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WHAT? NO RESISTANCE?
« on: June 30, 2013, 01:29:40 AM »
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    WHAT? NO RESISTANCE?
    « Reply #1 on: June 30, 2013, 03:08:41 AM »
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    Father Ortiz speaks


    Excellent article!  Thank you.

    Here it is below:

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            WHAT? NO RESISTANCE? BY FATHER ORTIZ

       A healthy body reacts with a vigorous immune system by resisting viruses, harmful bacteria and diseases that attack it. So, by way of comparison, when the leadership of the Society of St. Pius X officially embraced Liberal ideas most harmful to the Faith and publicized them, rather than react by crying "Resistance to what?", it should rather be, "WHAT? NO RESISTANCE?" Truthfully, there should have been a healthy, unanimous wave of resistance from the very beginning, to that which threatens the very foundations of the Traditional Roman Catholic Faith!

      Faced with the manifest ignoring of the wisdom, warnings, and prudence of Abp. Lefebvre never to pursue a purely practical agreement without Rome's conversion to Tradition FIRST, expressed by the shift of principles in July 14, 2012's General Chapter Statement, "WHAT? NO RESISTANCE?"

      Faced with the 6 Conditions, which the SSPX "bound itself to," the first one asking for, what amounts to, the freedom to set up one of our own altars in the Pantheon of All Beliefs so aggressively promoted by the Conciliar Church, when Abp. Lefebvre always refused such a false communion, demanding the Pope's and Rome's conversion to the Faith of Tradition, "WHAT? NO RESISTANCE?"

      Faced with the willingness to be put under the local Modernist bishops in the second desirable Condition, "WHAT? NO RESISTANCE?"

      Faced with the leaders of the SSPX's Liberal statements on the Council, the errors of Vatican II, on Religious Liberty, on the New Mass being legitimately promulgated, on accepting the New Code and the New Profession of Faith, on accepting Vatican II as "enlightening" and "deepening" Catholic Tradition (1), "WHAT? NO RESISTANCE?"

      Faced with none of these statements, declarations and affirmations having been publicly rejected, corrected or refuted in a clear, precise manner by the culprits themselves, to all the priests and faithful of the world, scandalized by these compromises threatening the only Revealed Truth, "WHAT? NO RESISTANCE?"

      Faced with the Society's leaders unjustly silencing, expelling, threatening bishops, priests, Carmelite nuns and faithful, even to the point of refusing Holy Communion and expelling children from their schools and threatening the same in the future for any who openly oppose the new direction of compromise and false agreements, "WHAT? NO RESISTANCE?"

       Faced with the leadership's ever growing silence about Modernist Rome's ongoing destruction of the Faith, Spirit of Assisi, Pope Francis' scandals against the Faith as well as the Modernist bishops throughout the world, "WHAT? NO RESISTANCE?"

      Faced with the rising "friendly fire" towards the priests, monks and nuns of the Resistance (who merely repeat the Founder's warnings) as the "greatest evil" and ignoring the real danger and enemy to Christ the King and His Holy Religion, namely, Modernist /Conciliar Rome of 2013, "WHAT? NO RESISTANCE?"

      Faced with the 6 Conditions, not one of which demands a doctrinal agreement, proving that Menzingen is ever determined to seeking a "practical agreement" (as if real unity can ever be possible without unity in the Catholic Truth), "WHAT? NO RESISTANCE?"

      Faced with the affirmations that the Declarations of Vatican II "On Religious Liberty" and "On Relations of the Church With Non-Catholic Religions"(already condemned by previous Popes), are RECONCILABLE, albeit "with difficulty," with the prior Magisterium (Doctrinal Declaration, III, 5), by Society leaders, "WHAT? NO RESISTANCE?"

      Faced with over 500 priests trained to combat Modernism and identify its tactics (such as ambiguous language) and confronted with this in the very docuмents sent from Menzingen, officially swallowing the Modernist poison, even before a written “canonical normalization” or “agreement” has been signed; faced with the overwhelming silence, “WHAT? NO RESISTANCE?”

