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Where are the SSJ members today?
« on: December 14, 2017, 03:38:31 PM »
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  • (If I missed anyone or if you have updated info, please advise.)


    Fr. Urutigoity (ringleader):
    removed as vicar general  (second in command of the diocese) in cuidad el este, argentina, last I heard (2014).  He currently has no ministerial assignment, and resides somewhere in the Diocese of Ciudad del Este, according to a diocesan spokesperson. He remains a priest in good standing.  Photographed in a children's missal: https://michaelbaumann.wordpress.com/tag/st-john-society/
    https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0974174815/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=0974174815&linkCode=as2&tag=httpwwwchanco-20 />
    Fr. Dominic Carey:
    replaced Fr. Urutigoity as vicar general.  Carey, a Canadian whose affiliation with the SSJ dates back to the early 1990s, before the group was ousted from the Society of St. Pius X and settled in Scranton, Pennsylvania, would go on to become the SSJ’s main fundraiser.  He still listed as vicar general in cuided el este, argentina.

    Fr. Eric Ensey (second ringleader):
    MIA since 2014
    thought to be living in Rome and California as late as 2007.  In 2011, the Vancouver Sun reported that for the previous five years a Vancouver priest, John Horgan, had been soliciting donations from parishioners for the Society of St. John in Paraguay—at Ensey’s behest.  Ensey filed for bankruptcy in 2004; the case was terminated in 2010. His latest attorney of record reported that he has not had “any contact with him in years.” Ensey apparently maintains a P.O. box outside Scranton. After exhausting his appeals in the canonical case against him that began a decade ago, Ensey was finally laicized in 2014.

    Fr. Dominic O’Connor:
    original members of the Society of St. John who succeeded Urrutigoity as superior of the Society of St. John, asked Bishop Martino for permission to relocate to the Diocese of Nottingham in 2005. He remains there still.  http://lmslincolnshire.blogspot.com/p/recent-high-mass-at-louth.html

    Fr. Daniel Fullerton:
    became superior general after O’Connor, received Martino’s permission to serve as a chaplain to the U.S Navy.

    Fr. Joseph Levine:
    another former superior general of the SSJ, sought ordination as a priest of the Diocese of Scranton. But Martino was not comfortable with Levine’s “generous verbal excuses for the conduct of some members of the Society of St. John."  Levine was eventually assigned to a parish in Philadelphia, but his public support of the SSJ caused “quite a stir,” according to Martino, and he had to be moved to another parish—where the same thing happened. Levine decided to seek ordination to the priesthood in the Diocese of Paterson, New Jersey, but an open letter to the bishop brought that plan to a halt. Levine was eventually ordained a priest, and he now serves as pastor of a parish in the Diocese of Baker, Oregon.  https://stpeterstd.org/about-us/#staff

    Fr. Marshall Roberts:
    early member of the SSJ, vacated the Diocese of Scranton without permission, became the pastor of a group in Jacksonville, Florida, was kicked out, and is now in Boston, KY.  (search cathinfo for info on him)

    Fr. Basel Sarweh:
    early member of the SSJ, asked to be dispensed from the clerical state in 2006.

    Fr. Anthony Myers:
    When he worked with the SSJ in Scranton, he was Br. Anthony Myers.  Myers moved to Ciudad del Este with other SSJs and was ordained by Livieres in 2006. He authored several of the Society’s newsletters after the group had reestablished itself in Paraguay. But it seems that Myers no longer exercises his ministry exclusively in Ciudad del Este. In late 2013, he posted a video to YouTube seeking financial support for a new endeavor—a co-ed bilingual K-12 school on the outskirts of Buenos Aires.   https://performasports.com/case-studies/post.php?s=2017-05-08-presidente-franco-rugby-club

    Fr. Paul Carr:
    ordained a FSSP priest in 1992 and served as a member of the faculty at the FSSP’s Our Lady of Guadeloupe Seminary and a chaplain at St. Gregory’s Academy (where the SSJ began). In 2000, Carr became the District Superior of the North American FSSP and was succeeded by Fr. George Gabet.


