who are in hell are there for this one reason: They did not pray and they did not ask the Lord for the grace of final perseverance.


Prayer to Obtain Final Perseverance

Eternal Father, I humbly adore and thank Thee, for having created me, and for having redeemed me. I thank Thee for having made me a Christian, by giving me the True Faith, and for adopting me as Thy child in baptism. I thank Thee for having given me time to repent, after my many sins, and for having pardoned all my offenses. I renew my sorrow for them, because I have displeased Thee. I thank Thee also for having preserved me from falling again, as I would have done, if Thou had not held me up, and saved me. But my enemies, do not cease fighting against me, nor will they, until I die. If Thou do not help me continually, I will lose Thy grace again. I, therefore, pray for perseverance till death. Thy Son Jesus, has promised that Thou will give us whatever we ask for in His Name. By the merits of Jesus Christ, I beg Thee, for myself and for all those who are in Thy grace, the grace of never more being separated from Thy Love. May we always love Thee in this life, and in the next.

Mary, Mother of God, pray to Jesus for me. So I hope. So may it be.

Amen
Title: Where are these priests today?
Post by: waugh on July 17, 2015, 02:22:04 PM
Augustine says:


I always wondered what ever happened to Fr. Douglas Laudenschlager who was ordained in the late 70's or early 80's. He wrote some articles for the Angelus and then seems to have fallen off the face of the map.


Fr. Douglas Laudenschlager left the priesthood a very very long time ago. I would say he needs many prayers.
Title: Where are these priests today?
Post by: wallflower on July 17, 2015, 04:03:06 PM
Quote from: Augustine
Apparently the haphazard "transfers', causing felt instability and, believe it or not, a lack of work for many priests is what causes serious psychological problems. Because of the lack of real "missionary" activity to the non-SSPX there is often "nothing to do" after Mass is said.


Hm, I have seen them mostly overworked. Hard to imagine "nothing to do" after Mass is said.

 

Title: Where are these priests today?
Post by: stgobnait on July 17, 2015, 05:25:31 PM
I believe Fr Tague and Fr Huvar spent some time in Ireland.
Title: Where are these priests today?
Post by: Ekim on July 17, 2015, 07:17:16 PM
How about Fr. Simoulin (sp?).  He was a French priest who offered Mass in VA Beach mission around 2001-2002.  I'm guessing he was about 40 years old at that time.  He spoke English verywell.  After he left VA Beach I never heard of him again.  He was very well liked and spoke admiringly of the Archbishop.

Has anyone heard of him?  Where is he?
Title: Where are these priests today?
Post by: covet truth on July 17, 2015, 08:21:24 PM
Quote from: Ekim
How about Fr. Simoulin (sp?).  He was a French priest who offered Mass in VA Beach mission around 2001-2002.  I'm guessing he was about 40 years old at that time.  He spoke English verywell.  After he left VA Beach I never heard of him again.  He was very well liked and spoke admiringly of the Archbishop.

Has anyone heard of him?  Where is he?


Father Simoulin is in France where he a chaplain in the French Navy.  The last I heard he was on their largest carrier, the Charles DeGaulle.  Sadly, I think he must be saying the N.O. Mass.  
Title: Where are these priests today?
Post by: RomanCatholic1953 on July 17, 2015, 08:47:17 PM
Does the SSPX in Arcadia, Ca., still have Mary Star of the Sea located on the
upper reservation of Fort MacArthur in San Pedro, Ca? I attended Mass there in the 1980's when Father Donohue was Pastor.
This was the former Military Chapel.
Title: Where are these priests today?
Post by: covet truth on July 18, 2015, 08:07:09 AM
Quote from: covet truth
Quote from: Ekim
How about Fr. Simoulin (sp?).  He was a French priest who offered Mass in VA Beach mission around 2001-2002.  I'm guessing he was about 40 years old at that time.  He spoke English verywell.  After he left VA Beach I never heard of him again.  He was very well liked and spoke admiringly of the Archbishop.

Has anyone heard of him?  Where is he?


Father Simoulin is in France where he a chaplain in the French Navy.  The last I heard he was on their largest carrier, the Charles DeGaulle.  Sadly, I think he must be saying the N.O. Mass.  