      When the Faith is compromised or EVEN IN DANGER (cf. Doctrinal -- not "Prudential"-- Declaration, April 15, 2012), St. Thomas Aquinas affirms (2) that inferiors have the duty to publicly correct their superiors, respectfully, but clearly, Bp. de Castro Meyer made it the point of his short sermon at the Episcopal Consecrations, 25 years ago. Abp. Lefebvre did not fear to continually correct the Vatican II Popes, numerous Cardinals and clergy. Was he not labeled "schismatic", "rebellious", "dissident", "sedevacantist", "liberal" (for confronting superiors), "disobedient", "imprudent", etc., etc.? Did he not form a Resistance to the Conciliar Church and its Reforms?

      Truly admirable was his organization of the Priestly Society of St. Pius X to continue the True Doctrine, Mass, Catechism, and Sacraments. This was, to draw from the example of Sacred Scripture, building with the trowel in one hand.

      But he also combatted the modern errors, the scandals of the then, reigning popes, and the destruction of countless souls through the errors and spirit promoted by the Conciliar Church. This was wielding the sword. Yes, the trowel in one hand, to build, the sword in the other, to fight! Fight he did indeed, till his last breath!

      The new direction of the SSPX (admitted by Bp. Fellay's "new attitude towards Rome," the new non-critical approach of the newly branded websites, "Rome is changing" (3) and put into practice by the General Chapter Statement, 6 Conditions and the Doctrinal Declaration of April 15, 2012) has laid down the sword of combat ("... We must abandon the bulldozer approach") and focus on the "positive side" of solely building with the trowel.

      But while the onslaughts of the enemies of the Faith are ever advancing and the Conciliar Reign of Terror heightens, there is nothing the Freemasons would agree with more, than to quit publicly exposing the real enemies to the Faith in today's Modernist Rome, and grow more agreeably silent on their errors, scandals and betrayals to Our Lord Jesus Christ. "Polemics" rains on the Conciliar parade.

      This brings us to "Why the Resistance?"..."Resistance to what?" It is because OUR LORD JESUS CHRIST IS GOD, KING, AND THE ETERNAL HIGH PRIEST! He is the One betrayed, denied, mocked, and uncrowned by Vatican II and its adherents. To make the slightest compromise, even in the name of "practical prudence" with Vatican II, its illegitimate ("bâtarde") Mass and Reforms is to humiliate and betray Our Lord Jesus Christ! "...By their fruits you will know them" (St. Mt. VII 20).

      So, "Resistance to what?" needs to be re-examined in the Light of the Faith and then, when one honestly reads the General Chapter Statement and 6 Conditions, the April 15th Doctrinal Declaration, the May 11, 2012 Interviews on CNS, the DICI Interviews of June 7, 2012, along with the continual double-speak and contradictions which still continue, then what honest Catholic cannot but ask, "WHAT? NO RESISTANCE TO ALL THIS?  What must we do?"

      Referring back to the example of a healthy body, only an emergency surgery can, short of a miracle, revive the SSPX from the mortal wound of the compromise committed last Summer. The steps taken depart from the mission and purpose of the Society's Founder in an official capacity. Miracles? That is Our Lady's "forte" and She knows how to invoke them! She has the mission to revive the Church and can save the SSPX we love and hold dear. But while praying and sacrificing, what else can we do?

    "...I am not a pessimist. The Holy Virgin will have the victory. She will triumph over the great Apostasy, the fruit of Liberalism. One more reason not to twiddle our thumbs! We have to fight more than ever for the Social Reign of Our Lord Jesus Christ! In this battle, we are not alone: we have with us all the Popes up through Pius XII inclusively. All of them combatted Liberalism in order to deliver the Church from it. God did not grant that they succeed, but this is no reason to lay down our weapons!