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    Re: Where are the SSJ members today?
    « Reply #1 on: December 15, 2017, 10:33:04 AM »
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  • I nearly joined this group. I met them when they were still at St. Gregory’s Academy. I went to Shohola the following year, with many reservations after reading things about them. I spent one night at the new residence and what I saw and heard (I will not bear repeating) was enough to make me leave the very next day. All of the postulants that arrived around the same time as I did all ended up leaving within a few weeks, I was later told. I flew across the continent one day (Alberta to PA) and the next day, having been given a ride by a young gentlemen on his way to Philly, flew out to California to visit with an elderly Italian trad couple I met years before. I needed time to unwind and ponder possibilities before returning home. Thanks to our Lord, His Mother and my guardian angels, I was spared.
    Da pacem Domine in diebus nostris
    Qui non est alius
    Qui pugnet pro nobis
    Nisi  tu Deus noster


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    Re: Where are the SSJ members today?
    « Reply #2 on: December 15, 2017, 02:04:27 PM »
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  • I nearly joined this group. I met them when they were still at St. Gregory’s Academy. I went to Shohola the following year, with many reservations after reading things about them. I spent one night at the new residence and what I saw and heard (I will not bear repeating) was enough to make me leave the very next day. All of the postulants that arrived around the same time as I did all ended up leaving within a few weeks, I was later told. I flew across the continent one day (Alberta to PA) and the next day, having been given a ride by a young gentlemen on his way to Philly, flew out to California to visit with an elderly Italian trad couple I met years before. I needed time to unwind and ponder possibilities before returning home. Thanks to our Lord, His Mother and my guardian angels, I was spared.
    You could tell after one day there was something wrong with the place.  For anyone to spend any length of time there is either very naive or a pervert themselves. 
    Birds of a feather tend to flock together.

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    Re: Where are the SSJ members today?
    « Reply #3 on: May 18, 2018, 04:03:51 PM »
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  • The moderator updated the list and removed a Fr. Christopher Clay, who i have been told is not Fr. Catsby Christopher Clay from KY(!).

    Fr. Christopher Clay was with the SSJ.

    My four attempts to verify the lineage of fr. Catsby Christopher Clay, via email and phone messages to his secretary, fell on deaf ears.  Leads me to believe it is one and the same priest, but the person who contacted me says absolutely not.

    I leave confused.

    As of 2012, Fr. Chris Clay was in the Fort Worth, TX, area and not allowed to present himself as a priest anywhere:
    http://www.bishop-accountability.org/news13/2012_01_25_Watson_OurMother_Christopher_Clay_7.htm

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    Re: Where are the SSJ members today?
    « Reply #4 on: May 19, 2018, 03:14:56 AM »
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    Fr. Urutigoity (ringleader):
    removed as vicar general  (second in command of the diocese) in cuidad el este, argentina, last I heard (2014).  He currently has no ministerial assignment, and resides somewhere in the Diocese of Ciudad del Este, according to a diocesan spokesperson. He remains a priest in good standing.  Photographed in a children's missal: https://michaelbaumann.wordpress.com/tag/st-john-society/
    https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0974174815/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=0974174815&linkCode=as2&tag=httpwwwchanco-20 />
    Fr. Dominic Carey:
    replaced Fr. Urutigoity as vicar general.  Carey, a Canadian whose affiliation with the SSJ dates back to the early 1990s, before the group was ousted from the Society of St. Pius X and settled in Scranton, Pennsylvania, would go on to become the SSJ’s main fundraiser.  He still listed as vicar general in cuided el este, argentina.

    Fr. Eric Ensey (second ringleader):
    MIA since 2014
    thought to be living in Rome and California as late as 2007.  In 2011, the Vancouver Sun reported that for the previous five years a Vancouver priest, John Horgan, had been soliciting donations from parishioners for the Society of St. John in Paraguay—at Ensey’s behest.  Ensey filed for bankruptcy in 2004; the case was terminated in 2010. His latest attorney of record reported that he has not had “any contact with him in years.” Ensey apparently maintains a P.O. box outside Scranton. After exhausting his appeals in the canonical case against him that began a decade ago, Ensey was finally laicized in 2014.

