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Offline rlee

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I notice that Bishop Fellay is no longer listed as a speaker in the upcoming Fatima Conference. Anybody know why?


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When did Fellays name drop out of the Fatima Conference Speakers List
« Reply #1 on: July 31, 2013, 09:25:44 PM »
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  • Did you see the latest mailings from Fr. Gruner?  See, he was to be at that conference.  I let Catholic Family news know how I felt about the set-up.  Now Gruner is saying in his letters that the devil is against his efforts.  I asked which side of the fence he is on.  I let them all know no $!


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    When did Fellays name drop out of the Fatima Conference Speakers List
    « Reply #2 on: August 01, 2013, 12:09:03 AM »
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  • I am not sure I fully understand your post.

    What should I see when I look at the latest promotional material?

    I know of several fine traditional Catholics that are quite disappointed in this conference, especially the selection of some of the speakers, which Fatima Center has had to go to great lengths to defend in their selection.

    Is there a shortage of good traditional participants for such a meeting that there has to be any whiffs of controversy about the ones selected?

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    When did Fellays name drop out of the Fatima Conference Speakers List
    « Reply #3 on: August 01, 2013, 12:32:53 AM »
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  • I think I might know why.  :smirk:

    [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/embed/RGnstoua3hY?feature=player_detailpage[/youtube]

    You hold an heretical position, according to a guy with multiple degrees...



    I don't think you'd like to get anywhere near him if you didn't think you did anything wrong.

    Just what methinks.
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    Offline Charlotte NC Bill

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    When did Fellays name drop out of the Fatima Conference Speakers List
    « Reply #4 on: August 01, 2013, 04:29:57 AM »
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  • Quote from: rlee
    I notice that Bishop Fellay is no longer listed as a speaker in the upcoming Fatima Conference. Anybody know why?

    Maybe he was afraid tthe bldg might come down around him?
    Maybe Maxie Krah. point man for the crypto-Jєω Jaidhofer Foundation $$, advised against appearing? Or...
    Maybe he's thinking of stepping down soon?


    Offline Neil Obstat

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    « Reply #5 on: August 01, 2013, 04:57:09 AM »
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  • .

    This is an interesting question for me, because I have several friends
    who follow Fr. Gruner's announcements pretty closely, and when I
    mentioned to them last week that Bishop Fellay was scheduled to
    be at the September conference in Niagara Falls, they said that no,
    he's not on the roster, and he has never been on it.  

    I found that odd, so I went to check the Internet and his name was
    not there anymore.  Then I thought I must have had made a mistake
    and I had no way of checking what happened.  

    Does anyone have any old webshots of the Fatima conference ad
    page when +Fellay was showing as a scheduled speaker?  It may
    have only been for a few weeks that it was showing that way.  

    Last year, when I asked Fr. Gruner a question that had to do with
    +F, he passed it off without giving any real answer, in front of a few
    hundred people.  I thought that was a bit strange, too.  


    Quote from: Charlotte NC Bill
    Quote from: rlee
    I notice that Bishop Fellay is no longer listed as a speaker in the upcoming Fatima Conference. Anybody know why?

    ...
    Maybe he's thinking of stepping down soon?



    Dream on!      :sleep:       Pleasant dreams!!   :laugh2:



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    When did Fellays name drop out of the Fatima Conference Speakers List
    « Reply #6 on: August 01, 2013, 06:18:08 AM »
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  • I also saw lists showing Bp. F to be the main speaker  ....but he did seem out of place among the others. Fr. Gruner will find it difficult trying to straddle the various trad divisions and those closer to Rome may not wish to go out on a limb by being seen in the company of alternative Fatima promoters. Bp. F's preferred company these days would be conservative mainstream bishops and conservative establishment figures. Anyone that would help 'rehabilitate' the Society.  

    Offline Neil Obstat

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    « Reply #7 on: August 01, 2013, 07:01:48 AM »
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  • Quote from: Wessex
    I also saw lists showing Bp. F to be the main speaker  ....but he did seem out of place among the others. Fr. Gruner will find it difficult trying to straddle the various trad divisions and those closer to Rome may not wish to go out on a limb by being seen in the company of alternative Fatima promoters. Bp. F's preferred company these days would be conservative mainstream bishops and conservative establishment figures. Anyone that would help 'rehabilitate' the Society.  


    "Those closer to Rome may not wish to go out on a limb by
    being seen in the company of alternative Fatima promoters."

    One would think!  

    Do a quick search and see there are not a few websites with this
    announcement that +F was planning to attend as a scheduled
    speaker, such as the following:

    http://www.cogwriter.com/news/prophecy/messages-from-lady-of-fatima-allegedly-given-on-june13-1917/

    ...
    Notice also something from the Fatima Center:

        The Superior General of the Society of St. Pius X, Bishop Bernard Fellay, has confirmed that he will attend “Fatima: The Path To Peace!” Bishop Fellay joins a growing number of prominent speakers that includes Dr. Ron Paul, Lt. Gen. Romeo Dallaire, Pro-Life warrior Joe Scheidler, investigative journalist Peter Lance, Esq. and several other prominent figures in Church, State and media – at least 24 speakers in all. (See: http://www.fatimathepathtopeace.org for conference brochure and list of speakers to date.) “Fatima: The Path To Peace!” is developing into a summit meeting of historic dimensions. Set for Niagara Falls, Canada, from September 8 through September 13, 2013, the conference will examine the nature of the crises that confront our world and the utter failure of every political and economic solution that has been tried – or can be tried.