    "We have to build, while the others are demolishing. The crumbled citadels have to be rebuilt, the bastions of the Faith to be reconstructed: firstly the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass of All Times, which forms saints; then our chapels, which are our true parishes; our monasteries; our large families; our enterprises faithful to the social doctrine of the Church; our politicians determined to make the politics of Jesus Christ--this is a whole tissue of Christian social life, Christian customs, Christian reflexes, which we have to restore, on the scale that God wants, at the time God wills. All that I know, the Faith teaches us; it is that Our Lord Jesus Christ must reign here below, now, and not only at the end of the world, as the Liberals would have it!" (4).
         
       "Let us, therefore, fight on, with the trowel in one hand  and  the sword in the other!"

       "Of them that built on the wall and that carried burdens, and that laded: with one of his hands he did the work, and with the other he held a sword!" (II Esdras IV 17)

    REFERENCES

    (1) See: DICI Interview with Bp. Fellay On Relations With Rome, June 7, 2012, CNS Interview  May 11, 2012 in Menzingen and Doctrinal Declaration of April 15, 2012.

    (2) St. Thomas Aquinas [IIa IIae Q. 33 a. 4 ad 2um]: "It must be observed, however, that if the faith were endangered, a subject ought to rebuke his prelate even publicly. Hence Paul, who was Peter's subject, rebuked him in public, on account of the imminent danger of scandal concerning faith, and, as the gloss of Augustine says on Galatians 2:11, Peter gave an example to superiors, that if at any time they should happen to stray from the straight path, they should not disdain to be reproved by their subjects."

    (3) Letter of Bp. Fellay and Assistants to three Bishops, April 14, 2012, "We have observed a change of attitude in the Church...Vatican II...is no longer in people's heads. Fewer and fewer believe it." Interviews of June 7, 2012, DICI:  "The attitude of the official Church has changed, not me."

    (4) They Have Uncrowned Him, by Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre, Chapter 34.


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    WHAT? NO RESISTANCE?
    « Reply #2 on: June 30, 2013, 08:25:11 AM »
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    This is very good.

    However:  I have two problems with it:


    ~ 1 ~   There is no date on it.  
    And this is time sensitive material.


    Why do I say it's "time sensitive?"  Well, here's why..............


    ~ 2 ~  It's already obsolete,
    ..inasmuch as it's missing at least another paragraph or two, that is,
    two (or more!) that would go something like this:



      Faced with the damage-control tactics of the perpetrators themselves,
    tactics that are comprised of statements like Fr. Morgan's announcement
    that there will be an announcement that +Fellay has "renounced" his
    Doctrinal Declaration of April 2012 (the AFD), even while we all know that
    +Fellay is utterly impervious to any possibility of his abjuring his errors, of
    specifically identifying WHAT IT IS about his AFD that he abjures, item by
    item, our proper reaction should be, "What?  No Resistance?!"


      Faced with a 180-degree turnaround 'Declaration' from "The Three" from
    Menzingen (HEBF*, +TdM, +AdG), that on the surface seems to be okay
    and would give traditionalists a pause for relief and perhaps even some
    hope for improvement, yet, upon closer examination in #11 is found that
    the barn door is left unlatched and the horse will in FACT be able to
    escape at some point in the future, our proper response should be,
    "What?  No Resistance?!"









    *His Eagerness B. Fellay
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    WHAT? NO RESISTANCE?
    « Reply #3 on: June 30, 2013, 09:25:22 AM »
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  • Quote from: Neil Obstat
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    This is very good.

    However:  I have two problems with it:


    ~ 1 ~   There is no date on it.  
    And this is time sensitive material.


    Why do I say it's "time sensitive?"  Well, here's why..............