    Fr. Dominic O’Connor:
    original members of the Society of St. John who succeeded Urrutigoity as superior of the Society of St. John, asked Bishop Martino for permission to relocate to the Diocese of Nottingham in 2005. He remains there still.  http://lmslincolnshire.blogspot.com/p/recent-high-mass-at-louth.html

    Fr. Daniel Fullerton:
    became superior general after O’Connor, received Martino’s permission to serve as a chaplain to the U.S Navy.

    Fr. Joseph Levine:
    another former superior general of the SSJ, sought ordination as a priest of the Diocese of Scranton. But Martino was not comfortable with Levine’s “generous verbal excuses for the conduct of some members of the Society of St. John."  Levine was eventually assigned to a parish in Philadelphia, but his public support of the SSJ caused “quite a stir,” according to Martino, and he had to be moved to another parish—where the same thing happened. Levine decided to seek ordination to the priesthood in the Diocese of Paterson, New Jersey, but an open letter to the bishop brought that plan to a halt. Levine was eventually ordained a priest, and he now serves as pastor of a parish in the Diocese of Baker, Oregon.  https://stpeterstd.org/about-us/#staff

    Fr. Marshall Roberts:
    early member of the SSJ, vacated the Diocese of Scranton without permission, became the pastor of a group in Jacksonville, Florida, was kicked out, and is now in Boston, KY.  (search cathinfo for info on him)

    Fr. Basel Sarweh:
    early member of the SSJ, asked to be dispensed from the clerical state in 2006.

    Fr. Anthony Myers:
    When he worked with the SSJ in Scranton, he was Br. Anthony Myers.  Myers moved to Ciudad del Este with other SSJs and was ordained by Livieres in 2006. He authored several of the Society’s newsletters after the group had reestablished itself in Paraguay. But it seems that Myers no longer exercises his ministry exclusively in Ciudad del Este. In late 2013, he posted a video to YouTube seeking financial support for a new endeavor—a co-ed bilingual K-12 school on the outskirts of Buenos Aires.   https://performasports.com/case-studies/post.php?s=2017-05-08-presidente-franco-rugby-club

    Fr. Paul Carr:
    ordained a FSSP priest in 1992 and served as a member of the faculty at the FSSP’s Our Lady of Guadeloupe Seminary and a chaplain at St. Gregory’s Academy (where the SSJ began). In 2000, Carr became the District Superior of the North American FSSP and was succeeded by Fr. George Gabet.
    Fr Paul Carr was ordained by the SSPX in 1992. He then moved over to the FSSP.
    Some years ago I heard that he was with the local Novus Ordo diocese but living at his family home in England. How true this was I cannot say


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    Re: Where are the SSJ members today?
    « Reply #5 on: May 19, 2018, 10:09:59 AM »
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  • AJNC,

    Fr. Paul Carr was never ordained for the SSPX.

    Here is the ordination class for 1992 in Winona: 

    http://stas.org/sites/sspx/files/v046_sum1992.pdf

    Unless you are arguing he was ordained in one of the other seminaries of the SSPX. 

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    Re: Where are the SSJ members today?
    « Reply #6 on: May 19, 2018, 12:46:02 PM »
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  • AJNC,

    Fr. Paul Carr was never ordained for the SSPX.

    Here is the ordination class for 1992 in Winona:

    http://stas.org/sites/sspx/files/v046_sum1992.pdf

    Unless you are arguing he was ordained in one of the other seminaries of the SSPX.
    I believe he was ordained in Econe. He was stationed at St Michael's School, Burghclere and was for a time the Chaplain of the Eucharistic Crusade of SSPX GB
    He was transferred to Manila and this was the beginning of his end in the SSPX. 
    I met him personally in 1992 when he was an SSPX priest 

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    Re: Where are the SSJ members today?
    « Reply #7 on: May 19, 2018, 02:51:55 PM »
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  • Thank you. I stand corrected then. 


