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Offline Cantarella

Re: What would it take to resolve the crisis?
« Reply #25 on: October 22, 2018, 11:42:33 PM »
A complete rehabilitation of the Catholic doctrine of No Salvation Outside the Church. Because it was the weakening of this dogma which paved the way for the novel doctrines of religious liberty, ecuŠ¼enism, "human dignity", cordial dialogue and unity with the world, and many other contradictions to the True Faith.

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Once the doctrine No Salvation Outside the Church is denied, many terrible problems will beset the Church. People will not think to trace these problems back to the denial of this doctrine; they will not see it, but this is the cause.

~ Fr. Feeney


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Offline Stanley N

Re: What would it take to resolve the crisis?
« Reply #26 on: October 27, 2018, 12:04:05 PM »
I started this thread and I think it's time for a refocus. I was interested in knowing what it would take for you and the hierarchy to be in "full communion" with each other. Thank you MMagdala for a detailed list. That's what I had in mind. I also have several issues I would expect to be addressed.

Nevertheless, an orthodox Rome might not do everything just as we want. What would and wouldn't be critical?

I have met some traditionalist Catholics who focus on certain issues to the point that that I wondered if they would accept a Rome that didn't exactly fit their flavor of orthodoxy.
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Offline 2Vermont

Re: What would it take to resolve the crisis?
« Reply #27 on: October 27, 2018, 01:07:28 PM »
Quote from: Stanley N on October 27, 2018, 12:04:05 PM
I started this thread and I think it's time for a refocus. I was interested in knowing what it would take for you and the hierarchy to be in "full communion" with each other. Thank you MMagdala for a detailed list. That's what I had in mind. I also have several issues I would expect to be addressed.

Nevertheless, an orthodox Rome might not do everything just as we want. What would and wouldn't be critical?

I have met some traditionalist Catholics who focus on certain issues to the point that that I wondered if they would accept a Rome that didn't exactly fit their flavor of orthodoxy.
It's never been about what "we want" (or at least it shouldn't be).  An "orthodox Rome" will bring us back to before the apostasy, before Vatican II.  I did not read everything listed by MMagdala but everything seemed to relate to what came before Vatican II.  Pre-Vatican II Canon Law, pre-Vatican II Sacraments, Pre-Vatican II Catechisms, pre-Vatican II Rites, etc, etc.
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Offline Bellato

Re: What would it take to resolve the crisis?
« Reply #28 on: October 27, 2018, 01:35:46 PM »
Quote from: Recusant Sede on October 17, 2018, 04:21:01 PM
Simply, all you need is a true pope.
THIS!  The Church is hierarchical and the ruler is the Pope.
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Offline songbird

Re: What would it take to resolve the crisis?
« Reply #29 on: October 27, 2018, 02:32:07 PM »
Vatican I, a true council, defines a true pope.  So, read and understand Vatican I.  And Vatican I was never finished.  Go figure!
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