I also misspelled Father's name.  It is Father Eric Simonot.  
Title: Where are these priests today?
Post by: Augustine on July 18, 2015, 08:51:38 AM
These are two separate priests. Fr.Simoulin is still with the SSPX but in semi-
retirement with the Dominican teaching sisters in Fanjoux. Fr. Simonot is the one who went Novus Ordo as a navy Chaplin but I believe he was with the US Navy. Too early in the morning to remember the exact French spellings!
Title: Where are these priests today?
Post by: Augustine on July 18, 2015, 08:54:21 AM
Fr. Tague, Huvar, and Lester were all protégés of Fr. Ramon Angles.
Title: Where are these priests today?
Post by: Ekim on July 18, 2015, 09:29:52 AM
That's correct, it was Simonot.  Thank you.  I'll be sure to remember him in my Rosary.
Title: Where are these priests today?
Post by: sea leopard on July 18, 2015, 11:11:37 AM
Anyone know of Fr. Richard Welch. Ordained long ago (ABL).He was in Minn some years ago but not in the society. After years alone as a true Missionary in the early society I think he was "abandoned" by the society due to "medical" problems due to his being alone like most society Priests were in the early days. Also was in Australia maybe 8-10 yrs ago (not sspx).  Maybe still there???
Pray for him please.
Please God, Bless him and the USA.

 
Title: Where are these priests today?
Post by: Motorede on July 18, 2015, 01:34:55 PM
The correct name is WILLIAM Welsh not Richard Welsh.  Father is inactive at present. Needs all the prayers he can get.
Title: Where are these priests today?
Post by: stgobnait on July 18, 2015, 02:28:08 PM
 :pray:
Title: Where are these priests today?
Post by: compline on July 18, 2015, 07:12:26 PM
Quote from: Augustine
also Fr. Jason Huvar left the priesthood, married and joined the military; going to Afghanistan.

Jason Huvar is apparently stationed at Fort Hood, Texas now.

This link includes a picture of him in 2014 (validating that this is definitely the same Jason Huvar) story with picture (http://www.forthoodsentinel.com/story.php?id=13873).

This link describes his wife and how they met at Mass. Interesting. story with wife (http://kdhnews.com/news/a-wife-s-surprise/article_55578861-9f80-5a0c-9452-f91b11607a02.html)
Title: Where are these priests today?
Post by: wallflower on July 18, 2015, 07:50:14 PM
Quote from: compline
Quote from: Augustine
also Fr. Jason Huvar left the priesthood, married and joined the military; going to Afghanistan.

Jason Huvar is apparently stationed at Fort Hood, Texas now.

This link includes a picture of him in 2014 (validating that this is definitely the same Jason Huvar) story with picture (http://www.forthoodsentinel.com/story.php?id=13873).

This link describes his wife and how they met at Mass. Interesting. story with wife (http://kdhnews.com/news/a-wife-s-surprise/article_55578861-9f80-5a0c-9452-f91b11607a02.html)


My husband was deeply disturbed by this when it happened and he prays often for Fr Huvar.  

Joking about where they met? Yikes. Leaves a pit in your stomach. Mass is actually a great place to meet men, as long as you can keep away from the married or ordained types. :/




Title: Where are these priests today?
Post by: Matthew on July 18, 2015, 09:16:53 PM
Quote from: wallflower
Quote from: compline
Quote from: Augustine
also Fr. Jason Huvar left the priesthood, married and joined the military; going to Afghanistan.

Jason Huvar is apparently stationed at Fort Hood, Texas now.

This link includes a picture of him in 2014 (validating that this is definitely the same Jason Huvar) story with picture (http://www.forthoodsentinel.com/story.php?id=13873).

This link describes his wife and how they met at Mass. Interesting. story with wife (http://kdhnews.com/news/a-wife-s-surprise/article_55578861-9f80-5a0c-9452-f91b11607a02.html)


My husband was deeply disturbed by this when it happened and he prays often for Fr Huvar.  

Joking about where they met? Yikes. Leaves a pit in your stomach. Mass is actually a great place to meet men, as long as you can keep away from the married or ordained types. :/