        Our Lady of Fatima said, “Only I can help you.”  And Our Lady told us what we have to do to obtain that help:  the Pope and the bishops, together, must consecrate Russia to Her Immaculate Heart.  When this is done, Our Lady promises the conversion of Russia, the end of wars and a period of world peace.
    ...


    Then, try to find any websites offering an explanation of why his
    name is now missing from the most current list -- I can't find any.
    This would be typical of +Fellay's modus operandi -- when something
    proves inconvenient, just back off, quietly, and hope nobody notices.
    Make no announcement of the change, because if you were to
    openly admit that you've changed your plans then people will start
    to think about it and you don't want them thinking about it.  

    FUGGETABOUDIT!  

    ...like the mob says in the Bronx.  



    Therefore, HEBF confirms that he will be attending the Conference,
    then a few weeks later, he's not answering questions and his name
    has been removed from the list of speakers.  

    Is anyone surprised?  

    Since when does HEBF do what he says he'll do, or abide by things
    he said he believes, or make good on an oath -- unless it serves his
    agenda?   When something becomes inconvenient, he skips out.  

    I have to wonder how a flake like that could ever become SG in the
    first place, let alone get re-elected!  


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    When did Fellays name drop out of the Fatima Conference Speakers List
    « Reply #8 on: August 01, 2013, 07:08:06 AM »
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  • Quote from: Neil Obstat
    Does anyone have any old webshots of the Fatima conference ad
    page when +Fellay was showing as a scheduled speaker?  It may
    have only been for a few weeks that it was showing that way.  


    Not a screenshot, but here is a copy & paste, with the picture they had of +F pasted in.  I took the photo of +F straight from the Fatima Conference page; here is the address:

    http://www.fatimathepathtopeace.org/images/speakers_pictures/Bishop_Fellay.jpg


    Offline cathman7

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    « Reply #9 on: August 01, 2013, 07:13:07 AM »
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  • I also couldn't see Bp. Fellay on the same platform as Roberto Fiore.

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    « Reply #10 on: August 01, 2013, 08:14:15 AM »
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  • Quote from: obscurus
    I also couldn't see Bp. Fellay on the same platform as Roberto Fiore.


    I must say, this is the first thing that occurred to me.
    "Be kind; do not seek the malicious satisfaction of having discovered an additional enemy to the Church... And, above all, be scrupulously truthful. To all, friends and foes alike, give that serious attention which does not misrepresent any opinion, does not distort any statement, does not mutilate any quotation. We need not fear to serve the cause of Christ less efficiently by putting on His spirit". (Vermeersch, 1913).


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    « Reply #11 on: August 01, 2013, 08:22:14 AM »
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  • Here is an earlier thread on the matter.
    "Be kind; do not seek the malicious satisfaction of having discovered an additional enemy to the Church... And, above all, be scrupulously truthful. To all, friends and foes alike, give that serious attention which does not misrepresent any opinion, does not distort any statement, does not mutilate any quotation. We need not fear to serve the cause of Christ less efficiently by putting on His spirit". (Vermeersch, 1913).

    Offline PAT317

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    « Reply #12 on: August 01, 2013, 08:36:54 AM »
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  • Quote from: Mithrandylan
    Here is an earlier thread on the matter.


    Yes, that's the beginning of the thread I mentioned here:

    Quote from: PAT317
    Quote from: Neil Obstat
    Does anyone have any old webshots of the Fatima conference ad
    page when +Fellay was showing as a scheduled speaker?  It may
    have only been for a few weeks that it was showing that way.  


    Not a screenshot, but here is a copy & paste, with the picture they had of +F pasted in.  I took the photo of +F straight from the Fatima Conference page; here is the address:

    http://www.fatimathepathtopeace.org/images/speakers_pictures/Bishop_Fellay.jpg



    As long as that +F photo is still at that address, it shows that at least at one point, +F was supposed to be a speaker.  

    Quote from: Mithrandylan
    Quote from: obscurus
    I also couldn't see Bp. Fellay on the same platform as Roberto Fiore.


    I must say, this is the first thing that occurred to me.


    My thought exactly:

    Quote from: PAT317
    Now that is interesting.  Bishop Fellay and Roberto Fiore speaking at the same event.
    Posted Jun 4, 2013, 6:06 pm

    Offline Neil Obstat

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    « Reply #13 on: August 01, 2013, 08:43:49 AM »
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  • Quote from: PAT317
    Quote from: Neil Obstat
    Does anyone have any old webshots of the Fatima conference ad
    page when +Fellay was showing as a scheduled speaker?  It may
    have only been for a few weeks that it was showing that way.  


    Not a screenshot, but here is a copy&paste, with the picture they had of +F pasted in.  I took the photo of +F straight from the Fatima Conference page; here is the address:

    http://www.fatimathepathtopeace.org/images/speakers_pictures/Bishop_Fellay.jpg




    Thanks, PAT317.  I recall seeing that +F's picture was not part of the
    webpage like other pictures, almost as if they wanted to keep it from
    becoming difficult to remove or look too 'permanent' or something.


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    « Reply #14 on: August 01, 2013, 09:07:43 AM »
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