Author Topic: What the SSPX can expect (Read 3116 times)

Sigismund · « **on:** May 17, 2012, 09:23:50 PM »

http://www.catholicnews.com/data/stories/cns/1202023.htm

I don't really have a problem with the cardinal's comments, but I expect every other poster here will. Like it or not, this is what the SSPX will be expected to accept and joyously celebrate after a concordat is reached. I can't imagine any of the other three bishops doing that. If they do, believing what they clearly believe, they are hypocrites,

Wessex · « **Reply #1 on:** May 18, 2012, 05:56:55 AM »

The Society will have to immerse itself in 'h0Ɩ0cαųst' theology as a matter of priority ...... a new baptism .... and as we know Bp. Fellay has already led the way. And in future trads will be expected to regard the Jєωs as a special case exempt from any Christian consideration save that of undisputed elevation.

Telesphorus · « **Reply #2 on:** May 18, 2012, 06:33:13 AM »

Whether they officially acknowledge it or not, the question of the Jєωιѕн war on Christianity will be verboten.

What do you want to bet talk about the pernicious influence of the media, of the coeducational public schools, etc, will also be toned down?

The cultists want a more worldly SSPX with a high ranking, "officially" authorized leader Bishop Fellay, who has a "reputable" public image.

And if that means selling out, they can rationalize the sellout away, the same way they rationalize things like drunkenness, divorce, etc.

wallflower · « **Reply #3 on:** May 18, 2012, 06:43:36 AM »

We've known it for a long time based on how Bishop Williamson was treated but I still cannot wrap my head around the h0Ɩ0cαųst being treated as Catholic dogma.

That's what's so frustrating about those trads who think he is unwise to speak of anything but Faith and Morals. They are completely missing the big picture. So he questions how many were killed. Does the exact number have THAT much bearing on the salvation of souls that it is now a criteria for being Catholic?

Would that they put this much energy into educating the 75% of NO who don't believe in the True Presence in the Eucharist!

Telesphorus · « **Reply #4 on:** May 18, 2012, 06:52:21 AM »

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the h0Ɩ0cαųst being treated as Catholic dogma.

Unfortunately the problem goes beyond expecting people to adhere to the conventional narrative of the h0Ɩ0cαųst. The h0Ɩ0cαųst is given metaphysical and religious significance - in opposition to Christianity.

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That's what's so frustrating about those trads who think he is unwise to speak of anything but Faith and Morals. They are completely missing the big picture. So he questions how many were killed. Does the exact number have THAT much bearing on the salvation of souls that it is now a criteria for being Catholic?

It doesn't have to do with how many people died. It has to do with the idea that it was a sacred event that must not be questioned, lest you suffer social and even spiritual penalties for not kowtowing to the Jєωιѕн narrative of history.

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Would that they put this much energy into educating the 75% of NO who don't believe in the True Presence in the Eucharist!

The Jєωs have practically demanded that the Gospel be amended or reinterpreted - any Trad who submits to that destroys all credibility on other matters of Faith.

Telesphorus · « **Reply #5 on:** May 18, 2012, 06:56:10 AM »

http://archive.org/details/JudaismAndTheVatican

http://www.fisheaters.com/Jєωsvaticanii.html

Maurice Pinay blog is great for this.

Wessex · « **Reply #6 on:** May 18, 2012, 07:28:12 AM »

Yes, we are talking about something more than the new Society paying homage to those who would help or hinder it from getting on in the world. The creation of a new religion whose focus will be the sanctity of new world dogma set within a fabricated historical context is a long-term aim of conciliar theorists. The setting aside of Catholic doctrine by both Rome and Menzingen is the start to this process. Next will come the exclusion of anyone opposed to this new faith, followed by persecution and collusion with secular authorities to exact penalities. The Society has come a long way in such a short time!

JPaul · « **Reply #7 on:** May 18, 2012, 07:45:16 AM »

Quote from: Wessex

Yes, we are talking about something more than the new Society paying homage to those who would help or hinder it from getting on in the world. The creation of a new religion whose focus will be the sanctity of new world dogma set within a fabricated historical context is a long-term aim of conciliar theorists. The setting aside of Catholic doctrine by both Rome and Menzingen is the start to this process. Next will come the exclusion of anyone opposed to this new faith, followed by persecution and collusion with secular authorities to exact penalities. The Society has come a long way in such a short time!

"Again the devil took him up into a very high mountain, and shewed him all the kingdoms of the world, and the glory of them, And said to him: All these will I give thee, if falling down thou wilt adore me. "

"Upon a high and lofty mountain thou hast laid thy bed, and hast gone up thither to offer victims."

Capt McQuigg · « **Reply #8 on:** May 18, 2012, 02:31:53 PM »

Why is currying favor with the Jєωs so important to some people?

JPaul · « **Reply #9 on:** May 18, 2012, 03:14:30 PM »

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Why is currying favor with the Jєωs so important to some people?

It is mostly important to the Jєωs, and they have great powers of coercion, indoctrination, intimidation, and punishment both inside and outside of the Church. Hence, so many others feel the need to worship at their altars.

As illustrated in my last entry, there is one other who was obsessed with having the Good bow down to him alone.

Capt McQuigg · « **Reply #10 on:** May 18, 2012, 03:35:36 PM »

The Jєωιѕн people have a visceral, intense hatred of the Catholic Church, much more so than the general disdain and contempt they have for the non-Jєωιѕн peoples of the world.

I just want to know, or at least wonder, what is to be gained by curring favors with the Jєωs? Who among the conciliarists are benefitting personally from this?

Our position toward the Jєωs and the h0Ɩ0cαųst is precisely this (or should be):

"70 million people died during WWII, some were Jєωs."

The Jєωs are perfectly okay in seeing themselves as the center of the universe but that is their own private fixation and that view should be shunned and ignored by the Catholic Church.

Emerentiana · « **Reply #11 on:** May 18, 2012, 04:40:18 PM »

Quote from: Wessex

Yes, we are talking about something more than the new Society paying homage to those who would help or hinder it from getting on in the world. The creation of a new religion whose focus will be the sanctity of new world dogma set within a fabricated historical context is a long-term aim of conciliar theorists. The setting aside of Catholic doctrine by both Rome and Menzingen is the start to this process. Next will come the exclusion of anyone opposed to this new faith, followed by persecution and collusion with secular authorities to exact penalities. The Society has come a long way in such a short time!

Yes, thats exactly right Wessex!!
! Those of us in any of the trad groups wil be marginalized. We will be eventually branded "terrorists" and imprisoned. Are you all ready for that?
Like I tld one of my young SSPX friends who was put under "obedience" not to attend CMRI masses (even tho the priest believed they were valid)
"If you cant made strong and right decisions on small matters, what will you do when they come with guns for your family?"