Quote from: Article
FORT HOOD – A 230-mile road trip may not be a challenge for most, but it was for Michelle Huvar.
She is bound to a wheelchair by myasthenia gravis, rheumatoid arthritis and fibromyalgia, but she wanted to be at Fort Hood for her husband when he returned from a 15-month deployment to Iraq.
Sgt. Jason Huvar returned Wednesday morning with about 190 other soldiers from the 36th Engineer Brigade's 937th Engineer Company, 8th Engineer Battalion.
"I just didn't want him to be here with nobody," Michelle said before the soldiers arrived at the ceremony at Cameron Field.
Jason didn't know his wife was waiting for him.
"He's definitely going to flip," she added later.
Myasthenia gravis is an autoimmune disorder that causes muscles to tire and weaken easily, according to www.webmd.com. Michelle takes medication every four hours just so she can breathe. Fibromyalgia causes widespread muscle pain, fatigue and tenderness, according to the American College of Rheumatology.
Michelle is homebound and rested up for the trip to Fort Hood, which she made in two stages. She told Jason she'd meet him at his brother's house – halfway between Fort Hood and Clear Lake, a suburb of Houston. She then made the second stage of the trip so she could see Jason walk across the parade field. Michelle couldn't stand the thought of him not having someone to hug upon his return.
This is Jason's first deployment and the longest he and his wife have spent apart in three years of marriage. Michelle wanted her husband to know that she loved him and was proud of him.
"He just deserves so much," she said.
She planned a romantic homecoming for Jason, which included rose petals and champagne. The two met at Mass, and Michelle joked Wednesday that it was the best place to meet men. They were friends for a long time because they were too shy to confess their love for one another, Michelle said.
She will celebrate her birthday on Saturday, and he will celebrate his on July 16.


I bet they were friends when he was still a priest -- such imprudent friendship(s) probably led to his decision to give up the priesthood. Knowing human nature, that would be my guess.

Just like many divorces are born after ONE of the disaffected spouses (whose marriage has become ho-hum or even dead) finds ANOTHER to move on to. This becomes the motivation or catalyst to "put a fork in" (wrap up, end) the first marriage.

Without that concrete person to move on to, the status quo would probably be maintained much longer.

For that matter, few people leave the house one day and say, "I'm going to find someone to commit adultery with." No, they start out BECOMING FRIENDS -- IMPRUDENTLY -- WITH A MEMBER OF THE OPPOSITE SEX. After a flame is kindled (which is easy, given human nature and the way God made men and women) the decision is later made to commit adultery/get a divorce/etc.

Moral of the story: keep a guard around your heart -- so-called innocent friendships can be very dangerous if they're not proper. A man shouldn't be "friends" with any women that aren't his wife. Acquaintances or co-workers maybe -- but he must always keep a professional detachment or distance between him and any women. (Likewise for women of course).
Title: Where are these priests today?
Post by: Ekim on July 18, 2015, 09:24:23 PM
A quick search of Google Images shows a photo of Fr. Simonot in a Navy uniform.  It is NOT a U.S. Navy uniform.  I'm guessing it's French.

Title: Where are these priests today?
Post by: covet truth on July 18, 2015, 09:28:14 PM
Quote from: compline
Quote from: Augustine
also Fr. Jason Huvar left the priesthood, married and joined the military; going to Afghanistan.

Jason Huvar is apparently stationed at Fort Hood, Texas now.

This link includes a picture of him in 2014 (validating that this is definitely the same Jason Huvar) story with picture (http://www.forthoodsentinel.com/story.php?id=13873).

This link describes his wife and how they met at Mass. Interesting. story with wife (http://kdhnews.com/news/a-wife-s-surprise/article_55578861-9f80-5a0c-9452-f91b11607a02.html)


He'll always be Father Huvar to me.  She will always be a (expletive) who left her husband and went after this priest without shame or remorse for what she did.  
Title: Where are these priests today?
Post by: covet truth on July 18, 2015, 09:47:08 PM
Quote from: Ekim
A quick search of Google Images shows a photo of Fr. Simonot in a Navy uniform.  It is NOT a U.S. Navy uniform.  I'm guessing it's French.



Thanks for the tip.  I found his picture.  Yes, it's the French Navy where he is.  He's a bit grayer at the temples then when I saw him last.
Title: Where are these priests today?
Post by: Matthew on July 19, 2015, 07:18:23 AM
Quote from: covet truth
Quote from: compline
Quote from: Augustine
also Fr. Jason Huvar left the priesthood, married and joined the military; going to Afghanistan.

Jason Huvar is apparently stationed at Fort Hood, Texas now.

This link includes a picture of him in 2014 (validating that this is definitely the same Jason Huvar) story with picture (http://www.forthoodsentinel.com/story.php?id=13873).

This link describes his wife and how they met at Mass. Interesting. story with wife (http://kdhnews.com/news/a-wife-s-surprise/article_55578861-9f80-5a0c-9452-f91b11607a02.html)


He'll always be Father Huvar to me.  She will always be a (expletive) who left her husband and went after this priest without shame or remorse for what she did.  


I definitely recognize him -- he must have come to one or more Priest Meetings in Winona, MN while I was there.