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    Re: Where are the SSJ members today?
    « Reply #8 on: May 19, 2018, 02:53:32 PM »
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  • You are right: 


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    In 1993, the community was reinforced by the coming of the Fathers: Roland de Merode, Paul Carr, Arnaud Rostand and Thomas Onoda. Basically, Fr. de Merode took the mission trips of Singapore, Malaysia and Sri Lanka. Fr. Onoda was in charge of Japan and South Korea. Fr. Rostand went regularly to Hong Kong while Fr. Carr helped Fr. Morgan with another group of faithful in Iloilo City and Koronal City in Mindanao. Later that year, a lot was bought in New Manila and the construction of the Church and the Priory began immediately. Unfortunately, these constructions had to be stopped and begun again on three occasions due to lack of funds.
    http://www.sspxafrica.com/docuмents/2006_May/Church_in_the_Philippines.htm

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    Re: Where are the SSJ members today?
    « Reply #9 on: May 19, 2018, 03:13:12 PM »
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  • Ciudad del Este is in Paraguay, not in Argentina. Urrutigoity Living in city Saint Raphael, province of Mendoza (Argentina) post dead "bishop" Livieres.

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    Re: Where are the SSJ members today?
    « Reply #10 on: May 20, 2018, 03:05:40 AM »
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  • There was a very pious seminarian at SSJ named James Lane.  Does anyone know anything about him?  Whatever became of him?  Is he now a Traditional priest somewhere? 


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    Re: Where are the SSJ members today?
    « Reply #11 on: May 20, 2018, 07:56:54 AM »
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  • There was a very pious seminarian at SSJ named James Lane.  Does anyone know anything about him?  Whatever became of him?  Is he now a Traditional priest somewhere?
    Is this him?

    Ordained 2009.
    Was at St. Anne's Byzantine in San Luis Obispo, Ca

    Seems to be now at St. George Byzantine in Olympia, WA
    https://thecatholictravelguide.com/destinations/u-s-a/olympia-washington-shrine-lady-perpetual-help/

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    Re: Where are the SSJ members today?
    « Reply #12 on: November 01, 2018, 05:36:40 AM »
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  • This is just one addendum to what was posted about where the most culpable members of the notoriously sinister SSJ institute went.

    It is seldom, if ever, adverted to that along with Carlos Urrutigoity,  Daniel Fullerton was the most influential person in that group and he continually affected the tone of things therein.

    While testimonies of perversions regarding students at St. Gregory's Academy emphasized Urrutigoity and Ensey in successful civil law-suits proceedings against the institute, along with the diocese of Scranton and the Fraternity of St. Peter for having supported the SSJ's, Daniel Fullerton somehow remained marginal.

    Remarkably, Fullerton went on to his present status, a chaplain in the Navy in the area of the notoriously 'gαy' San Diego.  https://www.1stmardiv.marines.mil/Units/3D-AA-BN/Chaplain/

    While we have many, many honorable persons serving in the military, one should never forget how politicians have not only permitted, but encouraged a ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ presence therein.


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    Re: Where are the SSJ members today?
    « Reply #13 on: November 01, 2018, 08:54:00 AM »
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  • Father Daniel Fullerton is the one from among the entire group who would surprise me if he had ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ inclinations.  I knew him at the seminary, and he was very much a man's man.  As his military profile indicates, he was a rugged guy and not the least bit prone to the tendencies shared by nearly all the SSJ types.  He was somewhat disgruntled, though, about being overworked by the SSPX, and having his health suffer, and I suspect that is why he went along with the SSJ, for the promise of a more balanced life.

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    Re: Where are the SSJ members today?
    « Reply #14 on: November 01, 2018, 02:59:04 PM »
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  • Actually, I had asked the moderator to remove the sentence alleging that Fr. Fullerton had actually assaulted someone, since that information, it turns out, was totally unsubstantiated.

    However, your assertion that a person is likely not ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ or with such traits because he or she is athletic and with an impressive constitution and strong build is not realistic.

    Unending numbers of ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖs are body-builders and frequent gyms as well as practice all sorts of sports, including weight-lifting.