Author Topic: What Will You Do? (Read 4648 times)

Raphael · « **on:** June 27, 2016, 08:01:06 PM »

For those of you who still attend the SSPX's Masses, will you still attend if they go under Rome (Personal Prelature, Canonical Recognition)?

If yes, are you "selling out" your Faith? Are you part of Ecclesia Dei, the very Institution that Archbishop Lefebvre warned us (laymen) about?

If no, where are you going to go to Mass, receive the Sacraments (seeing how the Resistance priest's Masses are few and far between)?

Sienna629 · « **Reply #1 on:** June 27, 2016, 08:17:10 PM »

Quote from: Raphael

For those of you who still attend the SSPX's Masses, will you still attend if they go under Rome (Personal Prelature, Canonical Recognition)?

If yes, are you "selling out" your Faith? Are you part of Ecclesia Dei, the very Institution that Archbishop Lefebvre warned us (laymen) about?

If no, where are you going to go to Mass, receive the Sacraments (seeing how the Resistance priest's Masses are few and far between)?

I think there will be some big changes if the Society goes under Rome, since I personally think it as a trap with big red flags around it. Some may choose to see how things play out first at their individual Chapel, rather than make a snap decision, like:

1) How fast will the Diocesan bishops start wielding their new power?

2) Will they close your current Chapel?

3) Will your current Chapel priest follow +Fellay or will he split from the Society?

Raphael · « **Reply #2 on:** June 27, 2016, 08:29:57 PM »

Meaning you'll sick around for awhile, Sienna, until 1, 2, and 3 tell you what you need to know to leave? Where would you go from there?

noOneImportant · « **Reply #3 on:** June 27, 2016, 09:11:32 PM »

Quote from: Raphael

For those of you who still attend the SSPX's Masses, will you still attend if they go under Rome (Personal Prelature, Canonical Recognition)?

Yes I will still attend, because ultimately, what matters is saving my soul, and that will not happen if I am not attending the sacraments when they are readily available to me.

hollingsworth · « **Reply #4 on:** June 27, 2016, 09:26:22 PM »

no one:

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Yes I will still attend, because ultimately, what matters is saving my soul, and that will not happen if I am not attending the sacraments when they are readily available to me.

This kind of thinking drives me crazy. 'No one' will lose his soul, he says, if he does not attend the "sacraments" "readily available to him." So then whatever kind of trad setup is available to a Catholic in his locality, it should serve to insure the salvation of that Catholic's soul. This is not the kind of thinking that prevailed in the days of early SSPX under Lefebvre. Then, people were reacting to the errors of Rome. Their decisions then were based upon an unwillingness to go along with an apostate Church.
but 'no one,' apparently, just lets all that go by the board, in the interests of saving his own soul.

Matto · « **Reply #5 on:** June 27, 2016, 09:35:33 PM »

If the society makes a deal selling out to Rome, I will probably investigate the independent traditional Catholic chapel in Bayside, Our Lady of La Salette.

TheRealMcCoy · « **Reply #6 on:** June 27, 2016, 09:52:46 PM »

Last Sunday we got a weird sermon with an admonition not to complain about being a mission. It seemed like it could have been priming for a trimming of masses from every Sunday to less frequent. Not sure.

My family is prepared for the recognition to be announced. Once that happens we will not go to Mass there anymore but will sanctify Sundays at home. We will go to Confession if we are in need of it but won't attend Mass.

We will be home aloners. I've done it before and I will do it again. God is good.

noOneImportant · « **Reply #7 on:** June 27, 2016, 10:05:06 PM »

Quote from: hollingsworth

no one:
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Yes I will still attend, because ultimately, what matters is saving my soul, and that will not happen if I am not attending the sacraments when they are readily available to me.

This kind of thinking drives me crazy. 'No one' will lose his soul, he says, if he does not attend the "sacraments" "readily available to him." So then whatever kind of trad setup is available to a Catholic in his locality, it should serve to insure the salvation of that Catholic's soul. This is not the kind of thinking that prevailed in the days of early SSPX under Lefebvre. Then, people were reacting to the errors of Rome. Their decisions then were based upon an unwillingness to go along with an apostate Church.
but 'no one,' apparently, just lets all that go by the board, in the interests of saving his own soul.

It drives you crazy that I think I am more likely to save my soul by regularly attending mass rather than sitting at home on Sundays? To each their own I guess.

noOneImportant · « **Reply #8 on:** June 27, 2016, 10:17:14 PM »

I suppose I should elaborate. I don't necessarily agree that some sort of "agreement" with Rome is a good idea. I will admit that there are many ways it could go wrong, and there are some strong reasons not to do so, but the fact of the matter is that it is above my pay grade, so to speak.

