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Offline Harry Peterson

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What right Do you have at an SSPX Chapel?
« on: June 26, 2013, 09:58:26 PM »
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    • You are a guest at an SSPX Chapel.

    Since when does a guest have a 'right' to question the host.

    As a religious mission order, the SSPX has no obligation to be in your city.  They could leave tomorrow without telling anybody.

    The diocesan clergy are required to provide locals the sacraments to the faithful, not the SSPX.

    As Father Rutledge said:  Just please leave.  If you don't want to follow the SSPX, please leave (or something close to that).




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    Offline ServusSpiritusSancti

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    What right Do you have at an SSPX Chapel?
    « Reply #1 on: June 26, 2013, 10:00:37 PM »
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    • Looks like someone has caught Menzingenitits.
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    Offline Mithrandylan

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    What right Do you have at an SSPX Chapel?
    « Reply #2 on: June 26, 2013, 10:03:18 PM »
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    • And as a mission (without jurisdiction) it has no right to ask anyone to leave, much less to refuse sacraments and use scare tactics to weed out those that don't fit their new image.

    But, lest we entertain a strawman, you're completely stepping around the issue.  Appealing to the benevolence of a mission to excuse it's leftward and modernist slide.  
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    What right Do you have at an SSPX Chapel?
    « Reply #3 on: June 26, 2013, 10:04:53 PM »
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    • ++Marcel Lefebvre was charitable, Harry.  The salvation of souls was his top priority.  

     :incense:
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    Offline Harry Peterson

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    What right Do you have at an SSPX Chapel?
    « Reply #4 on: June 26, 2013, 10:11:49 PM »
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    • Quote from: Mithrandylan
    And as a mission (without jurisdiction) it has no right to ask anyone to leave, much less to refuse sacraments and use scare tactics to weed out those that don't fit their new image.

    But, lest we entertain a strawman, you're completely stepping around the issue.  Appealing to the benevolence of a mission to excuse it's leftward and modernist slide.  


    What is up with you people and the strawman arguments.  Just say what you have to say.     How many people do you know personally  have been told not to come to SSPX services?  

    If you don't like it's modernist stance, go somewhere else.

    The clergy of the SSPX are far more forgiving than the laity who want you to leave.
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    What right Do you have at an SSPX Chapel?
    « Reply #5 on: June 26, 2013, 10:17:56 PM »
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    • Quote from: Harry Peterson
    If you don't like it's modernist stance, go somewhere else.



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    Offline Mithrandylan

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    What right Do you have at an SSPX Chapel?
    « Reply #6 on: June 26, 2013, 10:20:31 PM »
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    And as a mission (without jurisdiction) it has no right to ask anyone to leave, much less to refuse sacraments and use scare tactics to weed out those that don't fit their new image.

    But, lest we entertain a strawman, you're completely stepping around the issue.  Appealing to the benevolence of a mission to excuse it's leftward and modernist slide.  


    What is up with you people and the strawman arguments.  Just say what you have to say.     How many people do you know personally  have been told not to come to SSPX services?  

    If you don't like it's modernist stance, go somewhere else.

    The clergy of the SSPX are far more forgiving than the laity who want you to leave.


    Listen to your masters and get off the internet.
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    What right Do you have at an SSPX Chapel?
    « Reply #7 on: June 26, 2013, 10:36:37 PM »
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    • SSPX chapels belong to God, not to cult leaders.

    Under Canon Law, Catholics have rights.  Rights to the sacraments.

    And none of those rights depend on agreeing with Bishop Fellay, who has no Canon Law authority over those who go to "his" chapels.

    Tough luck, cultist!
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    What right Do you have at an SSPX Chapel?
    « Reply #8 on: June 26, 2013, 10:37:36 PM »
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    • Quote from: Harry Peterson
    You are a guest at an SSPX Chapel.

    Since when does a guest have a 'right' to question the host.

    As a religious mission order, the SSPX has no obligation to be in your city.  They could leave tomorrow without telling anybody.

    The diocesan clergy are required to provide locals the sacraments to the faithful, not the SSPX.

    As Father Rutledge said:  Just please leave.  If you don't want to follow the SSPX, please leave (or something close to that).






    Don't even try answering this question, Harry's already a mile down the block and to scared to turn around.  As a guest Harry do you claim to be a SSPX member? If not Shut up you are an embarrassment to the legacy that the Archbishop left us.
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    What right Do you have at an SSPX Chapel?
    « Reply #9 on: June 26, 2013, 10:44:23 PM »
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    • Quote from: Harry Peterson
    Just say what you have to say.


    Hey, no problem!

    You're clueless.

    Thanks for the invite!
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    Offline Harry Peterson

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    What right Do you have at an SSPX Chapel?
    « Reply #10 on: June 26, 2013, 10:44:59 PM »
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    • Mithrandylan,

    You sound like Darth Vader.

    Of course you would allow somebody like Telesphorus complete  

    immunity for anything he might say.  In my opinion, he is the worst of the

    worst.
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    What right Do you have at an SSPX Chapel?
    « Reply #11 on: June 26, 2013, 10:47:21 PM »
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    • But the SSPX has a right to the layfolks money, yuh?
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    Offline Harry Peterson

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    What right Do you have at an SSPX Chapel?
    « Reply #12 on: June 26, 2013, 10:55:04 PM »
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    • How incredibly crass can that be.  When you give material in charity.  Please keep it that way.
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    Offline Incredulous

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    What right Do you have at an SSPX Chapel?
    « Reply #13 on: June 26, 2013, 11:06:04 PM »
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    • Quote from: Harry Peterson
    You are a guest at an SSPX Chapel.

    Since when does a guest have a 'right' to question the host.

    As a religious mission order, the SSPX has no obligation to be in your city.  They could leave tomorrow without telling anybody.

    The diocesan clergy are required to provide locals the sacraments to the faithful, not the SSPX.

    As Father Rutledge said:  Just please leave.  If you don't want to follow the SSPX, please leave (or something close to that).



    Harry, you're coming off like another one of Father Rostand's wind-up
    robots





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    What right Do you have at an SSPX Chapel?
    « Reply #14 on: June 26, 2013, 11:06:25 PM »
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    • Harry,

    My local SSPX chapter does not want resistors to leave.  On the contrary, the pastor has in his employ TWO known resistors and he encourages resistors to continue to attend Mass at his chapel.  Unlike you, he understands that a priest has no right to deny sacraments for any reason except public mortal sin.

    Admit it Harry, you're on the losing side.  Now go back to your momma's basement and watch Game of Thrones.
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