I doubt she wooed him in her current state. "Myasthenia gravis is an autoimmune disorder that causes muscles to tire and weaken easily, according to www.webmd.com. Michelle takes medication every four hours just so she can breathe. Fibromyalgia causes widespread muscle pain, fatigue and tenderness."

They got married in 2006, and this article was written in 2009. So in just 3 years, her health was reduced to that degree? Wow.

Academic question: If lots of people offered prayers and Masses for Fr. Huvar, including some people close to God, what would an answer to prayer look like? HINT: God doesn't generally interfere with the normal forward flow of time, nor does He annihilate things/persons, etc.

It looks like Fr. Huvar got 15 months away from "distractions" to think about his situation. I'd say someone is praying for him. An encouraging sign to keep praying...you never know! "Dum spiro, spero" Where there's breath, there's hope.
Title: Where are these priests today?
Post by: wallflower on July 19, 2015, 08:08:15 AM
I don't know their story but I doubt many women just up and decide to "go after" a priest. What she now describes as shyness in professing their "love" (no true love seeks the spiritual destruction of the beloved) was likely actually conscience and fighting temptation at the time.

The scary truth is this kind of thing could simply be all in a day's work for a priest. They act as counselors and women tend to seek counsel more often than men. It's probably one of the most dangerous necessary occasions of sin for the priests and I am sure they are warned of it often. Then you add that people tend to fall in love with therapists since they appreciate being listened to and guided. And if the two happen to have a natural chemistry on top of that, well there you go, they find themselves in the worst of situations without even having sought it out. Both sides have to be extremely vigilant and maybe even cut off contact completely to have any hope of fighting it.

That's why the now-seen-as-archaic safeguards society used to maintain are so important. We don't have to seek out temptation to be vulnerable, the devil will bring it right to our doors any chance he gets.
     

Title: Where are these priests today?
Post by: Matthew on July 19, 2015, 08:41:23 AM
Quote from: wallflower

That's why the now-seen-as-archaic safeguards society used to maintain are so important. We don't have to seek out temptation to be vulnerable, the devil will bring it right to our doors any chance he gets.


That's why society's opinion of a given situation, defined as what is "proper" or "appropriate" was one of those safeguards. If polite society looks down on something, there is usually a reason for it.

And yes, you have to have your guard up from the beginning, and never let it down. Once you've discovered someone you really get along with and "like" on a human level, it's often too late. Even despite yourself, you would find yourself looking forward to each potential chance to see that person, etc. and basically nature would take its course. At that point, you'd have to do something drastic to cut things off completely (I'm talking about any inappropriate friendship -- any relationship that shouldn't be).

Infatuation does kind of "happen" -- it's not a rational thing.
Title: Re: Where are these priests today?
Post by: clarkaim on June 29, 2019, 03:07:03 PM
Father Huvar was the priest at my marriage 21 years ago.  I wonder how much of situations like his are a result of the contradictions inherent in t vocations of R & R priests.  He was a good man, I hope he still is.  Did he remain traditional?  Hope so.  Not my place to judge him, that belongs to Our Lord Jesus Christ.
Title: Re: Where are these priests today?
Post by: forlorn on June 29, 2019, 04:49:20 PM
For that matter, few people leave the house one day and say, "I'm going to find someone to commit adultery with." No, they start out BECOMING FRIENDS -- IMPRUDENTLY -- WITH A MEMBER OF THE OPPOSITE SEX. After a flame is kindled (which is easy, given human nature and the way God made men and women) the decision is later made to commit adultery/get a divorce/etc.

Moral of the story: keep a guard around your heart -- so-called innocent friendships can be very dangerous if they're not proper. A man shouldn't be "friends" with any women that aren't his wife. Acquaintances or co-workers maybe -- but he must always keep a professional detachment or distance between him and any women. (Likewise for women of course).
Agreed. Even when I was young and bought every modernist lie the media was telling me, I still knew that friendships between men and women were ultimately fake and that in almost every case at least one party was partially attracted to the other. I noticed this even as a kid. Statistics show that something like half of women actually have "backup men" to go to if their current relationship goes sour(I bet this statistic is much more severe if you discount religious women). These are no doubt people they insist are "just friends" and that they lead on. That same statistic also shows that men are happily willing to pretend to not be attracted to female friends so they can stay in the background waiting to jump in whenever she breaks up. It's an insane scenario, but it's very real and very common. Most people who insist male-female frienships can exist where neither party are at all attracted or tempted are either kidding themselves or have something to hide. 

You can remain polite acquaintances but married people should absolutely not have friendships with members of the opposite sex. It can only lead to trouble.