And whether or not it happens, it will not change the validity of the SSPX's masses, nor is it likely to adversely impact their ability to confer Sanctifying Grace, nor are the priests going to spontaneously start preaching heresy and modernism from the pulpit. So given all of that, why would I not avail myself of the grace of attending mass?

As someone stated in another thread a week or two back, attending mass is not a political statement, and my attendance at the mass of a "reconciled" SSPX would not be a statement of acceptance of Modernism or VII, or anything similar. It would simply be a Catholic attending mass to attempt to sanctify his soul, same as it was last Sunday.

MyrnaM · « **Reply #9 on:** June 27, 2016, 11:40:24 PM »

Too much is happening these days, Economic Collapse, nєω ωσrℓ∂ σr∂єr, EU and Brexit, Planet X coming in, now the SSPX falling apart.
This is a good question … what are we going to do?

Guardian Angel · « **Reply #10 on:** June 28, 2016, 04:48:27 AM »

You shouldn't be attending SSPX Masses even now. A man who plans to commit adultery is guilty of adultery even though he hasn't engaged in the act yet. The SSPX is already guilty of spiritual adultery with Modernist Rome.

AJNC · « **Reply #11 on:** June 28, 2016, 08:12:46 AM »

I'm in a unique case. I quit the SSPX for an Independent priest but, when a second Indian priest was added to the previously one-man India team, I decided - actually more my wife - to do our patriotic show and swing fully to the Resistance. But old enemities die hard. I am not welcome there. Why? Because, as a Resistance priest supposedly told an SSPX one, who told me: I went for a Resistance Mass with a camera. I sat at the back. I did not receive Holy Communion. Therefore, I'm a spy. It was the first Mass of Fr Sunil in my town, and my pictures of the event, although not very good quality, are the only ones of the event on the net.

Since the shelf life of the independent priest's ministry is almost at an end I am back with the SSPX. I sit at the back. And I sometimes do not receive Holy Communion. One of my blockers at the Resistance Mass sometimes also attends the SSPX Masses, all toothy smiles and all. But she has stopped trying to break up the SSPX chapel as she was previously doing ( according to the co-ordinator and another faithful) because there is now the spy to contend with.

What will I do? No idea at present.

MyrnaM · « **Reply #12 on:** June 28, 2016, 10:59:58 AM »

Quote from: AJNC

I'm in a unique case. I quit the SSPX for an Independent priest but, when a second Indian priest was added to the previously one-man India team, I decided - actually more my wife - to do our patriotic show and swing fully to the Resistance. But old enemities die hard. I am not welcome there. Why? Because, as a Resistance priest supposedly told an SSPX one, who told me: I went for a Resistance Mass with a camera. I sat at the back. I did not receive Holy Communion. Therefore, I'm a spy. It was the first Mass of Fr Sunil in my town, and my pictures of the event, although not very good quality, are the only ones of the event on the net.

Since the shelf life of the independent priest's ministry is almost at an end I am back with the SSPX. I sit at the back. And I sometimes do not receive Holy Communion. One of my blockers at the Resistance Mass sometimes also attends the SSPX Masses, all toothy smiles and all. But she has stopped trying to break up the SSPX chapel as she was previously doing ( according to the co-ordinator and another faithful) because there is now the spy to contend with.

What will I do? No idea at present.

Just curious! Why did you attend a Mass with a camera anyway, was your child or someone special receiving their First Holy Communion or something of that nature?

That is the only time I ever see anyone with a camera at the Mount. Father allows for a special celebration. I know we have spys too at the Mount but not sure who they are, someone reported that we were anti semetic once because the Bishop told us to pray for the Jєωs or something like that awhile ago. That is how we got on that Southern Poverty hate list of which no one pays attention to anymore; reported by a spy. lol!

TheRealMcCoy · « **Reply #13 on:** June 28, 2016, 03:04:48 PM »

Quote from: Guardian Angel

You shouldn't be attending SSPX Masses even now. A man who plans to commit adultery is guilty of adultery even though he hasn't engaged in the act yet. The SSPX is already guilty of spiritual adultery with Modernist Rome.

Marlelar · « **Reply #14 on:** June 28, 2016, 03:33:36 PM »

I pray that the recent uptick in the bizarre behavior of "Pope" Francis will stymie a reunification with Rome, but if the SSPX does roll over I will go to a CMRI chapel. For the time being I will continue with the SSPX because their ordinations are valid.

I would call myself a "practical" sedevacantist, not a dogmatic sedevacantist. Given my limited human understanding of the ways of God I cannot say, for a fact, that post-conciliar "popes" are absolutely NOT valid, but I don't believe they are valid Popes based on their conduct and I live my life as if the chair is vacant.

At some future time should all doubt about their validity be removed I will stand corrected.