    ~ 2 ~  It's already obsolete,
    ..inasmuch as it's missing at least another paragraph or two, that is,
    two (or more!) that would go something like this:



      Faced with the damage-control tactics of the perpetrators themselves,
    tactics that are comprised of statements like Fr. Morgan's announcement
    that there will be an announcement that +Fellay has "renounced" his
    Doctrinal Declaration of April 2012 (the AFD), even while we all know that
    +Fellay is utterly impervious to any possibility of his abjuring his errors, of
    specifically identifying WHAT IT IS about his AFD that he abjures, item by
    item, our proper reaction should be, "What?  No Resistance?!"


      Faced with a 180-degree turnaround 'Declaration' from "The Three" from
    Menzingen (HEBF*, +TdM, +AdG), that on the surface seems to be okay
    and would give traditionalists a pause for relief and perhaps even some
    hope for improvement, yet, upon closer examination in #11 is found that
    the barn door is left unlatched and the horse will in FACT be able to
    escape at some point in the future, our proper response should be,
    "What?  No Resistance?!"









    *His Eagerness B. Fellay


    Thank you. It was pretty late at night when that was posted. I gather Father Ortiz would want June 29 as the date.

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    « Reply #4 on: June 30, 2013, 09:48:48 AM »
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    Maybe you should ask him if he wants to update it, because
    the 'Declaration' of 'the 3' is from June 27th, and he makes
    no mention of it.  

    If it's looking this consequential today, it's going to look even
    MORE consequential in hindsight.  If left as it is, the date
    ought to be June 26th, so as to not appear BLIND to the
    conspicuous development of June 27th (Decl. of the 3).



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    « Reply #5 on: June 30, 2013, 08:15:58 PM »
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  • I have been informed that Father Hewko is the author. Father Ortiz was asked to mail it to "someone whose name this forum deletes" at the author's request.

    http://www.ecclesiamilitans.com/2013/06/30/what-no-resistance-by-father-ortiz/#comment-1917


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    « Reply #6 on: July 01, 2013, 10:24:34 AM »
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  • Quote from: BrJoseph
    I have been informed that Father Hewko is the author. Father Ortiz was asked to mail it to "someone whose name this forum deletes" at the author's request.

    http://www.ecclesiamilitans.com/2013/06/30/what-no-resistance-by-father-ortiz/#comment-1917




    I'm confused.  The author requested that his name be deleted
    when the material is posted and so that's why it's being posted
    without deleting the author's name -- and this is worth
    talking about?


    Mamma mia!


    I have an idea....... the next time the author wants to keep his
    name deleted, he ought to submit his material to TheRecusant
    and thenceforth rest assured his request shalt be honored to the hilt.  





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    « Reply #7 on: July 01, 2013, 10:33:29 AM »
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  • Sorry, I thought I was clear. Father Hewko asked Father Ortiz to email the docuмent to a gentleman who posts a lot of Resistance Videos on Youtube.  The gentleman has been banned from CI and all references to him or his site are deleted.

    The original poster, late at night, assumed that the docuмent was written by Father Ortiz since it came to him from Father Ortiz's email.



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    « Reply #8 on: July 01, 2013, 10:41:06 AM »
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    It has come to my attention that there is an essential
    difference between the Menzingen-denizens and the
    Resistance.  

    The former have loads of time on their hands to run
    around dreaming up schemes and how to present all
    this nonsense.  

    The Resistance, on the contrary, is comprised of very
    busy priests who are all caught up providing the
    sacraments to the Faithful, hearing confessions,
    traveling to far-away places, organizing Pontifical
    Masses which are "the Church on all 4 engines" that
    would become "more perfect with practice," and, it is
    comprised of laymen who have in the main much more
    to do with the minutes of their day than they have
    minutes in their day, with families, jobs, chores, farms,
    properties, duties, and friends.

    That is to say, the deck is stacked.  

    Likewise, The Great One has stacked the deck of the
    Capitulants, which are positions that have been filled
    by The Great One's hand-picked cronies without merit.


    Therefore,

    The ExSPX is the STACKED DECK SOCIETY.



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